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Old 12-30-2007, 09:41 PM   #1
rozetat2
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I Just Cant Get It--im Such A Loser---

I swear.... sigh. Getting off suboxone has been a nightmare for me. I just cant do it. I pick a date and then as soon as the day rolls around Im upping my dose. I want off this so much. Ive told my husband and he is going to help me but I cant get below 4mgs. I was down to 2-back up to 3, now at 4. This is wearing me out. Im so scared that Im not going to be the same person when i stop the sub. Ive been on it 2years now. I cant take it anymore. Ive gained weight and Im not getting any younger. Im thinking of just jumping at 2mgs in a week. I have 8 percocets, a script for clonidine, a script for seroquel and about 50 darvocets. Does anyone out there think this is enough and Ill be ok if i jump from say 2 or 3mgs or sub next week?
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:55 AM   #2
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Re: I Just Cant Get It--im Such A Loser---this Sux

one thing is pretty much for sure if you jump at 2mg or even 1mg and that is a relapse will happen.you will feel like crap for so long that it will break you and you will relapse and all the time spent on sub will be for nothin.you are gonna have to do one of two things here.#1 being let your husband hold and hide the sub from you and give you enough for the day and get you down like that,and yes it will cause hard feelings before it is over.or #2 you are gonna have to be honest with the dr on this and have him give you enough for the month where if you take more you will run out early and suffer big time.this is the only way out for you at this point to be successfull with the sub imo.you have become readdicted to the sub and it is working on you just as your doc did before sub.dont worry it happens to alot of us and it will drive you crazy if you let it.this is the price we pay for lettin addicts self medicate themselves.it can work for a few of us,but most of us are gonna take more and more tryin to get a buzz that aint gonna happen.what happens to you is pretty much gonna be up to you from this point on.be carefull,these sub drs get spooked easily and he might up and drop you for no reason and you will hurt if you are still not below 1mg mark.talk it over.good luck-spark
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:31 PM   #3
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Re: I Just Cant Get It--im Such A Loser---this Sux

1st off, the fact you have percs and darvoset on hand while on sub tx isn't a very good sign. Why do you still have opiates around?? You're just asking for trouble, and IMHO it's a sign you're not really ready to quit.

Getting below 4 mg of sub is hard....really hard. I recently did it, after being stable at 4mg for a good 6 months. I droped to about 3 mg a day for a few weeks, then right to 2 mg. It was really hard some mornings not to take more than 2 mg, and a a few times I did take extra...but I finally got the willpower up to stick with just 2 mg a day, and now after a month at 2 mg, I feel just the same as i did on 4, or 8 mg even. It's all about willpower and determination, and wanting to do this. Yes, you're not going to feel wonderful all the time, but thats the way it is...You'll feel a lot better than if you had nothing, and will still be able to sleep and function.

Are you getting couceling? I use to scoff at the idea of it myself, but there really can be something to it....even if that something is going is such a pain in the butt that it gives you incentive to stop using. Counceling also gives you someone to report to, and to be proud when you have been doing good, or to help you evaluatae when you're not doing so well. Suboxone without counceling is largely a waste of your time and money, unless maybe you don't have any underlying ciases for using in the first place.

Stopping sub at 3, 2 or even 1 mg of sub is almost a guarantee you'll replapse. Yoiu need to get down to just tiny crumbs a day, like 0.25 mg a day, and then quit. If you're at 4 mg a day still, you have a ways to go, to be successful at it....and please, flush those other opiates you have laying around. Perhaps inlist the help of your hubby to dole out your daily sub, because it is so easy to take just a little more on those days when you feel like crap....it
is really mostly psycological though...thats our old more is better thinking....With sub, less is better.

Good luck,

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Old 12-31-2007, 01:42 PM   #4
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Re: I Just Cant Get It--im Such A Loser---

Thanks for the replies-- even though I didnt like them! I do know I need to change my ways of doing things because they are so not working. Ive been collecting the darvocets from this man for the past few months now and I bought the percs the other day because I wanted to jump and I was afraid because I was on such a high dose. The other opiates are just my security net. I dont really want to use them and hoping I wont need them. Ive just read so many bad things about coming off sub that Im plagued with fear. This is taking so long I dont want to waste any more of my life on this junk. But I do appreciate youre comments-- thanks guys.. roze
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:29 PM   #5
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Re: I Just Cant Get It--im Such A Loser---

we were not hard on you roze just concerned.4yrs is a long time.i am friends on another site with this guy and he was on sub for over 7yrs.he finally got off it but he says he still is not "right" after being clean for over a year and a half.you been on it 4yrs now so you are lookin at atleast a full yr of discomfort and paws.hard exercise might lessen the time frame.we wish you the best of luck-spark
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