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Old 01-03-2007, 11:11 AM   #1
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Question Kidney Failure Questions

The nurse @ the nursing home where my grandmother lives said she is in kidney failure. She said she is at a 19 where they normally start dialysis at a 15. What are these numbers I can't any information on them. Can anyone get dialysis or do you have to be relatively healthy. She has congestive heart failure, and bronchitis right now. I know this can't be good. Any suggestions on where to read up on this.
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Old 01-03-2007, 07:57 PM   #2
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Re: Kidney Failure Questions

Sorry, but I don't know what the nurse is talking about. Ask her and then post and maybe we can help you.

I can tell you that I personally know many elderly people who are on dialysis and do quite well. They may have some difficulty getting an access in to start dialysis, but it is one of those things where they can make it work if necessary and if she wants to do it.

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Old 01-04-2007, 08:29 AM   #3
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Re: Kidney Failure Questions

The numbers are a percentage.My husbands doctor told me that you go on dialysis when your kidneys are only working at 15%.My husbands were only working at 4% when they discovered that he was in kidney failure.I guess they had been failing for months.He had been really under the weather but we didn't know why.Once he started dialysis he started feeling better.I seen a lot of older people go the the treatment center.Some of them weren't in very good health to begin with.The bottom line is that if you need dialysis then you have to have it or you will die.The kidneys filter the poisons out of your system.They also tell your blood to reproduce.If they aren't doing their job than dialysis does it for them.If the doctors aren't talking dialysis yet then don't worry about it.They will know when the time is right.An access line can be done in a matter of hours,and you can live for days without dialysis.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:39 AM   #4
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Re: Kidney Failure Questions

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The numbers are a percentage.My husbands doctor told me that you go on dialysis when your kidneys are only working at 15%.My husbands were only working at 4% when they discovered that he was in kidney failure.I guess they had been failing for months.He had been really under the weather but we didn't know why.Once he started dialysis he started feeling better.I seen a lot of older people go the the treatment center.Some of them weren't in very good health to begin with.The bottom line is that if you need dialysis then you have to have it or you will die.The kidneys filter the poisons out of your system.They also tell your blood to reproduce.If they aren't doing their job than dialysis does it for them.If the doctors aren't talking dialysis yet then don't worry about it.They will know when the time is right.An access line can be done in a matter of hours,and you can live for days without dialysis.
Deedee has a lot of good comments, but I have to disagree with a couple of things. While the kidneys do produce a hormone that makes you produce red blood cells, dialysis does not solve the problem of you not producing enough red blood cells (anemia). If your grandmother has anemia, it will have to be treated by the doctors with injections (epo or aranesp or procrit) and she may be given iron as well. Sometimes this is not treated because the docs figure the patient isn't that active anyway and doesn't care about being tired.

If the docs aren't talking about dialysis, it might be a good idea to bring it up. In some cases, like in nursing homes, the docs make a decision that it's not worth it to the patient to go on dialysis. Sometimes this is just an assumption and they don't give the patient a choice. Talk to the docs who are in charge of her care. Find out what their plans are for her.

Silly me for not figuring out the percentage. Duh!

Take care.

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Old 01-05-2007, 01:11 AM   #5
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Re: Kidney Failure Questions

I'm sorry.I didn't mean to imply that dialysis solves all.My husband got his EPO shot at dialysis so to me they go hand in hand.You also said something about congestive heart failure.That is another complication of kidney failure.It doesn't mean that your grandmothers is caused by the kidney failure.Congestive heart failure can be caused by a lot of things.One of the other functions of the kidneys is to remove fluid buildup.My husband would have that problem if he got too much fluid in his system.
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