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Old 01-05-2005, 10:45 AM   #1
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Angry Questions about testosterone levels

I have a few questions that I would really apprieciate someone answering to the best of their abilities. I'm 21 years old and pretty healthy just for a little bit of backround.

I've been with the same girl for over 4 years now so its not a new girl or anything. First of all for the past 6 months I've had problems at keeping erections when having sex. At times I was able to perform but nothing like I used to. My erections were harder to achieve and harder to keep up. I found myself just trying to get it up and get inside of her as quickly as possible so that I wouldn't lose my erection. I've never had a problem once I was able to penetrate her with keeping it up but getting inside is often somewhat of a hardship.

In any event I went to see my doctor and he did some bloodwork to check my testosterone levels and it came back at 406 which is from what I can tell normal as it falls in the range of 241-827. my concern is that this test was taken at 9am when testosterone levels are supposed to be at their highest and even then its not very high. I'm only 21 and this is really putting a damper on life could someone let me know about my testosterone level and any other possible tests I can have done to eliminate anything physical if thats not what it is. Also I've contemplated taking tribulus in hopes of possibly boosting my testosterone alittle. any advice with this would be wonderful.

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Old 01-06-2005, 09:28 AM   #2
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

Any help would be really apprieciated. Just any advice even.

 
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

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First of all for the past 6 months I've had problems at keeping erections when having sex.
Can we assume then that you have no trouble at all when masturbating? This is important because if the trouble is only w/your gf, then it is most likely mental. Since your doc says your levels are okay, there could be outside influences distracting you from the task at hand. How's your stress level? School/work okay? How's your relationship with your gf? Could the fact that you're now worried about 'performing' be making it worse?

 
Old 01-06-2005, 09:27 PM   #4
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

when masterbating I can obtain an erection and climax but in order to keep my erection I have to continuously be rubbing. If I stop it immediately starts to go down. I believe my stress level to be ok. I do go to college but for the past month I havent' had any classes and things with my girlfriend couldn't be better except for this problem that has been going on for the past 6 months. Me being worried about performing could have something to do with it but you'd think that after I did it once or twice these worries would go away and I'd just be able to enjoy myself again. It seems like I can't make it through an entire month without this happening. When I'm with my girlfriend about half of the time if not 60% I can manage to get an erection but it goes away immediately and makes it hard to do anything. For example putting on a condom would be impossible thankfully my girlfriend is on the pill. If this helps at all and if someone has anything they would like to add please feel free and thanks in advance.

Also I've noticed over the past day that I've had a very small amount of whitish clear fluid discharge. From what I can tell looks like precum. I don't know if this could help anyone wager any guesses as to what could be wrong.

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Old 01-09-2005, 10:22 AM   #5
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

Any advice would be great.

 
Old 01-09-2005, 12:13 PM   #6
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

you could get a full physical including checking thyroid and blood glucose. Are you overweight? Do you eat right, exercise? Drink?

get T retested in 6 months. yours is kind of low for your age but everyone's different.

 
Old 01-09-2005, 02:30 PM   #7
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

At your age I would think you would be in the upper 90% of the range.

If you are in the lower half it usally indicates you are over 50 years old or need HRT.

Also did he check your estrogen E2. That will also cause the same effect, if it is high. If you are starting to grow boobs & put on lower body fat you probably have high E2.

Good luck,

 
Old 01-09-2005, 09:54 PM   #8
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

No i'm not overweight. I weigh about 155 and work out regularly. I'm looking at my results again and all it says is total testosterone 406 and then on the other side of the paper it gives the range of 241-827. My doctor told me this tested out ok but I thought that it seemed low for my age as well but then I figured I wasn't a doctor so what did I know. I also had the test done at 9 am and I thought testosterone was higher in the morning than at night. I also had the test taken on an empty stomach. Any more opinions? to answer the question about me starting to grow boobs thats a negative on that thank god.

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Old 01-10-2005, 01:32 PM   #9
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

If your Doc thought your T-Levels were low for your age, he (she) would have told you so.

Your problem is likely psychological. It happens. You need to relax and stop sweating things. The fact that you are able to maintain an erection as long as stimulation is occuring tells me that the plumbing is working down there as long as you're "into" what you're doing to the point that you aren't sweating maintaining your erection.

If you smoke, quit -- this will give you another boost. Lots of Vitamin C should also help. Do some cardiovascular exercise 3 to 5 times a week too. A healthy body is sometimes able to overcome the insecurities of the mind. Once your soldier starts popping to attention again -- you'll regain confidence.

Also, don't masterbate every single day -- this will give you a boost too.

 
Old 01-11-2005, 07:26 AM   #10
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

Most doctors know little about hormones. They say anyone anywhere in the range is OK. Each person has normal hormone levels & it varies with age. At age 21 the levels should be in the upper end of the range.

Call a few Endocrinologist & ask if they treat males with hormone problems.

If you find one take a copy of your lab results with you on the first visit.

For many guys the HRT will cause the testicles to start a shutdown process, no swimmers. You may have to be on HRT for life. Discuss this with the Endocrinologist.

Good luck

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Old 01-11-2005, 11:03 AM   #11
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Most doctors know little about hormones. They say anyone anywhere in the range is OK. Each person has normal hormone levels & it varies with age. At age 21 the levels should be in the upper end of the range.

Call a few Endocrinologist & ask if they treat males with hormone problems.

If you find one take a copy of your lab results with you on the first visit.

For many guys the HRT will cause the testicles to start a shutdown process, no swimmers. You may have to be on HRT for life. Discuss this with the Endocrinologist.

Good luck
Most Doctor's know little about hormones? I beg to differ. Any general practitioner can tell you when your levels are too low and refer you to an endocrinologist or other specialist if necessary. GP's are specifically trained how to identify when someone is experiencing something outside the norm.

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Old 01-11-2005, 07:16 PM   #12
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

Hi! You're ALL WRONG.

Panther, I've had the same problem as you from ages 19 to 23. It is NOT psychological and it will not go away by excercising or taking vitamins. It IS a hormonal problem. Your testosterone is low for your age.

I have been to many urologists, many endocrinologists, and have researched this information for years. I have been on all manners of testosterone replacement -- Androgel, Testosterone Cypionate, Testosterone Enanthate, and anciliaries like Human Chrorionic Gonadotropin, and Arimidex. Not to mention, I have used all known ED drugs that do not require penile injection like Viagra, Cialias, and Apomorphine.

Here's the bad news. There is VERY little known about HRT in young males like ourselves. All of the help I got was extremely hard to get, and many of my medications I had to pay for straight out of pocket -- thousands of dollars over the course of the past five years. So, you're pretty much screwed. Sorry!

 
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

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Hi! You're ALL WRONG.

Panther, I've had the same problem as you from ages 19 to 23. It is NOT psychological and it will not go away by excercising or taking vitamins. It IS a hormonal problem. Your testosterone is low for your age.

I have been to many urologists, many endocrinologists, and have researched this information for years. I have been on all manners of testosterone replacement -- Androgel, Testosterone Cypionate, Testosterone Enanthate, and anciliaries like Human Chrorionic Gonadotropin, and Arimidex. Not to mention, I have used all known ED drugs that do not require penile injection like Viagra, Cialias, and Apomorphine.

Here's the bad news. There is VERY little known about HRT in young males like ourselves. All of the help I got was extremely hard to get, and many of my medications I had to pay for straight out of pocket -- thousands of dollars over the course of the past five years. So, you're pretty much screwed. Sorry!
What a wonderfully encouraging post! Not. Were it only true here that everyone who posts to this forum were a medical expert! Let's recap this, he has seen a doc, and that doc has run tests, and determined that those tests are normal. If he wants a second opinion, he should go to another doctor but, as it stands, the medical opinion of his doctor is the most valid diagnosis at this point. The medical opinion of the posters on this board, fall way short of a certified doctor. Especially anyone who speaks like HRT is a disease or disorder or something. It is not -- is HRT is a therapy -- meant to correct disorder -- it is not in itself a disease. No more so than Penicillin is a disease. This board is great thing, but the advice here should never trump that of a certified medical doctor. I hope people will keep this thought in mind when making future posts that serve only to upset the original poster.

 
Old 01-13-2005, 11:16 AM   #14
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

Medical doctors are not specialists. A specialist is REQUIRED to gauge something like testosterone levels.

The ONLY thing a GP will do is tell you if you are out of the lab's range. The lab's range means nothing, as it is just a sample of men of ALL ages. I have seen some that give doctors nice age separated reference values, but obviously this kid's doctor does not have that luxury.

A testosterone level in the 300-400 range (and this comes from the medical experts I speak with) is NOT proper for a man his age. But, guess what? 90% of GP's will tell you it is!

 
Old 01-13-2005, 01:17 PM   #15
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Re: Questions about testosterone levels

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Medical doctors are not specialists. A specialist is REQUIRED to gauge something like testosterone levels.

The ONLY thing a GP will do is tell you if you are out of the lab's range. The lab's range means nothing, as it is just a sample of men of ALL ages. I have seen some that give doctors nice age separated reference values, but obviously this kid's doctor does not have that luxury.

A testosterone level in the 300-400 range (and this comes from the medical experts I speak with) is NOT proper for a man his age. But, guess what? 90% of GP's will tell you it is!
Are you a doctor and what study are you basing your assertion that 90% of GP's will tell someone this? One of a GP's primary functions is to identify when something is out of tolerance, and yes -- that includes tolerance for age -- and then make a decision to do a referral.

You are completely incorrect. A significant number of people have medical insurance, and I can tell you that most insurance companies will not simply allow you to walk in and see a specialist -- you have to get a referral from a GP. The GP is trained to a level to identify discrepancies in matters such as this and refer it to the appropriate specialist. If you were correct in your assertions, and GP's are not trained to tell when there is a problem -- then most people with hormonal problems would never get to see a specialist about it because they would never get a referral from a GP.

 
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