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Old 11-16-2003, 12:36 AM   #1
maxjasper
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Diuretics Drain my Potassium

Diuretic medications like Lozide, Dyazide, Atacand Plus, drain my blood potassium. When my doc switched me from Atacand Plus to Dyazide, he and the pharmacist warned me not to use APO-K potassium tablets because, they said, Dyazide contains potassium-sparing ingredient. However, after several blood tests my doc prescribed 600, 1200, 1800 mg/day of APO-K potassium tablets!!! How much can we trust pharmaceutical informations all claiming that Dyazide increases blood potassium!
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Old 11-16-2003, 12:57 AM   #2
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Hi maxjasper-
I think the pharm companies are very careful to cover their a** by using the words "may" and "possiblity" and "potential for" etc.
I was on Dyazide at one time in the past and my potassium levels plunged. I was feeling horrendous. Abject exhaustion and weakness. So my doctor prescribed potassium supplements, to be added to my Dyazide regimen. Two weeks later, still feeling awful, blood tests showed that my potassium levels STILL hadn't budged upward, even with supplementation! Obviously the potassium-sparing agent in many diuretics doesn't always help.

I am now a very happy angiotension2 receptor blocker FAN.

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Old 11-16-2003, 01:31 AM   #3
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Hi Zuzu,

Unfortunately, neither Attacand nor AtacandPlus (Angi II) [both with Norvasc] had much effect on lowering my BP, so doc switched them to Dyazide.

Which one are you using now?

Max.

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Old 11-16-2003, 05:32 AM   #4
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Hi, Max

I have recently been researching Spironolactone, which is a diuretic that works in a very different way from many of the other diruetics. It is of an older class of drugs which many doctors fail to address in their practice of medicine, probably in favor of a "newer is better" mentality.

If you have a tendency to drop K, there is a possibility you are high in the hormone aldosterone. If your aldosterone is high, many blood pressure meds like Norvasc (I had one cardiologist who refused to believe that I did not respond to Norvasc, and said he has never seen a patient in thousands who does not--but I don't) simply won't touch it. Spironolactone is a diuretic that also works as an aldosterone blockade and is very specific to an elevation in aldosterone, which is apparently unusual in the general population. Spironolactone is usually prescribed for heart failure, but I have been doing research on it and it is known to regulate HTN and I have not found any reason it cannot be used to regulate blood pressure in the small population that is resistant to usual attempts to manage blood pressure.

If your HTN responds to spironolactone, have your doctors consider whether your hypertension might be secondary to another condition which elevates your aldosterone. There are tests (of course!) they can do for this.

If you are a man, you might try a new diuretic called eplerenone, which works like spironolactone but does not have some of the side effects that men find difficult to tolerate.

Here is some information from the CHFpatients site. This little article was contributed to the site quite a while ago. I believe this drug is well out of clinical trials by now:

"Aldosterone is the final product of the RAS :
Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone systemS). It is a mineral-
corticoid hormone that helps maintain electrolyte balance.
Although ACE inhibitors and ARBs suppress the RAS, they
do not completely control blood levels of aldosterone.
Spironolactone does control blood aldosterone levels but
due to its uncontrolled binding to other steroid receptors
it causes unwelcome side effects.
Eplerenone - the first of a new class of drugs
called SARAs (Selective Aldosterone Receptor Antagonists) -
is being tested.
In phase 2 trials, eplerenone controlled blood
pressure with once or twice daily dosing, and was safe and
well tolerated in CHF patients already taking standard CHF
drugs. Ongoing phase 3 trials are underway.

Title: Eplerenone: a selective aldosterone receptor antagonist
Authors: Delyani JA, Rocha R, Cook CS, Tobert DS, Levin S,
Roniker B, Workman DL, Sing Yl, Whelihan B.
E-mail: [email]john.a.delyani@pharmacia.com[/email]
Source: Cardiovasc Drug Rev 2001 Autumn;19(3):185-200
PMID: 11607037"
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Old 11-16-2003, 07:24 AM   #5
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Max- After spirlhelix's fascinating post, just a quick answer to your question about which ARB I'm on...straight Diovan 160mg once a day. I'm one of the fortunate ones who does well (for the nonce!) w/o diuretics. It's too bad Atacand and Atacand+ wasn't helpful for you, since,of the ARBs the word on Atacand is that it has somewhat better blood-pressure lowering effects than Diovan. How's your BP (and serum potassium) now on the Dyazide, Norvasc and K supps?

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