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Old 10-21-2003, 04:03 AM   #1
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hi.. : i am just asking for those who have had the lumbar epidurals for some information....did they work? http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/confused.gif i have an annular tear, spinal stenosis, 2 or 3 herniated discs, with buldging, spurs, etc. the pain is unbearable , but the most aggrevating thing to me is the sciatica in my right side. i cant walk, lie, sit,stand for any length of time. i am schedulaed for this injection on 11/5/03. i also have rsd and have had stellate ganglion blocks for that which only provided pain relief for 36 hours tops and i felt were just a waste of time and money. http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/t_down.gif so i would greatly appreciate any input of experience with these lumbar epidurals. i will go back and look at past posts. thank you in advance for any and all help..god bless bye 4 now!

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Old 10-21-2003, 08:57 AM   #2
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Good Morning Leon,

Welcome to the Healthboards. I am sorry to hear of your pain and lumbar diagnosis. I also suffered with the sciatica pain on my right side. I know first hand how unbearable the pain can be at times. Here is info I had and you may have already read it as I have posted this a couple of times on other threads. As for the information concerning sedation that all depends on if you are having this procedure done in your doctor's office or hospital. I had my lumbar ESI's done in my pain management office so I did not receive any IV sedation.

Epidural Steroid Injection (ESI)

How long does the injection take?

The actual injection takes only a few minutes.

What is actually injected?

The injection consists of a mixture of local anesthetic (like lidocaine or bupivacaine) and the steroid medication (triamcinolone – Aristocort® or methylprednisolone – Depo-medrol®).

Will the injection hurt?

The procedure involves inserting a needle through skin and deeper tissues (like a "tetanus shot"). So, there is some discomfort involved. However, we numb the skin and deeper tissues with a local anesthetic using a very thin needle prior to inserting the Epidural needle. Also, the tissues in the midline have less nerve supply, so usually you feel strong pressure and not much pain. Most of the patients also receive intravenous sedation and analgesia, which makes the procedure easy to tolerate.

Will I be "put out" for this procedure?

No. This procedure is done under local anesthesia. Most of the patients also receive intravenous sedation and analgesia, which makes the procedure easy to tolerate. The amount of sedation given generally depends upon the patient tolerance.

How is the injection performed?

It is done either with the patient sitting up or on the side. The patients are monitored with EKG, blood pressure cuff and blood oxygen monitoring device. The skin in the back is cleaned with antiseptic solution and then the injection is carried out. After the injection, you are placed on your back or on your side.

What should I expect after the injection?

Immediately after the injection, you may feel your legs slightly heavy and may be numb. Also, you may notice that your pain may be gone or quite less. This is due to the local anesthetic injected. This will last only for a few hours. Your pain will return and you may have a "sore back" for a day or two. This is due to the mechanical process of needle insertion as well as initial irritation form the steroid itself. You should start noticing pain relief starting the 3rd day or so.

What should I do after the procedure?

You should have a ride home. We advise the patients to take it easy for a day or so after the procedure. Perform the activities as tolerated by you.

Can I go back to work the next day?

You should be able to unless the procedure was complicated. Usually you will feel some back pain or have a "sore back" only.

How long the effect of the medication last?

The immediate effect is usually from the local anesthetic injected. This wears off in a few hours. The cortisone starts working in about 3 to 5 days and its effect can last for several days to a few months.

How many injections do I need to have?

If the first injection does not relieve your symptoms in about a week to two weeks, you may be recommended to have one more injection. Similarly If the second injection does not relieve your symptoms in about a week to two weeks, you may be recommended to have a third injection.

Can I have more than three injections?

In a six month period, we generally do not perform more than three injections. This is because the medication injected lasts for about six months. If three injections have not helped you much, it is very unlikely that you will get nay further benefit from more injections. Also, giving more injections will increase the likelihood of side effects from cortisone.

Will the Epidural Steroid Injection help me?

It is very difficult to predict if the injection will indeed help you or not. Generally speaking, the patients who have "radicular symptoms" (like sciatica) respond better to the injections than the patients who have only back pain. Similarly, the patients with a recent onset of pain may respond much better than the ones with a long standing pain. Also, the patients with back pain mainly due to bony abnormality may not respond adequately.

What are the risks and side effects?

Generally speaking, this procedure is safe. However, with any procedure there are risks, side effects, and possibility of complications. The most common side effect is pain – which is temporary. The other risk involve spinal puncture with headaches, infection, bleeding inside the Epidural space with nerve damage, worsening of symptoms etc. The other risks are related to the side effects of cortisone: These include weight gain, increase in blood sugar (mainly in diabetics), water retention, suppression of body’s own natural production of cortisone etc.

I had my lumbar epidural's in a sit up position. I only felt a pinch when they first inserted the needle with the numbing agent. Afterwards when they inserted the meds I only felt pressure. Unfortunately, I never got any pain relief from the epidurals but many people have. Also since mine was done at the office I was not monitored with the EKG.

Good Luck To You.
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Old 10-21-2003, 07:45 PM   #3
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leons-
Sorry you're having the pain that so many of us have experienced.

I had one set of injections (trans-foraminal) and got 2-3 hours relief - just until the novacaine wore off. When I went back for the second set, they decided not to do anymore. They told me if it were a disk causing the pain, the injections probably would not help. But, I urge you to give them a try. I have seen first-hand the relief they can give.

Good luck

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20 years intermittent back pain - no treatment sought
Nov 2001 - herniated disk - Right leg radiculopathy
Jan 2002 - Chiropractic care
Mar 2002 - MRI, X-Rays, Oral steroids
Apr 2002 - L4/L5 Microdiskectomy
Sept 2002 - PT, Oral steroids
Oct 2002 - MRI, Xrays - Failed Back Syndrome
Apr 2003 - TFESI, EMG, MRI
Diagnosis - DDD - foraminal narrowing, disk bulges, osteophytes, ligamentum flavum hypertrophy, active marrow edema, levoscoliosis, retrolisthesis, scar tissue encompassing L5 nerve root, disk height diminished, abnormal EMG results for left leg
Sept 2003 - Discogram with Xrays, CT Scan.
Tentative date: Nov.18 - 2 level 360 degree fusion surgery
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Old 10-21-2003, 09:20 PM   #4
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thank you for the information...i will give the epidural a try and hopefully will get some relief.
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Old 10-22-2003, 11:17 PM   #5
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Hi Leons,
Welcome, and I pray you get some relief, from the epidural..StarAngel

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