HELP Cold Turkey or dosing down?

[Philster2003]

Boaz;

Oh I'm afraid it gets worse before it gets better. Days 2-4 are probably the worse, day 5 should be better and by 7 you should be over the worst of the physical withdrawal. It may take a few weeks to get total energy back, sleeping patterns to return to near normal and not feel like a slug but all of a sudden you will realize your better and all the pain and terrible withdrawal will reside in your mind as a reminder of how bad it is and how you will never want to back to that situation again! Use the withdrawal as a positive for relapse prevention. The mental takes a bit linger to feel right as the brain takes longer to clear itself of the hydro effects, changes and influences.

Remember, be strong, fight for your return to your wonderful old drug free life!

Were here for you!

phil

[marich101]

Phil
That's if you learn from you're mistakes which I obviously don't 'cause I keep going thru it over .....and over..... and over.....again , and each time I ask myself what the hell were you thinkin'? I come up with a master plan for the next time and I start out with......well its a new script there are plenty of them lets just enjoy a few and the rest is history.I'm back to 10/12 a day and toward the end when there are only say 3 left I say Oh what the heck it isn't enough to do anything then I swallow those and THEN I start trying to figure out a way to get to the next refill. I just don't understand myself to go thru that much misery, and I don't want to scare Boaz from cold turkey( I think thats who it was) I've done this for years at high doses and I think it gets worse as I get older. But I'm scared to talk with my DR about it 'cause I do have legitimate pain issues...........I feel like I'm caught between the old proverbial rock and the hard place. like to think of myself as reasonably intelligent ..........but with these infernal pills I'm at a loss.
Just needed to unload this I beat myself up enough over it
Thanks for listenin
Marilyn

[boaz]

Thank again everyone..last night was ROUGH! I didn't really expect it to be different than the days and I got those "jimmy legs" as Kramer would say..a jump out of your skin feeling and COULD NOT sleep...I took muscle relaxer , valium...phenegran...and they seem to take forever to take effect...what's up with that? Has my whatever that processes that quit? I am dreading the night, altho I had no trouble sleep in the day yesterday...but this is just day 2 now...I was so disappointed with last night...they finally kicked in and I got maybe 3 hrs sleep all together. Used to be if I took a muscle relaxer I'd be donked before long. I don't know why they took soooo long to kick in and knock me out?? any clues??? I'm not looking forward to the next days and nights at all..guess I will start taking the stuff to knock me out at 7pm so it will work by bedtime. Then I'll be worrying if I take too much of that stuff....arrgghhh!

oh can u get that quionine OTC? my mom used to take it for her restless legs...but quit...I'll pray she has some tucked back....I'm soo afraid of going to the doctor..they put that on your record and now a days they look at everything on you for everything...big brother stuff.............

[Philster2003]

Boaz;

I'm so sorry you're in the throws of withdrawal and it seems the drugs to help are not working so well but that’s just the way it is. The withdrawal kind of overrides the assisting drugs you’re taking. If you get the nervous legs try walking outside or if you have to walk around the house but keep moving. I would try so hard to exhaust myself with exercise so I could get some sleep or rest. It kind of works. Not sure of the strength of Valium you’re taking but the Dr. prescribed 10mg every 6 hrs and that just knocked my out big time. I wasn’t used to taking a benzo so it worked well for me. I was so leery of the benzo that I cut it off after 3 days though. I think you need a prescription for quinine. Just hang in there, you have a couple days invested now and its going to start to get better. Don’t give in now! And don’t psych yourself out with the dreaded withdrawals. If your into day 2 its not going to be much worse, it will just hang at this threshold for a few days (3 &4 maybe) but then the storm starts to clear up. You can do it! You have to give it your all, if not you will never win! We are here for you Boaz, just keep focusing in on the how good it will be when you’re free from the evil drugs.

My thoughts are very much with you

phil

[Philster2003]

Marilyn,

I can so relate with your quandary. I did the same things and occasionally thought of a plan but always just talked myself into the next refill or Dr shopping. I finally just got so tired of the guilt, and all of the overhead with being addicted to pain meds (clock watching, Dr shopping, pharmacy shopping, lying to my wife, putting the meds first in my life, emotional instability, etc…..) But ultimately the guilt was the final straw that broke my back so to speak. Marilyn oh Marilyn you have to get fed up and decide that you need to take control. I’m not trying to be a jerk here, I just care for you and want you to have what I have now that I’ve ditched the drugs.

I have a good friend who has very legit pain issues and like me got himself a bit into pain med overuse so to speak. Well he got it sorted out, it just takes real discipline. Especially when his Dr told him he’d cut him off pain meds if he didn’t get his act together. So you can work it out, but it again take self control and discipline. I’d really advocate working with your Dr. You don’t have to provide the gory details but just try and work it out. Because it sounds like you can’t do without but you need to get control back. Not sure my thoughts helped but I tried!

phil