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Old 03-19-2008, 08:43 PM   #21
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Re: BYSTOLIC (Nebivolol) - New Hypertensive(Beta Blocker)Medication

Hi Ace,

thank you very much for sharing your experience with these two types of beta blockers. I guess time will tell which one is best for you. Your posts seem to indicate that even these newest beta blockers are not without side effects (contrary to some claims). I have developed some tolerance to selective beta blockers over time. I don't get very tired and can function almost normally (if I don't do anything physically too demanding).

I hope you've chosen wisely - the good thing is you can always switch back to Bisoprolol or try another beta blocker, if needed.

Thanks once again for your informative posts.

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Old 03-20-2008, 01:29 PM   #22
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Re: BYSTOLIC (Nebivolol) - New Hypertensive(Beta Blocker)Medication

Hi Ace,

I got permanent damage to my knees from Cozaar & I was only on it for 13 days. So you better be careful. I have to wear ace bandages to walk any distance other than to the bathroom at home. It's no fun. Fam
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Old 05-15-2008, 04:40 PM   #23
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Re: BYSTOLIC (Nebivolol) - New Hypertensive(Beta Blocker)Medication

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Hi Ace,

thank you very much for sharing your experience with these two types of beta blockers. I guess time will tell which one is best for you. Your posts seem to indicate that even these newest beta blockers are not without side effects (contrary to some claims). I have developed some tolerance to selective beta blockers over time. I don't get very tired and can function almost normally (if I don't do anything physically too demanding).

I hope you've chosen wisely - the good thing is you can always switch back to Bisoprolol or try another beta blocker, if needed.

Thanks once again for your informative posts.

flowergirl


Hi Flowergirl,

After exploring most of the beta-blockers for the past several months. I think I can say say with pretty good certainty that BYSTOLIC gives excellent
heart rate control. If you experience PACS and PVC's, BYSTOLIC gives remarkable control (Like no other beta-blocker I've ever tried). TOPROL and BISOPROLOL suppress the faster heart-beat (which is good), but do not help as much with the PVC's. BYSTOLIC appears to be "decent" when it comes to blood pressure control, but BISOPROLOL appears to be much more effective at the same dosage (5mg) for blood pressure control. My doctor claims Bisoprolol is the strongest of the beta-blockers.

As far as side effects, BISOPROLOL and BYSTOLIC are very similar (fatigue, minor aches and pains, slight weight gain etc...) but neither have given me nightmares and mood-swings like TOPROL.

P.S. For now, I will continue with the BYSTOLIC (as I continue to monitor my BP numbers)
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:30 PM   #24
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Re: BYSTOLIC (Nebivolol) - New Hypertensive(Beta Blocker)Medication

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You don't get any muscle aches on Pravachol? I'll do some reading about it. It seems to me that everytime I mention the wonder drug (Lipitor) as a possible cause of my aches the doctor gets MAD and says they are caused by -what else?-anxiety. I even quit taking it once because of scary muscle/nerve coordination problems and was persuaded to go back on it by my nephrologist. That's why I am not sure I have the option of stopping it completely or switching to another drug (unless it is very effective in reducing cholesterol). Oh well. I am lucky I am not on a high dose, I guess.
What about taking CoQ10? As statins are infamous for causing muscle aches, especially in legs, so CoQ10 is famous to counter that. In fact, the aches might come about precisely because the statins deplete the CoQ10 from muscle. Aches are one thing, but what about when the damage occurs to cardiac muscle?

But a lot of mainline docs never tell their patients that. They instead switch from statin to statin, and sometimes that works - but sometimes it doesn't. Or, you can switch to a fibrate like Lopid/gemfibrozol. Fibrates were the predecessors to statins.

Have you ever read the analysis of statin use based on the medical/statistical concept of Number Needed To Treat? It's an eye opener. <removed> Summary: when you give statins to large number of people, by far the huge huge majority will have no benefit. At least 99/100 or as high as 249/250. So is the risk of side effects worth it to those who do not have really bad lipid profiles?

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Old 05-15-2008, 06:34 PM   #25
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Re: BYSTOLIC (Nebivolol) - New Hypertensive(Beta Blocker)Medication

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As far as side effects, BISOPROLOL and BYSTOLIC are very similar (fatigue, minor aches and pains..
Hi, Ace. Earlier in this thread you mentioned knee pain from the nebivolol. What particular knee structure was involved... tendons, cartilage? And what is the mechanism for the knee damage?
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