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Old 06-02-2007, 04:24 PM   #11
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Re: How much acetaminophen?

Well, perhaps just to give someone hope that is as scared as I am and going through the same thing. Maybe just to make myself feel better. I don't know.

The study didn't suggest that continued acetaminophen intake gets any healthier for you, or that it was healthy in the first place, but to me it suggested that your body can indeed build a form of resistance to it over time and exposure. This would explain how people like me who have abused medicine with acetaminophen over a long period of time can live through a 10-20g a day habit, while someone who does it for the first time would likely die if they took 20g, or at least wind up hospitalized.

I'll admit that the article did give me a moment of hope and relief. I'm in no way under the impression that that much acetaminophen intake is acceptable or any less dangerous, though.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:32 PM   #12
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Re: How much acetaminophen?

72575,

Reach is very right, hydro and darvocet both cause water retention and dehydration.....do you notice yourself really thirsty and drinking alot?

I am confused about what you are asking....There's no two ways about it....the amount of acet. you are ingesting is highly toxic and will catch up to you one day......are you wanting to know if it's okay, wanting to stop, wanting alternatives.......?

Like Coder said, there's no way of justifying this....

And I have known many people who have taken in excess of 20 pills a day (much more) and survived.....survived a pretty lousey life, but survived none the less. You can read all the scientific reports you want to and you will find no better experts than the ones who come to this board (the addicts). Nothing personal...don't take me wrong....but you will get blunt answers here. No need to sugar coat a serious matter, that isn't gonna help you at all....right?

Most likely your kidneys will go before your liver...and having problems peeing is one of the signs of kidney problems...and peeing little amounts...extreme thirst...dizziness...and slight haluciations or seeing little flashes of light....
Your kidneys show up as krentitine (sp?) on bloodwork and should be in the range of (-1) to (+1)....(if I remember correctly)...

The only way you are going to know if you have any physical damage is to see a doctor.....You can't really self diagnose something like this, and if you do have a problem, you are going to need medical attention.....once your kidneys are failing, there is nothing you can do from home to correct the problem.....and if you keep up on the pace you're on, you could very easily end up on dialysis.....which is quite miserable!

I say you take the advice of the people here and either change your choice of meds, see a doctor, or quit altogether....

Whatever you decide, we are all here for you and hope the best in your endeavors!
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Old 06-02-2007, 05:22 PM   #13
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Re: How much acetaminophen?

72575,

I think what the report is saying is that if the average joe blow took the amount of acet. that you take, they would o/d right away....

...or if you had taken the amount you do now 5 years ago, you too would have o/d'd also.....

I'm not sure that it means we build a "resistance" but rather, a tolerance level....which also means it takes more to be effective on pain, which means you take more for the pain, which means you exceed your threshold for tolerance trying to kill the pain.....does that make sense? So you still can o/d, it takes a lot more.

I don't really see why you feel hope and relief from that report....it's like the person who works in the sun and can take staying in the sun all day without getting burned, and the person who rarely gets out will burn and blister.....either one can still get cancer.

It may take longer for you to show any damage from all the acet., but the damage you will have will be much worse, and you will have much more of it.
The organs in your body are taking some very long, slow abuse resulting in some pretty brutal damage.

But on a better note, if you can actually sit up and talk then you may not have much damage so far, because believe me, if you did have substantial kidney or liver damage, you could not do much of anything and you would be insisting on going to the ER! So, it's not too late to change your intake and prevent further problems!

Again, Darvocet is one of the worst things you can abuse! Pharmacuetical wise anyway...

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Old 06-02-2007, 06:10 PM   #14
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Re: How much acetaminophen?

Hello 72775

I thank Shay very much for asking the questions asked. I couldn't figure out either exactly what the goal is for you. If you want to continue to take an opiate for whatever reason, that is certainly your choice. But unless you are concerned with all the ingredients in any particular med you are taking, then the research you are doing is kinda lopsided. It seems to me that you are trying to prove that you aren't gonna drop dead from acetaminophen... or it, in all honesty, actually seems that your research is an effort to justify why you want to change over to a straigght opiate (ie. oxycodene). Well, as you are still alive and kicking, too much Tylenol has not ben ingested yet. I don't meab to sound crude, but is that what you are wondering? if youe only concern is the Tylenol, then just don't take a med with Tylenol in it.

Good wishes
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:12 PM   #15
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Re: How much acetaminophen?

Thanks for the replies, first of all. Most appreciated.

Yes, I'm wanting to confirm that I haven't already killed myself, more or less. I'm very worried about the amounts of acetaminophen that I have already taken over time, and more so this past month with the darvocet. I've been taking 20 of the 100/625 a day, so that's 12.5g a day of acetaminophen, and that's not good at all, I've learned. I'm hoping that I haven't already done serious damage to myself. I am done with the opiates containing acetaminophen, though, and plan to switch over to ibuprophen and cut down my use to one or two doses a day at the most.

Although, another problem presents itself, as my pain managment doctor did a 180 on me last time I was there and went from wanting to put me on multiple pain killers like Oxycontin and others combined, to telling me that I am too young for this (32) and she wants to take me off of everything within a month. The pain is too much for me to do that, which is why I went there in the first place. She doesn't know that I'm an addict or that I abuse the meds, so I don't know why she changed her tune so suddenly now. I know full well I have a problem with the medication and propenisty to abuse it, but ti is very problematic in that I actually truly need it and can't live comfortably without it for more than a day or so.
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