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Old 07-01-2005, 08:51 PM   #1
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Question I'm a parent, still having problems with own parents

My problem is not with my own children, its with my own mom...and Her parenting skills. Sounds crazy, but at 26 I am still having issues with my mom!I hope someone can give me some good advice on this topic. I am torn. have 3 siblings.All of us have major mom issues.When I was 12 my parents got divorced and while separated mom began dating a man who later began beating her and called myself and younger sister nasty names and stole from us.She is no longer with this man, But mom has never Ever been truly sorry for putting my sister and I through this. She dismisses our feelings and says that her life growing up was far worse.( which it was, but I feel like that should be no reason to sweep our hurtful feelings under the rug) She has every excuse in the book ready for us as to why she neglected my sister and I. As far back as I can remember she shoved us away. Telling us not to bother her.To go outside and play..to leave her alone. I just had a huge argument with her as to why my two older sisters don't really want to be around her anymore. She still won't let me talk. She just starts on a tangent about her and how nobody ever listens to her and how bad she has had it. When in actuality, all we have done for the last 20 odd years IS listen to her cry Poor Me...What the hell am I supposed to do? I have a beautiful family with my husband and just want this to be solved and put into the past...how can I if she won't recognize the feelings we all have? Any help would really be a relief!
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She will not understand until she grows up. She has to realize that the poor me is not working for her. If she does not want to do this then she never will. She has very low self esteem and needs constant positive attention from others so that she can feel good about herself. She definately does not want to hear about her shortcomings from you and your sisters. She is living in the cold world of denial. I really do not think there is much you can do. She was parented horribly by her parents and does not know how to be. I guess you can just feel sorry for her, and try and forgive her for not being a great mom. You can then learn from her mistakes and not do them with your family. Her greatest gift to you can be the lesson of what not to do as a mother. I would stop trying to bring these issues up with her. Then stop seeing her or accept her for who she is right now. If she can stop being defensive, and grow up a bit then maybe there is a glimmer of hope that she will have an epiphany and try to change her ways. Otherwise, she will just always be the same. There is nothing you can say or do that will change that. I am sorry you all had to live with that abusive man. I am glad he is gone now.

 
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Re: I'm a parent, still having problems with own parents

missTee, i used to date a much older man who gave me some of the best advice i've ever gotten. he said, "you have to be your own, loving parent" and it's true. your mother was never there for you or your siblings, she may never be. that is the story that a lot of us gen Xers have, our parents were having a great 'ole time living it up in the 70's and 80s, enjoying the change in the socio-political climate, "finding themselves" or whatever. i'm a little older than you are, but the bottom line is the same, mom was unavailable, and dad wasn't around.

i was a cheerleader, sang in two choirs, was on commitees and in drama, my parents came to one event out of literally hundreds over six years. used to bug me, but now, i go to every little thing my kid does, and it doesn't bother me anymore.

thankfully my parents are (still horrible parents!) fantastic grandparents now, but that is all that i ever ask of them. entertain my kids, don't smoke any pot in the house (crazy, but there it is) or around the children and babysit once in awhile. i haven't relied on my parents for emotional or financial support in a loooong time, and i've been better off for it. my sister, on the other hand, has relied heavily on m&d, and she's a hopeless alcoholic who can't take care of her own child.

in their defense, our parents were brought up by a generation of people who were, as a generation, pitiless, racist, sexist and generally closed-minded. they didn't listen to their kids either. i'm talking about the so-called "greatest generation" and making a vast generalization, which might **** some people off, but i'm not speaking about individuals, just the general population at that time. when our grandparents were our age a divorced woman was ostracized by society, for example, and forget about falling in love with a person whose skin color didn't match your own, or having a baby out of wedlock.

so your mom's not a good mom. she needs to grow up and don't we all? she's just a person, just as you are just a person. she made mistakes with her kids, just as you and i will make mistakes with our kids, hopefully not the same ones! try to see your mom as someone to learn from with her antics, instead of reviling her for her weaknesses. forgive her for not making good decisions on behalf of her children, make a vow to yourself to do better by your kids and let her be who she is. in time she will grow, or not, but there's nothing you can do to change her. i know your disappointment well missTee, and i'm truly sorry that you had to go through such pain, but that pain gave you a strength of character, compassion and a sense of justice that might not have been as strong if you'd had an easier childhood. those experiences have shaped you and made you the person you are. love yourself, make peace with your past and move on from there. good luck missTee! and take care, ali

 
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Re: I'm a parent, still having problems with own parents

Hi there,

I'm 40 years old and I understand what you're going through.

My mother and your mother sounds like the same woman. Unavailable, distant, rejectful, emotionally unavailable to her children, etc, etc. I wish someone told me the words I'm about to tell you when I was your age. I was also hurt, confused, angry at the world, emotionally unavailable, problem with men, unaccepting, etc, etc. But please note that this is coming from a stranger who understands what you're going through and doesn't want you to be in therapy for the next 15 years trying to understand why this is and has happened to you. Please take my advice as a gift of love and to help you lessen the pain and confusion on what you're going through and to love yourself more than you do now. I might sound harsh and to the point, but if someone told me these words at your age, I'd saved a lot of money and traveled the world instead!

First, your mother will never change. Her fundamental character of unavailabilty, distant and uncaring ways to her children will never change. She will change some as she gets older.... she'll calm down, wanting to be close to you & your siblings, etc, etc... but her fundamental characteristics will never change. She will never be the mother that you want her to be... like Mrs Clever or Mrs Brady or Mrs Coleman (The O.C.) .... the caring mother who will have dinner for you at the table when you come home or milk & cookies. Or the kind of mom that you can call up and ask for advice about anything. One thing I've learned is acceptance. You need to learn to accept your life, your mother, yourself, your siblings, your boss, your cat or dog, etc, etc. Stop wanting to change your Mom and mold her to the way you want her to be. She will never be the mother you want her to be. My mother picked her men over us since I can remember. She'd always shooed us out of the house, she left me alone for several days caring for my younger siblings when I was 14 years old.... she went to Mazatlan with her boyfriend at that time and left us with Top Ramen and for a 14 year old to fend for the whole house. I've learned to accept my mother as a "provider", meaning, she'll pay the bills, kept the roof over our heads, etc, etc, but she'll never be the doting mother I wanted her to be like Mrs. Brady. My mother resented for having us and she used to yell at us telling us that "we stole her youth!" LOL Looking back, I now laugh at her for who she is... because Me just like You never asked to be born and be treated this way. Sounds like your mother is selfish & self-centered. She doesn't want to recognize that she has a problem. But remember, she's the one with the problem, not you. Stop trying to "get" her approval by wanting her to listen to you. She will never want to listen to you or whatever she has to say... unless you "teach" her of how "you" want to be treated. Love yourself more by knowing this is "her" problem and this is not you. I know you care as a matter of fact, you care too much.... but divert your loving and caring ways to the ones who deserves it... your children, your loving husband and all of the caring & loving people in your life who truly deserves it, ESPECIALLY You my dear.

Read some self-help books about acceptance. Learn to love and treat yourself better. Stop putting yourself in a situation where you can be vulnerable to her unloving ways. When she starts her tantrums or whatever, walk away until she calms down. You are an adult now and you need to "train" her how to "treat" you. When she starts the blaming game or whatever she does to hurt you, tell her calmly that You don't like being treated this way and you will return to discuss the subject when she calms down. It will take a very long time, sometimes years to train her to treat you this way, but she will start getting the message that You refuse to be treated like the way she treated you when you were little. When you do this for the first few times, it will feel foreign to you because you my dear, are going thru some changes too.... learning to teach people to treat you with love and respect.

Then find a good therapist who specializes in family dysfunctionalities. The only way to continue going forward is to face your past, don't be afraid. Start your healing by accepting yourself... all the good and the different and start treating yourself better. Love yourself more and understand yourself more by accepting you more. And one more thing, don't continue this dysfunctional behaviour to your children. Remember, you were/are the recipient of this behaviour and you know what it feels like. Instead, smother them with hugs and kisses and give them good memories....not like the ones we have to live with. But remember, the therapist is for YOU so you would stop feeling the way you felt when you posted your problem on this site. It's for you to start your healing. You will have to go through it alone, by yourself and it can be a lonely journey. But the journey is worth it for the peace of mind, the self-acceptance and the happiness I'm experiencing now.


Good luck and really work with your therapist. Then cut your ties with him or her and travel the world. You'll see that we don't have it as bad as we think.

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My problem is not with my own children, its with my own mom...and Her parenting skills. Sounds crazy, but at 26 I am still having issues with my mom!I hope someone can give me some good advice on this topic. I am torn. have 3 siblings.All of us have major mom issues.When I was 12 my parents got divorced and while separated mom began dating a man who later began beating her and called myself and younger sister nasty names and stole from us.She is no longer with this man, But mom has never Ever been truly sorry for putting my sister and I through this. She dismisses our feelings and says that her life growing up was far worse.( which it was, but I feel like that should be no reason to sweep our hurtful feelings under the rug) She has every excuse in the book ready for us as to why she neglected my sister and I. As far back as I can remember she shoved us away. Telling us not to bother her.To go outside and play..to leave her alone. I just had a huge argument with her as to why my two older sisters don't really want to be around her anymore. She still won't let me talk. She just starts on a tangent about her and how nobody ever listens to her and how bad she has had it. When in actuality, all we have done for the last 20 odd years IS listen to her cry Poor Me...What the hell am I supposed to do? I have a beautiful family with my husband and just want this to be solved and put into the past...how can I if she won't recognize the feelings we all have? Any help would really be a relief!

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Re: I'm a parent, still having problems with own parents

hallelujah sfgirl! sounds like you have your head on straight. i too could have saved myself a lot of pain and heartache if i had just been able to accept my parents for the people they are and learned to love myself, despite them, a long time ago.

 
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