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Old 04-11-2007, 05:03 PM   #21
WendyHall
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Re: Systemic Mastocytosis

Hi Chris,

I think I told you but just in case I forgot. My UP spots are everywhere but my face. I have lots but I have seen pictures where people are totally covered and I am not. Anyway my spots are a reddish/tan and kinda look like huge freckles. They stay reddish/tan til I go in the sun and they turn blood red and raise and itch like crazy. H1 blockers are the claritan and atarax your taking. An H2 blocker is pepcid, zantac, stuff like that. I can't remember but do you get alot of stomach bloating and diarrhea and nausea? The h1 and h2 work together but if you have those other symptoms your doc should start you on Gastrocrom. Its very expensive so you need to have insurance or else its like 1500 dollars for a month supply. It does help alot of masto's with symptoms unfortunately I can't take it. It will take several weeks before you notice a difference. If you have a bone marrow biopsy see if they will knock you out. Not alot of places will do that but when I was at MD Anderson they knocked me out everytime. They don't believe in pain. Twice I have had bmb's w/out being knocked out and had to load up on the benedryl first because the pain from the biopsy and aspirate set off the anaphylaxis.

Wendy
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:56 PM   #22
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Re: Systemic Mastocytosis

I do not think I am on any H2 blockers the Dytan I have been told is just like Benadryl. Do I have stomach bloating!! Yes... I am only 5'1" so I am not a big girl but my stomach is way bigger looking than it should be. It will get so swollen in the middle of the night that it is huge and wakes me up, from it hurting! Besides I pee like 3 or 4 times a night along with the night sweats, nights are not really good. I have another appt tomorrow with the Allergy/Immunology guy.. I will let you know what he says next.
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:27 PM   #23
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Re: Systemic Mastocytosis

Hi, Wendy,
I am new to this board but thought it might be helpful to both my husband and me.
My husband is 56 and began having "episodes" in 1997 and much like everyone else I have heard of, has been through the gammut of tests ranging from heart, neurological, T-cell lymphoma and carcinoid cyndrome. The severe "anaphylactic" type attacks occur out of the blue, but only once every 2-3 years. He has been rushed to the ER on 2 different occasions, but now doesn't bother, because of the frustration with doctors. He has "mini-episodes" more frequently, but doesn't always tell me about them.
I started doing my own research in 2004 and that is when I began to suspect mastocytosis. The skin disease he had, to me, was a tell-tale sign, but when doctors saw the rash they pretty much brushed it off.
Well, through the OK Masto Society, I was able to locate a Doctor in OKC who is an expert on masto and lectures around the country on the topic and also found a dermatologist is has "a" patient with masto, so for the last 6 weeks my husband has been going through another series of tests. He had an endoscopy that revealed he had ulcers and also H-pyloric bacteria. I asked if there was a diagnosis of masto and they said no and they would not be able to do anything else until this bacteria was gone. But he did have increased mast cells in his small intestine. He is currently on a 2 week therapy pac that will kill the bad bacteria as well as the good. Not fun for him at all. It is making him pretty sick.
The dermatologist did a punch biopsy of one of the skin spots and it did come back as TMEP, a rare type of cutaneous mastocytosis. They also did a serum tryptase test (not during an episode) which came back with a tryptase level of 29 which also confirms cutaneous mastocytosis. They have not yet diagnosed systemic mastocytosis. I am assuming that a bone biopsy would be the only way to confirm this; am I correct in this assumption?
I do not think my husband will want to do any more tests and especially the bone biopsy. We will just continue to treat with H1 and H2 histamine blockers.
Does anyone have any observations or comments. I would appreciate any information I can get.

Thanks,
Momanek

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Hi Chris,

I think I told you but just in case I forgot. My UP spots are everywhere but my face. I have lots but I have seen pictures where people are totally covered and I am not. Anyway my spots are a reddish/tan and kinda look like huge freckles. They stay reddish/tan til I go in the sun and they turn blood red and raise and itch like crazy. H1 blockers are the claritan and atarax your taking. An H2 blocker is pepcid, zantac, stuff like that. I can't remember but do you get alot of stomach bloating and diarrhea and nausea? The h1 and h2 work together but if you have those other symptoms your doc should start you on Gastrocrom. Its very expensive so you need to have insurance or else its like 1500 dollars for a month supply. It does help alot of masto's with symptoms unfortunately I can't take it. It will take several weeks before you notice a difference. If you have a bone marrow biopsy see if they will knock you out. Not alot of places will do that but when I was at MD Anderson they knocked me out everytime. They don't believe in pain. Twice I have had bmb's w/out being knocked out and had to load up on the benedryl first because the pain from the biopsy and aspirate set off the anaphylaxis.

Wendy
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Old 09-13-2007, 06:28 PM   #24
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Re: Systemic Mastocytosis

Hi, Wendy,
I am new to this board but thought it might be helpful to both my husband and me.
My husband is 56 and began having "episodes" in 1997 and much like everyone else I have heard of, has been through the gammut of tests ranging from heart, neurological, T-cell lymphoma and carcinoid cyndrome. The severe "anaphylactic" type attacks occur out of the blue, but only once every 2-3 years. He has been rushed to the ER on 2 different occasions, but now doesn't bother, because of the frustration with doctors. He has "mini-episodes" more frequently, but doesn't always tell me about them.
I started doing my own research in 2004 and that is when I began to suspect mastocytosis. The skin disease he had, to me, was a tell-tale sign, but when doctors saw the rash they pretty much brushed it off.
Well, through the OK Masto Society, I was able to locate a Doctor in OKC who is an expert on masto and lectures around the country on the topic and also found a dermatologist who has "a" patient with masto, so for the last 6 weeks my husband has been going through another series of tests. He had an endoscopy that revealed he had ulcers and also H-pyloric bacteria. I asked if there was a diagnosis of masto and they said no and they would not be able to do anything else until this bacteria was gone. But he did have increased mast cells in his small intestine. He is currently on a 2 week therapy pac that will kill the bad bacteria as well as the good. Not fun for him at all. It is making him pretty sick.
The dermatologist did a punch biopsy of one of the skin spots and it did come back as TMEP, a rare type of cutaneous mastocytosis. They also did a serum tryptase test (not during an episode) which came back with a tryptase level of 29 which also confirms cutaneous mastocytosis. They have not yet diagnosed systemic mastocytosis. I am assuming that a bone biopsy would be the only way to confirm this; am I correct in this assumption?
I do not think my husband will want to do any more tests and especially the bone biopsy. We will just continue to treat with H1 and H2 histamine blockers.
Does anyone have any observations or comments. I would appreciate any information I can get.

Thanks,
Momanek

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Hi Chris,

I think I told you but just in case I forgot. My UP spots are everywhere but my face. I have lots but I have seen pictures where people are totally covered and I am not. Anyway my spots are a reddish/tan and kinda look like huge freckles. They stay reddish/tan til I go in the sun and they turn blood red and raise and itch like crazy. H1 blockers are the claritan and atarax your taking. An H2 blocker is pepcid, zantac, stuff like that. I can't remember but do you get alot of stomach bloating and diarrhea and nausea? The h1 and h2 work together but if you have those other symptoms your doc should start you on Gastrocrom. Its very expensive so you need to have insurance or else its like 1500 dollars for a month supply. It does help alot of masto's with symptoms unfortunately I can't take it. It will take several weeks before you notice a difference. If you have a bone marrow biopsy see if they will knock you out. Not alot of places will do that but when I was at MD Anderson they knocked me out everytime. They don't believe in pain. Twice I have had bmb's w/out being knocked out and had to load up on the benedryl first because the pain from the biopsy and aspirate set off the anaphylaxis.

Wendy
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Old 09-14-2007, 09:57 AM   #25
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Re: Systemic Mastocytosis

Momanek,

Hey this is Chris... I have the TMEP and was just diagnosised through bone marrow biopsy with systemic masto, they have told me it is mild (have no idea what that means) and I would love to keep it that way. My tryptase was 23 last time it was checked this is my base level it really never goes below that now. And it has never been tested during an episode. I think if your husbands masto is systemic and more aggressive they usually do additional treatments then just the H1 and H2 blockers. I know my doctor mentioned Interferon. Not that I will do that?? Anyway, my bone marrow biopsy was not bad at all, they gave me the twilight drug right before hand and it was relatively easy.
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