What?? I suppose that isn't the kind of answer i was expecting from a healthboard
Of course i've asked my doctor about it, and he said everything is OK. But, as i told you, i suffer from low sex drive and i've got problems with mantaining erections. And you know, sometimes doctors tell patients that the results are OK, but in reality they could be a little low for a man of my age (21).
So, what do you think about it? Are they OK, or a bit low?
It depends on what lab ran the tests. Ask for a copy of the lab report from your doctor... that way you can see the normal values for their testing. Also, usually the lab will take the data and spell it out for the doc and say you were low in this or high in that, etc.
It's your info, so you are TOTALLY eligible to get it.
From a women's point of view, no insults intended whatsoever!
I don't know what all that meant, but, I do know one thing, the mind does control the body in many ways.
Is there possibly any other reason besides physical that would make you not "get in the mood" so to speak? Maybe something that your mind/soul can work on/work out? Something bothering you about yourself or your partner?
I just need someone pleaseeeee someone who can tell me if the results are OK for a man of 21 years old. Please don't tell me it depends on the laboratory. Look, here are the results. I mean, for example:
5.83 mcg/L of Testosterone...is it low for me? is it OK? I don't care if my lab thinks 5.83 is OK, i just need someone who can confirm that 5.83 is " universally OK " for a 21 year old man.
And no, it's not a psychological problem. I'm sure it's a physical problem (it's too long to explain). If my blood tests are OK, i will do other kind of tests...
But, it TOTALLY depends on the lab where the test were run... Your report will give the specifics for that lab. They have different "acceptable" ranges based on their method of testing. So, I know you want answers NOW, but you are asking for something that really NO ONE can give you an accurate answer to.
...I had my serum testosterone checked this past October (today is January 13, 2006). At that time, my number was 400. My doctor said that that number was slightly below average, but still 'normal' (I am in my early forties). Your results are expressed in different units from mine, so I can't comment on your numbers. However, after I got my October results, I researched the range on the web and I found that 'T' can be anywhere from 200-800 (like the SATs used to be, LOL). The reason I had my 'T' tested is that my sex drive is, well, not what I would like it to be. No ED or anything like that, but, not a lot of desire, either. (I also take 20mg. of Celexa a day, and .125mg of Klonopin on an as-needed basis. Can't help but think that the meds have put the kibosh on things.)
aefef, I apologize for the following post that's probably going to end up lengthy, but I just want to let you know we're on the same page and that I'm with you and that we're going to find a solution. I am in the same boat as you. My memory is starting to fail me and I'm beginning to wonder honestly how long it's been since I've had 100% healthy erections. Short description about me. I'm 21, 5'9", 145 lbs. I have a horrible diet: mostly fried food. I feel this might be the problem. I had testosterone checked and my office told me over the phone that my numbers were fine. I'm going to get the physical results and compare them with yours. Obviously you want to check for diabetes, high cholesterol, and high blood pressure. I have none of those. The urologist I saw suggested that I had mental problems, or that perhaps I have the wrong impression of erections, because men don't get intimate with other men. I am nearly certain that I do have a problem, and I am nearly certain that the problem is physical, because the problem exists even when I'm by myself. The problem goes anywhere from not really getting hard at all (extreme) to just not getting completely hard. And when I do get completely hard it usually subsides right away. Like it fluxuates. Additionally, I am still experiencing this after taking Arginmax for a while and I recently also started taking a product called Alpha Male Plus. I just got a prescription for a handful of Viagra. I'm just waiting for the right time to test it out. I know this probably wasn't too informative, but I just want to let you know you aren't alone. If you can expand upon how you know it's not a mental problem, I would appreciate it. Also, how long this has been going on for you, how often you masturbate, etc.
Total T is 5.83 mcg/L. I'm used to seeing this expressed as ng/dL and I think this converts to 583 ng/dL. If so then this is a fairly reasonable value All the other values looke pretty good to me except the FSH is too low. FSH (folicle stimulating hormone) is sent by the pituitary to stimulate the testicles into making sperm. I don't think this is related to sex drive, howver your LH is also slightly on the low side and LH does stimulate the testicles into making Testoserone so that is slightly suspicious.
If you had no symptoms I would say you look pretty good on your lab results. Since you have symptoms and assuming you think they are physical and not psychological then I would suggest you test for free testosterone and SHBG(sex hormone binding globulin) which is the most important testoserone. Most testosterone is bound to other proteins including SHBG. The remaining testosterone (about 2% of it) is what really gives you your sex drive. You would like to have a free testosterone number of between 100 and 250 pg/ml (350-900 pmol/l).
Based on these numbers, your doctor is right, but I think its worth testing for the other items since you have the syptoms you have.
Also, please try to notice if you ever wake up with erections. Whether in the morning or in the middle of the night. Loss of nocturnal erections is a sign something is wrong physically. Keep in mind (and your doctor should too) that a normal T level varies from person to person. Thats why the normal range is expressed from 200 - 800 (or even 1200 I have seen). So 583 for you may be too low. You are only 20 though so you would not want to go on T replacement at such a young age unless it was your only choice. The proper treatment can be quite complicated to determine and you need to find the right doctor. But T replacement is likely to make you essentially sterile with a very low sperm count after a long period of time on it.
Well, i think i'm going to go to the urologist and get checked for Free Testosterone and SHBG.
About nocturnal erections...i think i only have them if i have to ****...but never had one because i was "horny". So, i think this means my blood flow is OK, right?
I just can't understand why i feel so tired after masturbating. I feel tired even 2 days later. And i also feel a kind of discomfort on my upper left chest. So, i thought maybe it could be Heart related. BUT i went to the cardiologist, and he made me an Echo and everything looks fine so far!
So, could the Echo have missed something?
Or maybe is something hormonal? (free testosterone...)
Also, once i broke my Coccyx, but it got healed alone. Could this be the problem?
mmm i've been thinking about it and i've been investigating quite a bit:
Heart related? They have made me Echo. test and came back OK. So it's not very problable...and ALSO, as i stated before, my blood flow seems to work OK.
Hormone related? It's more problable, but Total Test. looks fine, and Thyroid disorders too.
Coccyx? Everywhere i've looked for says Coccyx doesn't cause ED.
So, i think its something about my Nervous System. The problem i've got is that i've got low Libido, and I suffer from slow recovery from masturbation.
I have read that when you ejaculate, your body has to produce hormones in order to recover from it. Maybe my problem is that my body is SLOW at producing those hormones after masturbation. And because of this, it is also slow recovering from ejaculation.
So, maybe my brain fails -or it is slow- at telling my body to produce more hormones, and because of this, i'm always more tired after masturbation.
I got my test results from a month ago, before I started taking a supplement that reports raising testosterone up to 250%. I tried to get my results from last week but it was a big ordeal and I'll get them over the phone tomorrow. My test only says "testosterone". Big freakin help. My value is 614 ng/dL and that lab's reference range is 241-827 ng/dL. So I'm not sure what kind of testosterone this is and if my value is good. From what I found on a website, I'm GUESSING that for 18-21 year olds the low end of the normal range is like 400-something. So aefef, ours could be low? I hate to sound naive, but I think we need to go to urologists who know what they're doing. I mean, I'm sure they all do (board-certified and all) but I want to see someone who can at least find a problem, or for that matter, a cure.
Iverson, i'll have to go to the urologist, but now i think i've got an idea of why is this happening to me. Look, I know "over masturbation" doesn't exist. And also, i only masturbate 2-3 times a week. But I think that what's happening to me it's similar to what can happen to someone that masturbates too much. The problem is that i get tired by only doing it 2-3 times a week.
I think that when we ejaculate, the body has to produce hormones in order to "recover" from the ejaculation. So, the problem is that my body is SLOW at producing those hormones. So, i have to stay 1-2 weeks without masturbation in order to obtain energy.
Here you have an article about "over masturbation"
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(although i know it may be Fake, there are some interesting ideas).
Now i'm going to the urologist to get checked all kind of hormones (Test, Free Test., SHBG...) and also i'm going to the Neurologist, because i think the problem is in the Nervous System.
Also, i suffer from a lot of headaches, so maybe if the Neurologist discovers where they come from (maybe cervical...), i'll recover from my fatigue and low sex drive
Also, remember that any chronic illness/problem can cause ED and low sex drive, especially if it involves the Nervous System.
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Also check your prolactin level. Low testosterone+high prolactin =low sex+ED. I read somewhere that prolactin level is increased during ejaculation. This increased level of prolactin inhibts further sex desire and erection. May be this rise in prolactin is responsible for your tiredness after ejaculation. Just an idea.