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Old 12-08-2003, 03:16 AM   #1
joeh
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HORMONES are the cause of acne

hormones are the cause of acne.if you want to get rid of acne get rid of your hormone production.male sex hormone is the cause of acne and body hair in humans.other names for this are androgens,testosterone.if you want to take it to the extreme get rid of your reproductive organs.and stay on spiro in case your adrenal gland is still producing some.i might do that but i dont think anyone else has to go that far.on diet.............almost everyone in america eats way too much junk if they have acne or not.if a certain diet helps your skin then do it.then we wouldnt need an acne board anymore.some of us might not be eating bad but are suffering because are parents and grandparents ate crap.
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Old 12-08-2003, 03:28 AM   #2
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Re: HORMONES are the cause of acne

haha, geez joeh. Come on. You know hormone imbalance is a symptom as well as a cause, like bacteria, like zinc deficiency etc. If you want to get rid of acne, give your body what it needs to maintain and balance your hormones. Give your body what it needs for proper skin health. Get rid of your reproductive organs? Why would you do that if you haven't tried the diet?
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Old 12-08-2003, 04:34 AM   #3
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Re: HORMONES are the cause of acne

ok i can agree with hormone imbalance if you mean i have too much androgens for my body.so whats the difference if i suppress it with an anti-androgen.....spiro or with diet....im still going to end up sterol.maybe with a female the diet would help but for me it wouldnt unless it works as an anti-androgen.yes boys start at puberty with a hormonal imbalance so thats why they break out until their body adjusts to its hormones.mine did not.my body structure is more female than male.i got mistakin for a girl a lot of times.when i was 34 a girl i worked for said i look like a 5 year old boy.my body will never adjust to its hormones.....well maybe when im sterol or 60 and sterol.well maybe i should have been a girl.this would have been an improvment over 27 years of this crap just cause my body didnt develope right.maybe i should go on a tv show like jenny jones.when i started to get hair on my body i freaked out.....when i got acne i freaked out.mainly i had too much hair and too much acne for my body.yea i have a hormonal imbalance but i dont think diet was the cause.its like my mind is functioning female like but my sexual preferance is female.it kinda sucks cause you really never quite fit in with the guys or the girls....your always inbetween.i cant get shoved over to the male side because i have to much testosterone now so i guess i decided to get shoved over to the female side mainly because i had it with boils,cysts.remember nobody here is taking what im taking.this is why i think girls have acne.......they either arnt producing enough estrogen to balance out with their androgens or they are producing too many androgens.well lets just say me and a ton of girls have the same problem.diet isnt going to change my bone structure.
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Old 12-08-2003, 03:20 PM   #4
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Re: HORMONES are the cause of acne

Joeh,

The name of the condition you are referring to is called Hirsutism. An overproduction of male hormones can come from two different places: either your pituitary gland or your adrenal gland. Beware of any doctor who does not do the necessary blood tests to see which gland in not functioning properly. You need to determine this is order to be placed on the appropriate medicine.

Some people, like in my case, were born with it. Others can develop it.

If any of you readers do research on Hirsutism and you feel you may have it, you need to seek out the help of an Endocrinologist. I went to many dermatologists and general practice doctors from the age of 12 to about 23 and all tried to treat the acne and not get to the root of why the acne was occuring.

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Old 12-08-2003, 03:53 PM   #5
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Re: HORMONES are the cause of acne

Joeh,
NO, please don't think like that. You will NOT end up sterol if you suppress your hormones through diet. That's because you will actually be working on balancing them, and whatever nutrients your body wasn't able to convert, produce, or absorb, will now have a much better opportunity to do so.

I understand that you don't want to drop your current regimen. Trust me I do. I stayed on Avandia for several months after changing my diet. Then I thought it might be causing me some problems (like how the estrogen might be affecting your moods now) and so I stopped it. While SCIENCE and other Former Acne Sufferers TESTIMONIES said that changing your diet to a Hormonal Balancing Diet one would clear you, I was still soo afraid that I was going to breakout. I was in the midst of my Breakout Cycle and .....nothing bad happened. 1 Month past, 2 months past, 3 and so forth until finally more than a year has past. Heck I don't even take Spiro as often as I used to. Maybe I will take it for a whole week, other times not for 2 weeks. It varies. I was never perfect on the spiro once I realized that it didn't have as BIG of an effect as I was hoping. The main reason I still keep it (haven't refilled my prescription yet) is because of the mild hirsutism that I KNOW it has helped. Yet, if I perfect my diet (one of these days) that should be reduced even more so than it already has through changing my diet.

I just don't want you to limit your OPTIONS. I wish I knew how diet could effect our self-esteem, but all I know is that carbohydrates can make people feel more Hyperactive, Depressed, Cloudy, and/or Fatigued. So dropping some of them MAY help improve your mood some. Just like you are thrilled as can be and are shouting your Remedy all over the board, that's how happy I am. It feels even better to know that it wasnt' because of medication. Prior to me going off of the Avandia, since I wasn't certain about my diet, I was soo hesitant about wanting to bring children into this world with my genes. Now, I still don't want to put my body through that for all the kids I want to have (probably adopt some), but now I'm so confident in KNOWING that I can handle the whole psychotic pregnancy as well as being able to provide the knowledge, etc neccessary to help my future kids overcome (prevent) any such hormonal problems from happening to them. It feel soooo amazing.

It's the FREEDOM that I get from knowing that I'm not tied down by any medication or supplement. That's good to know because what if one day you cant afford them or the supplements become overRegulated by the govt. and what was once affordable is now beyond what you could afford. I suppose the same fear exists when you think of the foods we eat, in terms of GMO foods and Pollution, but what I do know is more and more governement officials, doctors, scientists, and even resturants are recognizing the EFFECTIVENESS of a Low Carbohydrate Diet! I don't ever see this as something dying or as some sort of fad, because there are way too many books and way too many Low Carb Diets, for their not to be some truth (and there is) to these diets. The problem is what is the RIGHT low Carb diet. There are some bad ones out there and there are some VERY good ones.

So now I'm starting to look at other aspects of nutrient deffiency to see why my hair doesn't like to grow or stick around very long (on my head). I started developing dandruff 2 years ago and I've ALWAYS had dry hair. Of course doing some research last night it started to make sense. While I have the whole hormonal DHT reason for the problem, its' also because I'm EFA defficient. I've always had Dry skin, with the exception of my face (used to be very oily) and upper body. Then last night while I was deep conditioning my hair I started to think about the things that my body responds to best, that's usually natural products. It's usually products that naturally contain EFAs like Shea butter, Olive Oil, Safflower Oil, Jojoba Oil etc. These were things that absorb into my hair and skin and made them both very happy.

So upon doing research, I found out that through the introduction of Partially Hydrogenated or Hydrogenated oils/Transfatty Acids in the 1940s, not only increased Insulin Resistance (these altered/Abnormal fats--alter proteins--alter insulin--cells don't recognize this Abnormal Insulin--increases productiong of More Insulin--increases production of more MALE hormones, etc) and other diseases that are a result (coronary heart disease, obesity, non-insulin dependent diabetes, TypeII) but they also PREVENT conversion of Omega 3 (most people are defficient in this one) and Omega 6 oils in the body by denaturing the enzymes neccessary for conversion, thus INCREASING one's fatty acid deficiency. That's a good example of how Foods, or the Wrong foods (usually altered) can become ENZYME INHIBITORS and consquently increase your nutrient defficiencies and hormonal imbalance. These Bad oils I've decreased consumption of, but I haven't made it my goal to eliminate 100% because its HARDER to eliminate these (and still eat ready made food) than it was to Eliminate Wheat/Gluten (that's in 90% of ready-made foods). Again, I've known the answers, but I didn't fully understand the right way of accomplishing my goal (thank you Sunfell). So now that's something I need to work on ;-)

Hey Sunfell, do you know of any good EFAs supplements. I would take these things religiously but I have trouble swallowing the large capsules. Know of any brands with smaller capsules or a good tasting liquid brand?

Thanks

P.S., Some FYIs:
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_u ids=7910281&dopt=Abstract[/url]

[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_u ids=8001841&dopt=Abstract[/url]

but the Scientific studies are still rather up and down on this issue. Are Partially Hydrogenated Oils safer than Hydrogenated? Would it also depend on the kind of oil that's been altered? Not to mention wether or not these oils contain pesticides. Until they figure it out, I guess avoiding as much as possible and seeing what happens is one's best bet.

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