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Old 09-26-2003, 11:53 PM   #1
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Question Safe Lubricant

My wife and I are trying to get pregnant. Does anyone know of a good lubricant for intercourse that will not hinder conception. We were just wondering if anyone had any info from experience.

 
Old 09-27-2003, 10:29 AM   #2
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The one I have heard alot about is PreSeed,corny name I know but that is what is it called.
I havent used it myself but several women on the infertility board love it.


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Old 10-03-2003, 03:22 AM   #3
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Any type of silicon lube or maybe baby oil - baby oil is ok for natural sex and its longest lasting. Try a small bit as very very few women have a problem with it. Worse of all its harder to clean afterwards.

BABY OIL SHOULD NOT BE USED AT ALL FOR CONDOM USE
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Old 10-03-2003, 07:06 AM   #4
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Actually Rip the one I listed is the only known safe lube for sperm. You see most lubes are not great for those that are trying to get pregnant. Lubes in general are not a form of birth control but they also arent good for sperm because they tend to kill and hinder the sperm.
There are several articles about couples should nto use lube when trying to get pregnant because of the fact it kills and hinders the sperm. Infertility specialists also say the same thing. If you have to use lube thent he one I listed is your best bet. If not that then raw egg whites can be used.


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Old 10-04-2003, 01:00 AM   #5
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No one said anything about lubes and birth control. You lost me there.

Yes some lubes lower pregnacy - thats true. The water base ones are the best ones to use. Oil and silicon isnt as such. Spermicidals are designed to kill off the swimmers and so does other factors.

In general keep the lube to a minium but use it. If there is no lubrication at all than it lowers the chance anyway.
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Even water based ones have chemicals that arent good for sperm.
I said the birth control thing because many teens read the boards and I didnt want them getting ideas that lube could be used as a form of birth control. I tend to cover all my bases when it comes to making sure info isnt used in the wrong ways.


Actually women produce the best lube of all(unless of course tests have been done that shows there are antibodies in the natural lube). One's best bet is to try to stay away from lubes and try for natural. If not then the one already listed PreSeed is so far the one of the best marketed safe lubes for sperm. Though I have in reading up some more found two more lubes that are ok to use. One is Femglide and Slippery Stuff

Most infertility doctors(and the ones I have had to deal with) say the following. Also there are many infertility sites that also say it. I have gotten the info here from various sites. A simple search on sexual lubricants and the effects on sperm or can lubricants effect sperm brought up great info.

Most lubricants used with sexual intercourse have a toxic effect on the sperm.

In a control-based study, they analysed the effect of adding four lubricants: KY jelly, baby oil, olive oil and saliva on sperm motion in 16 samples from patients undergoing infertility investigations. Sperm samples were prepared prior to mixing with lubricants. Motility rates were determined using computer-assisted semen analysis after 5, 15 and 30 min. All lubricants except baby oil significantly decreased percentage progressive motility, progressive velocity, curvilinear velocity and lateral head displacement at 12.5% concentration. At a lower concentration of 6.25%, both olive oil and saliva still significantly reduced progressive motility parameters, while KY jelly diminished head movement parameters. Hence, even at these very low concentrations, sex lubricants impair sperm motility and thus may adversely affect fertility.
Lubricants aid in intercourse, but not in sperm travel through the cervix. Most over the counter lubricants are not "sperm friendly" -- meaning that using them is likely to kill off some sperm. In most cases, one needs to weigh the benefits against the risks . . . it may well be worth losing a few sperm to make it possible to complete intercourse

There is a great book that both your and your wife should read. Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler. It has some great info on there. Some little tricks that can help increase your wife's own natural lube and increase your chances of getting pregnant.


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Thanks Blast for the quote and I understand the information is from a reference.

In my logical thinking I find that some of the facts mentioned hard to believe.

Most lubes have natural ingredients such as Glycerine, water, vegetable gum at a set ph level usually 5.5 - this wont kill the swimmers. There are some lubes that contain Potassium Sorbate which is a type of salt and salt kills sperm - the Potassium Sorbate is usually at a very low percentage and may kill a few swimmers. When I did the sperm counts I used a salty solution to kill the swimmers before counting them.

The baby oil statement amazes me - I havent studied this myself but I find it hard to believe baby oil kills sperm - in reality oil and water dont mix so how can the 2 be mixing to kill off the swimmers. There are also various baby oils on the market. Mainly fragrance and non fragrance. Maybe they used the fragrance and the chemicals somehow killed the swimmers.

Hmm I may do a further reseach on this one
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