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Old 05-11-2011, 03:21 PM   #1
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Shoulder pain since the winter

Hi there

During the winter I had to shovel alot of snow (we had about 70 inches) from our driveway and because of that I must have damaged my shoulder.

I haven't been to the doctors about it as I thought it would heal and go away but the pain keeps coming and going. Lifting 2 young children (26lbs and 40lbs) doesn't help it either. Today it is really painful. Enough for me to take painkillers.

Should I go to the doctor about this? What will he do? I guess not much as it is the shoulder.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Any exercise I can do to help heal it?

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Old 05-11-2011, 03:41 PM   #2
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

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Hi there

During the winter I had to shovel alot of snow (we had about 70 inches) from our driveway and because of that I must have damaged my shoulder.

I haven't been to the doctors about it as I thought it would heal and go away but the pain keeps coming and going. Lifting 2 young children (26lbs and 40lbs) doesn't help it either. Today it is really painful. Enough for me to take painkillers.

Should I go to the doctor about this? What will he do? I guess not much as it is the shoulder.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Any exercise I can do to help heal it?

Thanks
Gisela
Two main parts of a shoulder, the capsule and the rest, the rest being muscles, tendons, bursae. If you are under 40 it should not be a frozen shoulder. If you can move the shoulder through a full range it most likely is not the capsule. So what you have left is muscle, tendon, and bursae. From your description it does not sound that any nerve is involved. See a PT, get them to diagnose and treat it.
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:47 PM   #3
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

Thank you James

I am 38 years old and I can move it just with pain. How would a PT treat it? I am off to the UK in 11 days for 10 weeks.

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Thank you James

I am 38 years old and I can move it just with pain. How would a PT treat it? I am off to the UK in 11 days for 10 weeks.

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It depends on what the PT finds. There maybe some minor restriction of movement in the shoulder joint itself or the acromioclavicular joint or between the scapula and the chest. Also you have a choice of tendons which could be damaged. The youngest age for a frozen shoulder is about 40 which is not too far away and so I would want to get that shoulder moving with an exercise program just in case. Lots of good PTs in the UK and you wont need a referral.
Hope the weather is good, it has been the warmest in many years, maybe that was just for the wedding!
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

i think you should see an ortho. you will need a prescription for the pt anyway. dont play around with the shoulder. only a dr can diagnose. good luck!

 
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i think you should see an ortho. you will need a prescription for the pt anyway. dont play around with the shoulder. only a dr can diagnose. good luck!
So when is it since only doctors can diagnose, PTs can, Chiros can, physicians assistants can, nurses in rural areas can, also osteopaths and army medical corpsmen, perhaps more.
Whistlestop will be in the UK soon and can have a PT diagnose and treat her shoulder if she wishes. Do you really think a doctor with a few weeks training in their medical education is capable of diagnosing a complex area such as a shoulder, compared to professionals who spend years of study.
It is only in America self referral is banned for PTs, they would have it but except for the orthopaedic lobby in American politics stopping them. It will change in the next few years.
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

the dr can order x rays or an mri. this is what is standard here.

 
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

Today the pain is quite intense and haven't been to the doctors yet. I wonder if it is worth it considering I leave for the UK on the 22 May. Is it worth going and can they do anything immediately if I do go (it would be the PCP first)? Shall I wait till we get to the UK and hope the pain goes away/improves?

Not sure really what to do.

Thanks for all your help.
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the dr can order x rays or an mri. this is what is standard here.
Yes you are quite right, Doctors order MRIs and xrays. In America MRIs are ordered at between 4 to 5 times the rate of a country where the MRI or xray units are not owned by doctors. You cant have a million dollar machine gathering dust. Ordinary run of the mill conditions are MRIed, xrayed and sent off to see a specialist, getting weird injections instead of getting immediate treatment and so they become chronic cases. In most westernised countries there are criteria for doing tests so overuse does not happen. The number of chronic pain cases in America is rising at an increadble rate partly because of this system
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Today the pain is quite intense and haven't been to the doctors yet. I wonder if it is worth it considering I leave for the UK on the 22 May. Is it worth going and can they do anything immediately if I do go (it would be the PCP first)? Shall I wait till we get to the UK and hope the pain goes away/improves?

Not sure really what to do.

Thanks for all your help.
Gisela
That is a decision only you can make but it must be several month now since this episode began. You are now reaching the chronic time frame and that is the last thing you need.
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

I am going to call the doctors today and go from there. Thanks for all your help.

 
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

Unfortunately only doctors appt is 11am but I have to pick up my daughter from school so it's booked for Monday!

 
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

totally agree

 
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Re: Shoulder pain since the winter

Went to the ER in the end and did X-rays. The doctor thought at first that I had a separated shoulder but looking at a previous x-ray that I had done 5 years ago+ it is normal. The doctor says I have bursitis and to take some stronger prescription Naproxyn?? Not sure of the correct spelling. To do hourly exercise and to rest it which is a bit difficult with a 5 and 2 year old but I'll try.

I have a doctors appt on Monday and the ER doctor said they might give me a cortisone shot. We will see.

Thanks for all your help.

 
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I am going to call the doctors today and go from there. Thanks for all your help.
So what did the doc say, was he able to help?
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