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Old 03-20-2003, 03:24 AM   #11
Dawn in NH
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Hey Again

Ya, I hear ya - I think we took over this thread. Didn't mean to! Oh well, at this point, I wish others WOULD jump in, cuz frankly Bish, you just might be f*cked if you have no other resource other than your current doc.

I feel you on the tolerance issue. You're right, it doesn't take long for it to set in with the morphine, but I'm just not gonna suggest oxy's to anyone anymore simply because I don't wanna be responsible for them getting hooked on it, or even worse, ODing. If you didn't read Stacy Victor's post entitled "my husband died last night from an oxy overdose", please do. It's so damn sad. Also, I posted there, and revealed my own true story with oxy. Please read it if you haven't, and you'll see why I can no longer reccomend (sp?) it. My intake of it is insane, truly. I admitted sh*t in that post today that I've never told anyone, not even myself. I decided this morning that I'm gonna just stick to morphine. Truley Bish - please read what I wrote. It's really raw, and I was in tears of shame when I wrote it, but if it helps some other poor soul before thEy get hooked too, then it's worth the humiliation I feel.

Now, friend, what the hell to we do about you? Honestly, I'm at a loss. You said there's only one in your area, and it sucked? How big is your area. Are you willing to travel a bit to go to another clinic? I have friends that drive 50 - 100 miles to their pain docs. If not, then we're just gonna have to deal with your GP.

I don't know what to tell ya about asking him to put you on morph or oxy's without looking like a "seeker". All I can say is be honest. I mean at this point, what's left? Actually, I give both you and your doc credit. You were honest and gave him your true history (I would have omitted my addiction problems) and he wrote narcs for you even with his knowledge of your past. So, maybe you need to say "look doc, I'm getting tolerent to my meds, and we need to talk. I don't want to increase my daily intake without your approval, but my current schedule is not providing adequate relief. What do you think about a time released med? That way I take far less pills a day, and I have a more consistent level of relief. I'm having difficulty functioning throughout the day due to my pain".

Pick and choose what you want out of that conversation and go with it. The important thing is not to appear desperate, and don't name the med you're looking for. There are only a few options for time released meds.

I just had an epiphany!! What about methadone? I've heard it works awesome for pain, and stands up pretty well to the tolerence issue. My pharmacist suggested it to me when I told him my meds aren't doing sh*t for me anymore. God, why didn't I think of that before? Duh!! Even the old ladies inmy Fibromyalgia support group say it works for them. I've never used it, but now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I'll give that a shot. My GP is awesome. In the 10 years I've been seeing him, he's never said no to anything I suggested. When I couldn't afford the oxy's anymore, (no insurance) I asked him to switch to morphine cuz it was so much cheaper. He sinply said "ya, I can do that" without a second thought. That was two years ago. Methadone is even cheaper.

So, what do you think? Before I ramble on even more, I'll stop and get your thoughts so far.

Did you see the post from the PHd researcher? She's doing a study on heroin addicts, and why they seek help. She wants to know what makes them go get help. I left her a semi-sarcastic response. I don't know. I think it's kinda cheesy to come to an addiction board and drum up business for her research. I don't know - it just grates on me like an ambulance chasing lawyer.

Ok - it's 2:19 am of day 5 without sleep. If nothing else, I gotta get out of this damn chair before it becomes a permanent part of me.

Bish, please read my post in Stacy's thread about her husband dying from oxy. You told me more about yourself. Go over to that one and check out the real me. At least you'll see why I'm quitting the oxy's.

Good night and take care - D

[This message has been edited by Dawn in NH (edited 03-20-2003).]
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Old 03-21-2003, 11:28 PM   #12
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Hey Bish -

Still looking for you, so I'm writing again to push this toward the top of the heap. Don't want it to get lost at the bottom where you won't see it.

Hope you're doing ok - where'd ya go???

Dawn
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Old 03-26-2003, 09:59 PM   #13
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I recently have had a major maxofilial surgery including bone graph's from my jaw to my gums. I have been on percocet for the last 2 months and i recently ran out of pills and was denied a refill. I feel like ****, i am constantly feverous and tired. I have a sore throat and a runny nose. How long will this last and do i need to get professional help? What can I do to alleviate this fatigue?

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Old 03-27-2003, 10:32 AM   #14
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Hope I am not butting into a great thread here but here it goes. I have chronic back pain and was taking way too much vicodin for too long. All those 5/325 and so on have some form of ibufrofin or tylynol that will ruin your liver if taken for too long. My new doc put me on oxy 10 mg 2x day and I can honestly say that I am better for it. I don't abuse it and it is better for my liver than all the pain meds I was taking. It doesn't consume my life anymore...do I have enough pills before my next refill? Now there is no worry and if taken as perscribed it is safe. I have researched it thoughly and the people who overdose are the ones that crush che snort and inject. I don't get ahigh off of them but it takes my pain away. I finally feel like I can function again. Hope that helps.
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Old 03-27-2003, 01:29 PM   #15
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I have been on percocet for the better part of 2 years for a chronic TMJ condition but not untill after spending 10 years experimenting with all the NSAIDS my doc could give me. There was Naproxen, Celebrex, Vioxx, Arthrotec, Advil you name it. Only after they did damage to my stomach did my Doctor put me on narcotics first stop was tylenol 3's they didnt work too well and when I had to start taking 2 my Doc put me on Percocet 5/325. After about a year and a half of this he suggested Oxycontin. I take 20mg twice a day and I have the percocet for breakthrough pain. Bishop I know you were asking how to approach your Doc about these? Well you could use the Tylenol factor this is what made my Doc suggest them to me I was taking too much tylenol. I have not had a problem with the Oxys at all. They dont kill all the pain but then again what painkiller does? As long as I have quality of life I am more than happy. There is a surgery that " might" help my jaw condition with long physical therapy after but after reading what my friends on the TMJ board I dont know if its the best idea. I have read Stacys post as well and he had to be abusing them very badly for this to happen because taking them as directed doesnt kill you. She also said he had been clean for 3 months therefore his body wasnt even used to the dose he took before quitting and he was ok...he was like a narcotic virgin again for lack of a better word and that dose killed him because his body was no longer tolerant. I hope the ones that abuse the oxy or think about it will read her post before they do because thats why she posted it to help someone else not suffer the fate of her husband. God bless you all, may he give everyone the strength to fight thier demons.
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