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Old 02-13-2003, 09:52 PM   #1
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very sad story (read at your own risk)

Im a prescool teacher and last year was Alecs last year of preschool.He was off to big school with his 11 year old sister.He joined the preschool when he was 2 and left when he was 5. For extra money I would take him afterschool while his mom worked late and go pick up his siter and take them out to dinner. This went on for several months. I became so close to Alec, his sister Pamela and thier recently single mom Monica. They live about 20 houses from the prescool I work at and I heard there was some trouble with the police there tody. After work at 6pm I rushed over to see. It was all taped up crime scene investigaters were there, 6local news cameras, 7 sherrif cars and they wouldnt let me up to the house.Its on the local news that it was a murder suicide by carbon monoxide.???Im soo upset yet confused how in the world did this happen? sorry but i so needed to vent

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Old 02-13-2003, 10:05 PM   #2
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Re: very sad story (read at your own risk)

Please tell me the children were safe. You said murder/suicide but didn't say if it was the husband/wife or wife/kids. I'm so sorry to hear such tragic news. It's terrible how this world is sometimes.

 
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Old 02-13-2003, 10:12 PM   #3
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Oh that is so sad...

My heart goes out to you ((HUGS)).

How could someone do that to their own children? <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/frown.gif">

Was this lady depressed or anything was there any indication that this would happen???

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Old 02-13-2003, 10:31 PM   #4
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I always thought she was the strongest lady. The childrens father would call me at school and ask how they were doing because she wouldnt let him in thier lives anymore. They were a family for 10 years and then he moved form ca to boston for work for 1 year and the next thing i knew she had met someone else on- line who lived in new york and he would come visit and dad was out.i havent talked to them sincesept2002.Thanks for helping me cope!!!

 
Old 02-13-2003, 11:06 PM   #5
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That truly is sad, especially if the father was just shut out of their lives. <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/frown.gif"> It is just plain selfish.

Sorry if i get a little steamed over this too, i just feel for those kids who never got the chance at living a full life. I know that they say everyone has a destiny but lives really shouldn't be ended like that especially young ones.

I could never stop the father of my child seeing it if we weren't together no matter what i felt toward him. Unless he was extremely bad to it.



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Old 02-14-2003, 07:09 AM   #6
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I'm sorry I don't mean to make you hurt more by asking questions, but what exactly did she do? Did she leave the car running in the garage and make the kids stay in it until they all died? Or did she kill the kids a different way then kill herself by carbon monoxide?

I'm sorry, but this story just really bothered me. I don't see how someone could kill their own children.

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Old 02-14-2003, 09:31 AM   #7
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now the paper says theyre not ruling out murder suiside and theyre not ruling out accidental death! The police removed a gas heater and smelled a strange smell. They always wanted to warm..too hot for me! Tey never opened the windows ever, im a fresh air kind of girl. Feel free to ask ???? this is really helping me cope.I was very upset about the dad being shut out of thier lives to , but im beginning to suspect this was an accident. The 5 year old and the new boyfriend or husband from new york celebrated thier bdays sunday.????

 
Old 02-14-2003, 10:18 AM   #8
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Well look at Andrea Yates. They were all together "happy" one minute and then look. I pary it was accidental, but if indeed in was not and I know this sounds morbid, but who ever did it could have done it in more of a groosome (sp) way. Still it sickens me to think you felt that low that you took your kids right along with you. Maybe she felt this way and felt that if she only took herself that the Dad would get them and obviously she wanted him to be out of the picture. We don't know that the father wasn't abusive and what not either. Do you know any extended family like the Grandma or Grandpa, aunts or uncles? This has just rocked my day. I am soooooo sorry. Just like the Andrea Yates thing had me wrecked for months. I live in California and haven't heard about this. This haoppened yesterday?

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Old 02-14-2003, 11:46 AM   #9
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im sorry to have wrecked your day and yes this was in Cupertino calif yesturday. I know the mom and dads family live in India and moms mom died 2 years ago. (she said this was her moms way of allowing her to divorce dh. They were an arranged marriage but i spent alot of time with the mom and the dad, mostly the children and i realy dont think dad was abusive because she was sooooo bossy and in charge! maybe her new dh was???? Today will be a sad at the preschool because alot of the families live in the are a knew them, or they new the family from previous years. I will do my best to keep the children unaware of the sadness around them for 2-5 years old is a little to young to be burdened. They do have siblings that go to the elementary & middle school with Dear Alec & Pamela....I dont know if I should have sadness for mom Monica.

 
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Awful.
Absoulutly awful.

I found this article:

A mother and her two children were found dead at their home in Cupertino. Santa Clara County Sheriff spokesman Terrence Helm said the mother was in her 30's. Her 12-year-old daughter and six-year-old son were also found dead Thursday. Their names were not being released.

Helm said it was not clear what happened.

The woman contacted a neighbor on Monday to say that her kids were sick and didn't need a ride to school and that they would not be carpooling for the next couple of days, Helm said.

The neighbor called the sheriff's office after not being able to reach the woman for the next few days.

When authorities went to the family's house Thursday, they smelled an unknown odor and found the three bodies.

Helm said autopsies will likely be conducted Friday.


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Old 02-14-2003, 01:07 PM   #11
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I think you should go to the police and just tell of what you know about them so they can paint a broader picture. You have got to be just devastated. I am so sorry.

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Old 02-14-2003, 09:34 PM   #12
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im still upset but very relieved that it was truely an accident and not a murder suicide and damn the paper for ever mentioning it. Heaven that was todays paper and tomorrow they will release that it was an accident. I went by their house on my way to work and after. There signs taped to the fence that said "we will miss your smile pam(12year old). I went to get an x teacher and inform her of the bad news, we went back to the house together. She placed flowers and I hugged the decieced womans fiance, they were to be married in June. Lives ruined because of a HEATER!!! I also heard it was quick and painless. Thank to all of you helping me get through this, it is ver difficult.

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