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Old 06-21-2003, 11:09 AM   #1
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Hi Marksgirl,

I wrote back to you (same reply on both of the posts we've got going--"Help, should I tell him," and "Marksgirl, hope you read my reply") late last night. Again, it was a lengthy reply, so I'll keep this short.

I don't know, but I can't shake the feeling something has happened. I know you feel terribly upset right now, but if you can, please let me know if you are okay.

After all you've been through, I so hope nothing more bad has happened either to you, your friend Brooke, or that anything cruel has been said or done to you by the people involved in your current dilemma.

I sincerely hope my comments about Mark didn't upset you further, but I know his reaction was so unfortunate, and not what you wanted or needed to hear from him.

Keep in touch, and as always, best wishes...Annie

 
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Old 06-21-2003, 01:13 PM   #2
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Annie,
You are right i am still very yong and so is mark that is why i am not ready to have sex.I just turned 18 in may and he just last monday.Well he called me last night and I told him that I was very upest with him for the things that he said. He told me that I took what he siad wrong and that he only meant to say that it was part of a realationship. But he also ammited to saying if i did not give to him then he would go to another girl for his needs. Then he asked do you actually think I would do that. Then he stoped talking for a long time and he said that he was not sure about us cuz I think that he just wants me for sex. I asked him what was i supposed to believe. I started crying hystarically on the phone becuse i know that he was just trying to cover him self. He said he had to get off the phone cuz he parents were going to be calling and hung up the phone while i was crying and said goodbye.
I am mentally not fine but i should not be. I keep asking myself what is wrong with me. Why does he not see my pain and see that i love him. He has no sympathy. I hate him for what he has done. I can't believe that he would say this stuff after only dating a month. I want to break up with him so bad. But I am not sure if I can. I don't know why i would still want to be with him after all this. He just acts like i am fine when i am crying and dose not even try to console me he just wants me for some sex object. The next time I talk to him I have to break up with him I cannot take this anymore. You see I have always been told that I am ugly at school and put down. I admit I have a low self asteem and that I as well put my self down and this did not help me at all. I was just starting to feel better about my self now I just want to curl up in to my little ball and stay in my room forever, at least I am safe there.
Physically i would never hurt my self for I am so scared to die. That you do not have to worry about. I have thought about it but I could never do it my family is to nice and I love them. That is the only thing that keeps me saine. My mom always tells me I am beutiful so she helps me a lot. But I still think that I am not just becuse of everything I go thourgh out side my house. I don't understand why everyone is out to get me I would never hurt anyone or do anything to make them hate me. Even my bf hates me. It is so sad to even think about.
Thank you so much for supporting me you have really helped a lot. I am not sure about the group thing but I have talked to a consolar befor. It really did not help though. I just some how have to think good about myself which I am trying to do. I just got my CNA lisence and I am hoping that this will work out for me. Curently I work at a MCDonalds and It is okay there but the same stuff happens their. I get a lot of gys that make sexual comments to me but this has really gone to far.
The only thing that has happend that is good is getting my CNA liscence. Which turns out to be sad cuz the friend I was most excited about telling died in a fire in March i was still in nursing school then and she was very happy for me and I wanted her to be the first to know.
But I have to stop feeling this way stuff like this happens to other people. I can deal with this I just have to stop feeling sorry for my self. The only thing that is stoping me is that I have to look and Jerits eyes a lot cuz I am at his house a lot and he just looks so evil. Well I have to go to work at like five and i know it is only 3 but I am getting a ride and I don't know when they are comming. I wish i could still talk but I will def come and talk to you later.

Thanks so much Annie you truly are my gaudien Angel...
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Old 06-21-2003, 02:04 PM   #3
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i've been reading the posts, and i's sorry that u r going through this. i 2 have low self esteem, but it was worse before, there was a time i wanted to die but like u i can't cuz of the great family and friends. Also i learned to play the guitar so that also takes my mind off things.

nothing really terrible has happened to me so i didn't really hav a reason to think that way, but i did, i guess i am my own worst enemy. I've come a long way since then, i'm a more positive person, but i still have a self image issue i'm dealing with, i'm really skinny and it's drives me insane.

But hey u'll get through only if u want to. I really think u should deal with this Jerit thing.

Annie's helping u out just fine, u have her support and mine as well.

take care.

 
Old 06-21-2003, 02:38 PM   #4
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Val, (1st thing I noticed--you used a name other than Marksgirl--good for you, it might not seem big, but on a subconscious level, you've taken a step right there!)

Thanks for writing, I was so worried for you. You have every right to feel all the mixed emotions you're feeling right now. You must feel like your whole world has been turned upside down and maybe you blame yourself for your life's turn of events. You do sound depressed...depression brought on by a situation is normal, though, my gosh...look at all that's happened to you and all that you've found out about some people (that's a lot of information to digest for anyone!)

If it lasts and you find yourself thinking more about doing something harmful to yourself, perhaps a visit to the doctor, not a counselor, but a physician could help you. There you have total freedom to talk--doctor/patient confidentiality. You probably aren't eating or sleeping well, and taking a prescribed medication for depression isn't anything to be embarassed about. You say you have to stop feeling this way--please give yourself permission to experience your feelings, it's okay to, really!

Yes, we are fortunate in many ways. For example, we don't live in a war torn country nor in poverty and without basic human rights. But that doesn't mean that because someone else out there has it worse in some ways, that your feelings are any less important and that you're not entitled to feel them. It is okay to feel like you want to curl up in a ball and stay in your room. You've been thru hell for quite awhile.

After my divorce (I was married 18 yrs.), I was so depressed (and all that past sexual abuse started to arise in me, too) that I literally took to my couch for almost two years. I only did the things I had to do and sometimes I could barely do the basics--eat, shower, etc. I totally withdrew from my friends, my family and even my kids.

Eventually I came out of it, but not without the support of others who had been thru similar situations and the love of my older sister. That's why I suggested a support group, there you will meet people who are just sharing what they've been through--not a counselor trying to diagnose you--just compassionate people who have had similar experiences and can relate to you and what's happened and who won't judge you, but will listen--for free.

I do understand your confusion about why you might want to stay with Mark in spite of the unforgivable things he said. He doesn't deserve you though...and you would be putting yourself at a health risk if you stayed with him and he strays to get sex somewhere else, or blackmails you into doing something you don't want to do--your self esteem will be even lower if you do that. But Val, run--don't walk--away from Mark, he's nothing to you and you're absolutely right--he has no sympathy, love, or compassion in his soul, but you do, and try not to waste it on someone who isn't worth it .

Congratulations on getting your CNA! What a wonderful feeling you must have to have achieved that! Again, so proud of you. I am so sorry to hear about your friend and the fire...you have been through so much for someone your age. But don't let the sadness of her loss confuse the good feelings you have for your achievement. You did great.

You see yourself as ugly and undeserving of happiness right now. I see a smart, intuitive, attractive, caring, young girl who's been hurt by others and is hanging on by a thread, but you had the strength and courage to be open and honest with people about what Jerit did, and that's a brave young lady, not an ugly person. Jerit's abuse and Mark's degrading comments to you are ugly...not you.

I hear you when you say the sexual remarks happen at work, too. Unfortunately sexual harassment happens everywhere, and you've experienced it in your personal life and in the workplace. Once you see the gains you've made and are working elsewhere, I expect that in a professional setting like that, it won't happen. You will eventually come to see just how much control you really do have over your life--you've made huge leaps and bounds just in one week, I see a bright, happy future for you...and you will, too, but I won't lie, it won't happen overnight.

I'm so glad you wrote back, I just couldn't help but feel like you were in trouble in some way. I'm glad to hear your mom is so loving and caring. If you take a piece of paper and write down all the good things in your life right now (it might sound silly,) but it can not only be very therapeutic but really helpful in abling you to see the positives more than the negatives in your life right now.

Do you see your relationship with Mark as a positive? I know you don't, but I can see that if you feel bad about yourself right now, that's why you are having a hard time breaking it off--not because you love him, but because you can't imagine anyone else loving you. And if someone did, you might not feel you deserve the love of a good man. But you do, and in time it will come to you.

I am 27 years older than you, and I've had my share of bad men in my life, but I refuse to settle. I find the ability to do whatever I want, whenever I want and having no one in the background criticising me or making demands on me so freeing, and I am happier than I've ever been. Don't think I don't feel alone and lonely sometimes or that I don't get sad and cry, I do. Sometimes I feel that a lot, but the bottom line is that it is very empowering to be financially and emotionally independent.

You are young, but you are wise beyond your years! You'll get there, just be patient, don't expect too much from yourself too soon, and eventually (especially when Mark is no longer important to you) you will probably feel like a giant weight has been lifted off your shoulders. Guys like him will just bring you down--he's a loser, and he's lost you, and you will see (because you already know this) that it's for the best.

You are just starting to go up the ladder, please be strong and don't let him pull you back down. Your life is just beginning, and major props to you for holding out on having sex until YOU are ready. If you do it for the wrong reason, it might not be special for you in the future--and I don't see Mark in your future, do you?

One more thing...why do you have to be around Jerit? Did you and Brooke tell her mom? I think it would be perfectly acceptable for you to say "no, I don't want to go over to that house" the next time it comes up. If you're asked why, you can either tell them the truth (if you're ready to) or you can say you don't feel well, you have other plans, anything--but you really need to stay away from him if you can. The evil you see in his eyes is real--he is evil.

Start your list of the good things you've accomplished and the good things you know about yourself. Eventually you will see a picture of a beautiful, brave, intelligent woman, and the current picture you have of ugliness, unworthiness, and guilt will disappear.

Put your CNA on there, list your relationship w/your family, put down your bravery and your honesty, put down that you sought help via this forum and even a counselor (that's not easy to do for a lot of people), put down your friend Brooke, put down you made it through another day. You will make it through tomorrow and the next, too, be patient and kind to yourself. Do nice things for yourself, buy yourself some flowers to look at while you're curled up in your room--it's okay to curl up in a safe place!

You are always in my thoughts, and thank you for letting me be a part of your life--even it was brought about by the terrible thing that happened, I'm very glad to have met you. There is someone who loves you, you just haven't seen that person for awhile, but you will the next time you look in a mirror...

Just take it slow and get through this one day at a time. After time and years have passed, you will look back on this situation as something that made you stronger and more attractive because you were true to yourself.

Keep in touch ok? (and think about changing your user name...you're not Marksgirl anymore and if you do change it, let me know what it is so I can find you on here!

Hang in there, Annie...

 
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I am starting to get over the whole mark thing. You see even though mark has been mean I have two wonderful guy friends that have stayed on the phone with me till like 4 in the morning just so i could fall asleep. Just last night I was on the phone with one of them timm 4 in the morning. I think that i can get through this with out mark. But i know that I could not have gotten through this with out your help. I am definatly going to chnage my user name. I will defently let you know what it is. I hope that we stay in touch also it is not every day you find a stranger who will guide you throught your problems. You are the best and one good thing has happend out of all of this I made a friend (you).
I am sorry to say that I have not yet told my aunt I am just really afraid to I have been trying though. You see I have had to tell my mom before about being sxually harrased and it was not easy I have been phsically harrased in the past by two other guys that she nows about and that have been punished for it. But I also saw the look in her eyes and I did not like that. Jerit nows how upset i am with him and he know that brooke knows. He thought that i would not tell anyone but I did and now he is like I won't do it again. Brooke and I have talked about telling her mom we just have not done it yet. I just won't put my self in the same room as him alone.
I have to back to his house because that is were brooke lives and I lover her so much He is not going to ruin my time with her by keeping me out of the house. He is leaving for the military soon and then i won't have to see him anymore. I cannot watie till he leaves. That is when I am most likly going to come out and saysomething. I am afraid if i do now that he will hurt me worse.
Well on a happy note somthing funny happend at work. I was changing the garbages and the one started leaking so I had to mop it up. I put up the wet floor sign and went to go collect the trays. Well i had to walk back over what I mopped but sill me i was walking talking and carying trays at the same time that I forgot that I had mopped and sliped and fell on the floor. I could not help but laughing. It was just so stupid I mean i mopped it so that was the hilght of my day.
I tried to call mark to day to tell him that we were over but he was ridding his bike and never called me back suprise suprise. I just want this to be over. Then i can get on with my life. I am not sure that I ever want to see mark again. But to give him his b-day present. He does not deserve it but I already gave it to him he just forgot it at my house.
Thanks so much for everything. You are a great person and you have helped me through one of the most hardest time in my life.
Although not everything is better i definatly can say this day has been a whole lot better.I might even get some sleep tonight. You are right I have not been eating well but I am eating . That is nothing new though. My parents are good about it though and make sure I eat at least one whole meal a day.
Today I curled up in a blaket on the couch until I had to go to work and I watched tv. That was the best thing I did all day I am probably going to go to sleep soon. I have been up really late the last couple of nights and I am hoping to get some sleep. My mom has been upset about the stuff mark has been saying to me and she is supporting me in this as well or at least she is trying mostly though she is making it worse. Okay I am just rambaling on now but I really like talking to you. Sorry this is so long
thanks so much for being there....
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