Red yeast capsules what do they do - Page 2

Lord_Taff · 11-17-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Arizona77

Hi Lord_Taff,

Wanted to ask you as you seem very knowledgeable about Red Yeast Rice. What else is Red Yeast Rice good for? To my understanding being a natural statin it is good for lowering primarily your LDL, TRIG and can slightly raise HDL minimally. Also I have heard it is used in Chinese medicine to promote circulation and digestion. Does Red Yest Rice offer other Cardiovascular or health benefits besides lipid control? Thanks in advanced for your response.

Hi Arizona77

As far as I am aware the ancient Chinese used Hong Qu (Red Yeast Rice) as a preservative, spice, and food colouring substance. (British spelling for color)
It's still used to give Peking duck its red colour and can be an ingredient of fish sauce, fish paste, and rice wine.

Red yeast rice is still used in traditional Chinese medicine as a remedy for poor circulation (invigorates blood circulation and eliminates blood stasis), indigestion, and diarrhea.

When RYR is produced using the 'Went' strain of Monascus purpureus, it contains significant quantites of the HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor lovastatin (mevinolin) or monacolin K, a naturally-occurring statin.
Monacolins possess hydroxymethyglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG-CoA) reductase-inhibitory activity. There are fourteen identified Monacolins to date, but only one has been scientifically trialled and was then artificially COPIED.

As stated before on this site 'Monacolin K' has now recently been banned as an ingredient of all red yeast rice products sold in the USA, but only in the USA. It still OK to be sold as an over the counter purchase in Europe and Asia.
Red Yeast Rice even has a page mentioned on the National Health Service website of the UK as an alternative remedy for high cholesterol reduction for patients not wanting to take, or are unable to tolerate statin medication.

Although 'Monacolin K' has been banned by your FDA, there are several good RYR preparations produced within the US without the manufactured by-product, Citrinin, containing a combination of some of the other remaining thirteen so far identified Monacolins which actually work well, if not better than RYR preparations containing Lovastatin (Monacolin K). Two that I personally know that definitely work, are Nature's Plus and Source Naturals. There are obviously others, but I would need to know the type of 'Monacolin' content of any other brands before I could possibly comment.
Today, it would be impossible to obtain ALL information regarding the full content of a RYR capsule from virtually any RYR manufacturer.

As for other Cardiovascular benefits, I personally know of none. Until science delves deeper and deeper into understanding the properties of the remaining known 'Monacolins', trial them, and then STEAL one or more of those natural monacolin substances, artificially produce and classify it/them a drug, like they did for 'Monancolin K' and named it's artifical version, Lovastatin, we will not know.

Lord Taff of Puffin Island.

Arizona77 · 11-17-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Taff

Hi Arizona77

As far as I am aware the ancient Chinese used Hong Qu (Red Yeast Rice) as a preservative, spice, and food colouring substance. (British spelling for color)
It's still used to give Peking duck its red colour and can be an ingredient of fish sauce, fish paste, and rice wine.

Red yeast rice is still used in traditional Chinese medicine as a remedy for poor circulation (invigorates blood circulation and eliminates blood stasis), indigestion, and diarrhea.

When RYR is produced using the 'Went' strain of Monascus purpureus, it contains significant quantites of the HMG-CoA reductase inhibitor lovastatin (mevinolin) or monacolin K, a naturally-occurring statin.
Monacolins possess hydroxymethyglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG-CoA) reductase-inhibitory activity. There are fourteen identified Monacolins to date, but only one has been scientifically trialled and was then artificially COPIED.

As stated before on this site 'Monacolin K' has now recently been banned as an ingredient of all red yeast rice products sold in the USA, but only in the USA. It still OK to be sold as an over the counter purchase in Europe and Asia.
Red Yeast Rice even has a page mentioned on the National Health Service website of the UK as an alternative remedy for high cholesterol reduction for patients not wanting to take, or are unable to tolerate statin medication.

Although 'Monacolin K' has been banned by your FDA, there are several good RYR preparations produced within the US without the manufactured by-product, Citrinin, containing a combination of some of the other remaining thirteen so far identified Monacolins which actually work well, if not better than RYR preparations containing Lovastatin (Monacolin K). Two that I personally know that definitely work, are Nature's Plus and Source Naturals. There are obviously others, but I would need to know the type of 'Monacolin' content of any other brands before I could possibly comment.
Today, it would be impossible to obtain ALL information regarding the full content of a RYR capsule from virtually any RYR manufacturer.

As for other Cardiovascular benefits, I personally know of none. Until science delves deeper and deeper into understanding the properties of the remaining known 'Monacolins', trial them, and then STEAL one or more of those natural monacolin substances, artificially produce and classify it/them a drug, like they did for 'Monancolin K' and named it's artifical version, Lovastatin, we will not know.

Lord Taff of Puffin Island.

Hi Lord_Taff,

Thanks you very much for your response. Extremely informative and thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Cheers

Lord_Taff · 11-17-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by moldman

Vegetarians don't have many problems with cholesterol since it is only found in meat.

Moldman,

Please........

Whether vegetarians like it or not, they are also made of a good proportion of 'meat', and cholesterol is also produced within this type of human species. Whether we only eat grass, cows, fish, etc. we, the human species all manufacture cholesterol which is a requirement for our bodies to function. Some produce more, some less, whether vegetarian or not.

Vegetarians have an average total cholesterol level of 161 and vegans 131. However, I think you will find that the HDL/TC and HDL/LDL ratios are not that different from that of a person on a sensible normal day to day diet.

Lord Taff