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Old 04-04-2012, 10:41 AM   #1
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No ball joint or rotator cup c4-c8 severe nerve damage

I have 10 screws & 2 plates my arm is screwed into my shoulder can't move it at all ran over by a hit & run drunk driver & I lose my arm & severe nerve pain nothing helps with pain I went to another specialist to see if the can build me a ball joint & rotator cup bad news since I have no deltoid muscle they can't help me anyone know someone that can help me

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Hi Screwed in-I had to go back into your post to get your story. I am so sorry for what you are going through, it is just unbeleivable the damage that can be done with an arm.

I believe my situation is different than yours. I had a violent fall smack on my right side hitting a hard floor in Nov 2009. When I fell my shoulder joint went down to my elbow making hamburger out of the tissue on the inside of my arm-painful!!

I finally had surgery in April 2011 after 24 terribly painful dislocations. To complete the scenero I had a 25th and final dislocation the night I had my surgery. In my case there was NOTHING to screw anything to. My surgen managed to screw in one spindally piece of sinew to my shoulder blade-however it did not hold. I was rushed back into surgery that same night for a 2nd go by an on-call surgeon. He had very little to work with but knew something serious had to be done. He was a smart Dr and I am so thankful he was on call and knew what might work. He was not a shoulder specialist and he packed all the blood, flesh, nerves, around the shoulder to hold it in and packed it all really tight with the idea scar tissue would heal around it eventually and that would hopefully secure it.

I was to remain in a tightly raised sling for 6 months. It sort have worked, my arm has not dropped since but it has dropped down abit & I have awful nerve damage, after a few hours use my arm and hand become paralyzed and will no longer have any strength to lift or hold anything. I take Gabapentin and alternate pain releiver's like T3's-Advil 400mgs-Aleve-Tramadol etc which I am trying to stop-but sometimes you just need something. For the past few days I have only used the Gabapentin for my fibro pain which also really adds to my arm pain as well my arm.

I have to sleep with a sling so I do not accidently raise my arm to stretch this could prove disasterous. If I lie on my back with out a cushion to hold up that sie of my back/arm I can feel it would not be wise to not have support there because it feels like it could drop out from behind. It's a mess-I have been so depressed although thankful the 2nd surgeon at least gave me some movement to get things done for a while. I have so much nerve damage from my neck to my foot. My shoulderblade also has nerve damage and constant pins & needles & the nerve damage all down my right side from the fall is especialy bad in my foot I feel like I have no toes & I can tell I have toes only because of the numb-cold feeling pain. I cannot work anymore because it is all on my right side and I am right handed-not no more!! ha. But I am not left handed at all.

I live in Canada & have finally just been approved for disability so this lifted me a lot to know I have some small income coming in. When you say c4-c8 is this disks? Because I have some lower back disk and upper neck disk damage as well but I don't know the number's. The lower back one's contribute to my foot pain and sciatica and my upper makes my head feel like it is so heavy. My posture is not good-but I try. I did go to an accupuncturist and a physio therapist who would not touch me with a ten foot pole. I also went to a chiropractor who said he could not help my injury but could possibly help the muscles around it to give me strength but I knew that would never end and cost me-my right arm & my leg-pun!!

Sorry I don't know if this helps in your situation. I will not be able to have more surgery because they are afraid it may totally paralyz and I am a high risk for infection-I am diabetic.

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Old 04-11-2012, 07:58 PM   #3
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Omg you understand the pain issue my arm might have to be amputated unless I can find a doctor who can build a ball joint & rotator this won't help with the nerve pain but it will stop the problem of everything neck spine hip knee ankle from being pulled out of their proper position I'm already feeling the left hip knee & ankle along with my left shoulder & scapula being pulled up & out very painful with all this being pulled the veins nerves & vessels are being closed & my right arm is popping out & my right hand is losing strength I could go into it more but tired must try to sleep & I'm not one that sleeps on the back but now I have to To keep left shoulder in place so much can be said lots of nerve & bone to bone pain. Thank you for listening can we email tomorrow. Thankyou

 
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ScrewedIn-I did receive your message @ 8:15 my time-sorry I was waiting until I got all my things done to email you back. This is long so I hope you can get something out of it. I do wish you luck and hopefully you can find a Dr who can do something that will reset things. I am as reset as I ever will be.

I can totally understand your nerve pain issue, I live with it everyday and I have accepted I will have it forever-The shoulder joint is composed of three bones: the clavicle (collarbone), the scapula (shoulder blade), and the humerus (upper arm bone). Your shoulders are the most movable joints in your body. They can also be unstable because the ball of the upper arm is larger than the shoulder socket that holds it. To remain in a stable or normal position, the shoulder must be anchored by muscles, tendons and ligaments. So because I have nothing to anchor my humerous sits loose and I pray it never dislocates-the pain as you know is wretching.


In my case my humerous is not situated in the socket because I do not have have muscle,tendons or ligaments-I do not have a rotator cuff to support my humerous. My fall totally blew my rotator cuff away like a bomb went off in my arm. My humerous sits about 3" down from the socket after my surgery I was fortunate to have enough blood & guts up there to create scar tissue & this is what holds it up where it is. My nerve damage is severe as well & my whole body from my neck to my toes on my right side was jolted out of alinment. With my humerous dislocating and having nothing for 2 years to support it the 25 dislocations tore everything in my upper arm & nerves to shreds. Today I was out and about & about 3:30 my arm just gets hard and I have no strength from my shoulder to my finger tips-I can't lift my arm at all or hold a coffee cup. I drop everything my arm will just get heavy and my hand lets go. When my upper arm becomes inflammed I have no range of motion. It become a heavy limp, painful-usless arm until I put ice on it or take my muscle relaxer's and NSAIDS to settle the inflammation down. I sleep with a sling worn around my waist to make sure I don't raise my arm in my sleep. I have had to sleep on my back with a pillow on my right side to prevent me rolling onto my arm, it creates intense pain when this happens.
My surgeon will not operate again because I risk losing full use of my arm and at the risk of infection because I am diabetic I could lose my arm. It is a serious and scary situation, so I do feel your pain.

I had what is called Bankart lesion is a tear on the labrum in the lower part of the shoulder joint. Also many bone spurs were remove but I have developed more but they will have to remain in there, my socket is not as it was it is full of lost bone and it clunks and creeks and creates lots of pain.

Forgot to mention my day surgery ended up being a 7 day stay because I developed an infection. My chest, up to my neck & down my arm swelled up was *** hot-I was on some serious antibiotics and was reveiwed by the "Infectious Limb" Dr and admitted to a single quarantined room. It was awful.

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I am sorry you have all those plates and screws to hold everything up. How awful getting it run over-did your arm get run over or did you get run over. Whatever it sounds terrible. It sounds like they have done all they can but do some searching to see if there is some kind of surgery that can help you & a Dr who will perform more surgery on you. If you don't mind my asking how old are you-this can make a difference in what they will do.

 
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Oh my lord you do understand my issue & pain you are much more worse than myself you have my sympathy my friends they tell me there is always someone worse off than you so life to its upmost because we could be gone tonite I don't have to sleep in a sling but I have to sleep on my back (which I'm a side sleeper) & I have to position my shoulder/arm just so because it can't move up or down or I'm in more pain than the norm the referred doctors I've been sent to won't touch me I've decided to contact the original doctor who screwed me together to see if he can use me as a practice patient write a thesis & build ball & rotator & publish me on a medical journal he hasn't replied yet but I keep on ticking & getting the word out there who knows I mean I feel as though you & I have a bond infortunately it's pain bond I wish I could speak a different way I only have the one hand & the nerves & vessels are being stretched & closing so losing finger feeling so I need a rest I hope you are feeling a little good ( but probably not) wishing you were though so I check ya out later. Peace

 
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I don't beleive I am worse off-I feel bad for you having to have all those screws & plates. I am actually glad now I only had 1 sinew for my Surgeon to screw in. I was dreading screws being put in because I was worried about arthritis-which I have developed on my shoulder joint area and my elbows, wrist and finger's-so I guess either way it was enevitable.

I was so surprised at the limitations in health care I would receive and unless you have big $$ you only get approved for the basics. I was imaginging surgical mesh that could be wrapped around to stabilize my humerous but because my humerous won't reach my shoulder joint & my shoulder joint is no longer the shap it was with all the bone spurs this can't happen. I don't know what will happen next if I begin having worse troubles or if I have a dislocation. A dislocation pushing on through all the scar tissue and nerves freaks me out!

Today I am in awful pain because I did too much yesterday, I told you my arm became heavy and paralyzed while grocery shopping? By the time I was done everything at home & went to bed my arm was so painful I had to break down and take 3 gabapentin-2 flexerill-2 aleve & still woke up feeling like my arm was beaten up.

I need to tell you I had found a "Brace" shop online that carry's a large selection of braces & slings for every type of shoulder impigment or rotator cuff accident's. I purchased a good sling not a fabric sling. Mine is adjustable to tight around the arm it also has a memory foam belt that velcros to it for sleep and total immobolty. I was determined to have use of my arm so I purchased many styles. I don't need to use them all any more most were for post-op. Included with one of the braces was a around the upper arm rubber belt/with a velcro attachment I use this alot now for daily strength. It wraps around under the scar tissue/inflammation and I "think" it supports my arm from sliding down-work's great & ease the pain. It doesn't do anything else but take the gravity from my upper arm and eases pain until I take it off and the pain is still there. Another investment was a "Tens" machine that has a selection of electrical pads that are attached with adhesive on the back & wires that plug into a battery operated unit with all different speed-intensity massage etc. It works like massage therapy. I attach these pads one to my upper arm and one to my right shoulder blade-really helps with releiving nerve pain-I sometimes have it on for an hour because of the kneading releif it offer's. I also use it across my shoulder blade; my leg and my back & have also put it on my foot for nerve pain. Replacement pads can be bought from the drug store-eventually they become gummy. have you ever heard of Voltaren Emulgel it is an antiimmflammatory (Ibuprophen) in the soothing cream and works great.

I have never had anyone other than my husband to whin to because my self-centered family don't like to hear me talk about it. You know how it is, unless it has happened to you then you have no idea the extent of pain & limitations & depression it has put into my life-so I don't have the time of day for people like that. Take care & email me back if you ned to talk about it. My "one-armed" twin-we do know what it's like.

You should try and submit all your medical supplies for your income tax and prescriptions you may get some back-I do, but I live in Canada. You didn'y tell me your age-I am 58 years old so it has done "old" person damage! hee. Do you live in Canada? I am not trying to stalk you it just helps to know what suggestions I can offer you.

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I don't beleive I am worse off-I feel bad for you having to have all those screws & plates. I am actually glad now I only had 1 sinew for my Surgeon to screw in. I was dreading screws being put in because I was worried about arthritis-which I have developed on my shoulder joint area and my elbows, wrist and finger's-so I guess either way it was enevitable.

I was so surprised at the limitations in health care I would receive and unless you have big $$ you only get approved for the basics. I was imaginging surgical mesh that could be wrapped around to stabilize my humerous but because my humerous won't reach my shoulder joint & my shoulder joint is no longer the shap it was with all the bone spurs this can't happen. I don't know what will happen next if I begin having worse troubles or if I have a dislocation. A dislocation pushing on through all the scar tissue and nerves freaks me out!

Today I am in awful pain because I did too much yesterday, I told you my arm became heavy and paralyzed while grocery shopping? By the time I was done everything at home & went to bed my arm was so painful I had to break down and take 3 gabapentin-2 flexerill-2 aleve & still woke up feeling like my arm was beaten up.

I need to tell you I had found a "Brace" shop online that carry's a large selection of braces & slings for every type of shoulder impigment or rotator cuff accident's. I purchased a good sling not a fabric sling. Mine is adjustable to tight around the arm it also has a memory foam belt that velcros to it for sleep and total immobolty. I was determined to have use of my arm so I purchased many styles. I don't need to use them all any more most were for post-op. Included with one of the braces was a around the upper arm rubber belt/with a velcro attachment I use this alot now for daily strength. It wraps around under the scar tissue/inflammation and I "think" it supports my arm from sliding down-work's great & ease the pain. It doesn't do anything else but take the gravity from my upper arm and eases pain until I take it off and the pain is still there. Another investment was a "Tens" machine that has a selection of electrical pads that are attached with adhesive on the back & wires that plug into a battery operated unit with all different speed-intensity massage etc. It works like massage therapy. I attach these pads one to my upper arm and one to my right shoulder blade-really helps with releiving nerve pain-I sometimes have it on for an hour because of the kneading releif it offer's. I also use it across my shoulder blade; my leg and my back & have also put it on my foot for nerve pain. Replacement pads can be bought from the drug store-eventually they become gummy. have you ever heard of Voltaren Emulgel it is an antiimmflammatory (Ibuprophen) in the soothing cream and works great.

I have never had anyone other than my husband to whin to because my self-centered family don't like to hear me talk about it. You know how it is, unless it has happened to you then you have no idea the extent of pain & limitations & depression it has put into my life-so I don't have the time of day for people like that. Take care & email me back if you ned to talk about it. My "one-armed" twin-we do know what it's like.

You should try and submit all your medical supplies for your income tax and prescriptions you may get some back-I do, but I live in Canada. You didn'y tell me your age-I am 58 years old so it has done "old" person damage! hee. Do you live in Canada? I am not trying to stalk you it just helps to know what suggestions I can offer you.

 
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People have no idea how heavy an arm is until it doesn't move dead weight it is that why I know if I get ball & rotator it will help with my issue I love tens unit but my should has no meat on it do it help below the shoulder blade anyway I can show you my scan & it's nice to be able to talk to someone who understands but my picture is worth a thousand omg's.
I did too much today so took a nap & I just turned the big 50 4-7 sat relaxing now don't ever feel you are a bother knowledge from others might be a help

 
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Arms are definatley heavy for sure. I don't have much at the should joint of my arm but I do put it further down and on my should blade & it really does, Maybe it's just wishful thinking but I think it helps.

How do you send a picture of your scan on here? I do not have a scan picture I was never shown what was going on in there by my surgeon/specialist-I asked at the ER on one of my visits and the Dr there showed me. I am sure one got sent for my disability but I never got a copy. When did this happen to you??

I would go online and research for Dr's who will did the proceedure you want or relief of some kind. Do you have to pay for your proceedures?

 
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My scan & X-rays were given to me after surgery - my screws & plates no muscles ball or joints

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As you can tell I am always on my computer I like researching things and I like debating our city newspaper articles-I should stay away from it because it stresses me out. ha!

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My docs gave me X-rays to give to other doctors if they can fix ball & joint & shoulder you should ask your doctor for copies of all your medical records hope you feel better todau

 
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Hi Screwed In-Haven't heard from you in a while-how are you? My arm is feeling weird today. Really heavy and it feels like it is half way down my arm. It is probably just all the scar tissue and nerves. Maybe I raised my arm in my sleep I had a restless night. I really miss having my arm going under my pillow and sleeping on my side.

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