hawk, I've been taking saw palmetto for 3 years now. I'm not sure what your asking... you only want to take it if you have an enlarged prostate. about 80% of all menget enlarged prostate after 50 years old, if it happens earlier you should see a doctor. I started taking it because I used to have to pee about 10 to 12 times a night, which really sucks. One thing you have to know up front, it's not a (sometimes) thing, you have to take it (every day)it just doesn't work other wise. also it takes about 2 weeks of taking it every day before it starts to work... and yes, it does have a " viagra effect" after a while. good luck
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