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Old 02-17-2003, 03:47 PM   #6
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Boy!! You guys!! Ultram....Darvon!! Come on! Your lucky your not withdrawling from some powerful medication like Dilaudid or Oxycontin or MSContin or Vicodin or Percoset!! Darvon? That's just a little stronger than Asprin!!And Ultram....is that even an Opiate? Good Luck and count youeselves lucky...it could've been alot worst!!

I'm mostly a lurker here and on the pain board, but this post convinced me to register. I need to vent.

Every single person is different. I have known people first hand who walked away from heroine cold turkey after a long duration of use and never went back and were able to function during withdrawl. I also know of someone who actually was killed by the withdrawel from that same drug. I also know someone who thought she was gonna die after she ran out of tylenol 3 after 4 months of use. Personally, when I stopped my usage of codeine after 5 months of heavy use for backpain(self medication) I had a sleepless night and bad gas, then I was fine.

I took Lorcet for over a year. 5-6 pills a day on average, sometimes up to 10. Towards the end it was purely for pleasure and thats when I was taking the most, then decided enough was enough and stopped. It wasn't pleasant. I had a 3 days of cravings, restlessness, cramps, runs, and cold sweats and hyper somnia. THAT was mild compared to what my friend went through who ran out of tylenol 3. The physical withdrawl I went through was unpleasant for me, I could handle it though. I have known people who suffered much worse withdrawl on less medication and much less withdrawl on more powerful meds. Everyone is different.

I don't have very addictive tendencies, once I get away from the substance and whatnot I can usually stay away with some effort(sometimes a lot, sometimes a little) on my part. I seem to be blessed in that area. Everyone is different.

I don't ever suggest trying to trivialize someone elses suffering, they may be going through complete hell.

and no, Ultram is not an opiate, but I have seen some viscious cases of withdrawl from that drug.


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Old 02-17-2003, 03:50 PM   #7
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oh, i might add that I came into possession of about 30 darvocet curtousy of a family member not needing them after surgery. I took them when I was having a bad time with my back and found that drug to be the most addicting out of the 5 or 6 pain meds I have taken in the last couple of years(codeine, lorcet, vicoden, darvocet and ultram).
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Old 02-18-2003, 05:38 PM   #8
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Lorcet and Vicodin should help back pain...Darvocet is a waste of money and time and Codeine? Codeine is a tease!!
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Old 02-18-2003, 06:01 PM   #9
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OMG everyone, DARVON is a NARCOTIC it has the same chemical make up of METHADONE,, uh DUH you think it is addictive?????????
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Old 02-18-2003, 08:36 PM   #10
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To the person that said Ultram is not addicitng. God you are wrong. I have been through detox for Ultram( 1 time last year) and am going again tomorrow. Ultram does not even begin to start affecting you until 2 to 3 hrs., after you take it and stays in the body for an extremely long time. It is a synthetic opiate. It attaches to the nerve reseptors and stops pain just like Lorcet, Lortab or anything. Ultram is bad because medical people think it is a anti-inflamatory. I would never want ANYONE to go through Ultram detox. It is a horrible physical dependance worse then anything. Ultram stays in your body a lot longer then any narcotic therefore making it harder to get out of your body. When I first got hooked 2 Ultram gave me energy and a high almost all day. I know that it wirked so well they use it in Europe to trat depression. Believe me, you take it, you will NOT be depressed. If you do not beleive me, try 2 pills at one time, and wait 2 to 3 hours. I promise you that will you wil have energy and a high like never before. Do not take anymore. I wold not want you to get hooked. It is so easy too.

I just want you and everyone to see how bad Ultram is and how easy it is to get. Shoot, hit search on your PC, type in Ultram and you will come up with tons of places that will sell it to you. That is the bad part. These places need to be shut down but they can ship Ultram, Soma and Fioricet because they are not considered a contorlled substance. Now Soma and Fioricet are controlled in a few states but Ultram is not controlled in any state as of yet. There is just so much ignorance about this drug and people do not familiarize themselves with the potentioals od addiction it has. People just have to learn that Ultram ( Tramadol is the generic name) is an adcitive synthtic opiate. Synthetic opiates are as bad as any. There is even Nalbulaine that you can order now. That is bad as well. I hope that you wise up and do not let yourself think Ultram is not bad. If you get hooked on it, there is pure H*** to pay getting off.

Any pain killer is not addicitve IF it is taken properly but addicts take much more then prescribed and as thier tolerance grows so does the need for more pill. I do not think they need to ban pain meds because some people truly need it but I think it needs to be monitered by people with an abuse potential. Any more questions, heck there is very little I know. Good luck to the Darvocet addicted person. understand but hang in there, you CAN and WILL do it.
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