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Old 11-26-2005, 10:58 AM   #6
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Re: Anybody Up?

There are open meetings and closed meetings. Open = family, friends, kids and non-addicts can attend. Closed = all addicts and no outside visitors.

Yes do try again. Maybe a sharing meeting this time and a womens meeting might be a good start even if it is a bit of a drive. Nobody forces you to share if you aren't ready. You can just listen.

Ohhh...a speaker meeting. Sometimes they are really really good and sometimes they are really really bad..just depends on who is talking. I've been to some that were very inappropriate. One bad experience does not equal all bad. Trust me there are wonderful meetings with wonderful input and advice and sharing. People like me, arememom, sometimesslowly and others on this board who speak 12stepease. It sometimes takes a few meetings to feel comfortable or find a place where you get what you are looking for. The same basic formats are followed - but they are definitely NOT all the same.

You can also find speaker tapes and CD's of some of the best speakers I've ever known. Do a search on NA speaker tapes or something similar. Another search you might try if you haven't already is search on sober recovery. Lots of resources there.

Unfortunately just like out in the real world there are men and wemon who prey on newcomers. I'm sorry - but it's a fact of life. No different than at the bar, grocery store, church or any other social environment where you might be approached. Just don't buy into it...period. The safest bet to start with is just day NO if a man asks for your number. Ordinarily it should be YOU asking for phone numbers if you hear someone you can relate to and might want to talk with more. Not the other way around - and not usually the opposite sex. Period. I was 13th stepped fresh out of treatment 12 years ago. THe guy had multiple years in recovery and worked his "recovery magic" on me making me believe he was a really great guy with great recovery who wanted to "help" me. very handsome and populsr guy - charismatic speaker, lots of people around him - boy didn't I feel special. NOT! I later learned that about any attractive woman who came around was fair game for him and he pretty much always acted on it. YUCK. It's unfortunate, but a fact of life. Don't let it turn you against the program...there is good and bad in everything if you look for it.

Twang your idea is very much like what you could expect. Usually people sharing about what is going on in their lives, what they are frustrated about, if they feel like using, if they are just getting clean, etc... others will speak up and offer advice and suggestions much like what you see here. Everything is based around the 12 steps and the NA literature..or should be. Always take what you can use and leave the rest. You'll never take 100% of everything you hear to heart - but if you hear one phrase or one suggestion or meet one person who seems happy, joyous and drug free - it's something to take away.

Reagrdless of your first experience I assure you there are wonderful people in those rooms. People who will walk through the fires of hell with you and I'm not exaggerating. I have many many friends in the fellowship and I consider them TRUE, REAL friends. The kind of people who will actually give and not take take take..people genuinely concerned about your welfare and your feelings.

Try again. The womens meeting is a good idea...you might be more comfortable to start with there. Check it out. Hope you are sleeping Karen. I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. It does take a while to get your mind and body back on track - but it is so very worth it when you finally do.
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:28 PM   #7
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Re: Anybody Up?

Anyone who wants the phone number of a newcomer of the opposite sex (if hetro) has absolutely no and I mean NOOOOOOOO respect or concern for your staying clean.

Run and run like he!! from people like that....better yet just look at them and say "NO and leave me alone!"
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:50 PM   #8
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Re: Anybody Up?

Good Afternoon All,

Each day of the week we have a different meeting topic ( Newcomer meeting talking about Steps 1-3, Speaker, Big Book Study, Twelve & Twelve Study, etc). I can tell you that as a newcomer I never got much out of Thursday night meetings. But I can say that 6 out of 7 nights are great to me. I belong to Cocaine Anonymous and I've decided our home group are rebels (in a good way to me). All of our meetings are "Open" meetings, meaning anyone can attend. We also don't go around the room introducing ourselves at the beginning of the meeting. However, we do introduce ourself any time we read or share. My friend is in NA and they have open and closed meetings. And she doesn't like some of the things we do different. But I just tell her, she's an oldtimer. We agree to disagree.

Some nights the discussions are hard and crude and other nights they are not.Sometimes I do feel some share just a bit more information than I need to know about the things they've done in their past. There are some things I'll never share with anyone but my sponsor. But that's my choice. I try to think that there are those who need to hear those sorted details so they don't feel alone. It is good to hear someone say something that you thought only you had done. I have been a judgemental person in the past. That is one thing I'm really trying not doing in the program. Who am I to judge others. I need to keep my side of the street clean and not worry about others.

Don't expect to trust anyone in the beginning. Why should you trust people you don't know? Trust is earned and will come in it's own good time. I wouldn't even trust everyone in the rooms today. I did surprise myself when working my 2nd step with my sponsor. As I was talking about some things, I hesitated and told her the worst thing I'd done while using. It was the thing that made me feel worthless. Guess what? She'd done the same thing. Shocked me! Of course before telling her what it was, I said this is something I didn't think I'd ever tell a soul.


I agree with all the post about the vultures out there. I was blessed with some good guys in our home group. Especially two who have become my friends (and they don't have my number). They don't believe in 13th stepping newcomers. Not that they haven't done it in the past. But they learned from their mistakes. But one warned me when I have a year clean the gloves are off. I have given my number to a few guys in our group, who I feel comfortable with. And we discussed why we were giving each other our numbers. They know I'm there to work the program, stay clean and live a happy life. Now that's not to say I wouldn't ever date... a guy in the program. It's just not where I'm at today. I agree that a woman's meeting may be a good place for you to go also. But don't let some jack... stop you from your ultimate goal.
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Old 11-27-2005, 02:36 AM   #9
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Re: Anybody Up?

Hey sk777,

How are ya today? Hope you got some sleep. Just wanted to let you know I'm thought of you off and on today.
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Old 11-27-2005, 04:29 PM   #10
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Re: Anybody Up?

Hi Arememom,

I think I might finally be turning a corner. I ended up at the ER last night because I've had a migraine that will not go away and had a run-in at the pharmacy about refilling, I thought maybe something else like a huge NSAID dose would work. They ended up giving me imitrex again (I refused narcotics). So I may be back to migraine tonight...

I told him about the drug w/d, it's so funny, ER docs, my primary care told me, never see anybody again so they think stuff goes a way really fast. Anyway, apparently ambien doesn't cause w/d, just maybe a couple nights of insomnia and benzo, well that's usually over in 4-5 days. So I'm nodding, thinking, I'm going to let you treat me, okay, glad I don't have a knife wound... Anyway, he gave me a scrip for yet another migraine med, and I'm already thinking I have to go to a different pharmacy, either that or bring all my imitrex and maxalt back to my pharmacy to show them I haven't taken any of it. Pharmacy shopping for migraine med. Makes me laugh.

Anyway, they gave me compazine which knocks me out, so I slept for 12 hours last night, starting before midnight. Yes, you read that correctly, not starting at 6 am. Although I had to drag myself out of bed at noon and think could sleep for another 12 hours, I have to go to work. Today is the day of no choice. Yesterday was supposed to be that day but today, really. Pity party and/or bender is over, thank you for coming, don't let the door slap your a** on the way out. That should be my daily affirmation, keep repeating it over and over until I get off the couch.
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