Giving Up On Trazodone !!!! - Page 3

yinksy · 01-04-2004, 06:23 PM

Hello Kinda-unwell,
Nice to hear from you. You have made an astoundingly good recovery, I think! I suspected that the pain pills would have been the easiest to get off - all over in 5 to 7 days - but I really thought you might have more trouble with the benzos. But you seem to have a well clued up doctor? So you are free now of all the benzos from ativan to xanax etc. WONDERFUL! Only the celexa to taper off now. Well, Kindaunwell - you have done pure dead brill! (as we say here!). My only warning is: its easy to get off but much more difficult to stay off! How about some sort of support group - like NA?AA or any addiction group?
Its so good that you are not having insomnia (from which I suffer from time to time) - as it is so depressing.
Hey kindaunwell - yours is a wonderful and inspiring story - you will help so many on these boards.
I wish you just all you wish for yourself in this coming year!
yinksy

kindaunwell · 01-04-2004, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by yinksy

Hello Kinda-unwell,
Nice to hear from you. You have made an astoundingly good recovery, I think! I suspected that the pain pills would have been the easiest to get off - all over in 5 to 7 days - but I really thought you might have more trouble with the benzos. But you seem to have a well clued up doctor? So you are free now of all the benzos from ativan to xanax etc. WONDERFUL! Only the celexa to taper off now. Well, Kindaunwell - you have done pure dead brill! (as we say here!). My only warning is: its easy to get off but much more difficult to stay off! How about some sort of support group - like NA?AA or any addiction group?
Its so good that you are not having insomnia (from which I suffer from time to time) - as it is so depressing.
Hey kindaunwell - yours is a wonderful and inspiring story - you will help so many on these boards.
I wish you just all you wish for yourself in this coming year!
yinksy

HI yinksy,
So kind of you to reply so fast!! Is it late over there in the U.K., or are you having another "insomnia" night???
I know exactly what you mean when you say the physical withdrawals hurt bad enough, to get them over with, but even if you're lucky enough to have a good and slow taper, like me >>>>> the hardest part comes now (and maybe for always) , when it comes down to having strong willpower!!! Even though it has been about 35 days since I came off Pain Pills(a 5 day de-tox in hospital) they gave me 3 times day something called a Methadone Cocktail with some other stuff added to it that the doctor wouldn't tell me what it was because he said he was in the process of "pattening(sp) it. The first day or two ,I still needed a couple shots of Demerol(low dosage, i'm sure), but by the fourth and fifth day ,I was walking around the hospital like I own it(ha,ha) I even was taking two showers a day , shaving clean-faced, and even helping the staff when they would let me.The doctor released me with a script for 5 day wean-down to come off the methadone , and I had no physical problems....But as you said ,Once in a while I think about the high I use to get from the hydros, mostly the oxycontins, and even the Fentanal patches(at one point I got a double script for 50ug/h and 75ug/h, and I use to cut the 75's open and suck and lick all that 72 hour medicine out all at once!<< Boy did that ever send me on a Rush and knock me down on my butt!!<<<I think of it now and it makes me sick...) . But whenever those "bad thoughts" comes, I make myself busy (exercise if possible) and they pass soon enough. Besides ,I seem to have found a new kind of 'High" called Life, and I really am enjoying it!!!
I know ,as you said, I probally should be attending
some type of N/A meetings ,but I don't know if I would fit in there.I'm basically quiet(except on the Web, as you can see by the lengths of my posts,ha,ha) but maybe I should look into it. Its hard to tell people you love,and may have hurted durring my drug years, how I feel and weather or not they CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND.
Sometimes it takes a "FORMER" druggie to know "EXACTLY" how and what I feel, and what kind of emotions I am still feeling. YEAH, maybe I just might go to one of them meetings afterall???.......

Anyway yinksy, "thanks" for responding to me. You must be "one of the Good Guys (GALS) from the other side of the "POND" !!!
Take Care,and feel free to post me whenever you feel like it.....

Kinda-unwell

Smile4uhun · 01-06-2004, 02:52 PM

I have serious insomnia problems, I am bi-polar and manic depressive, and take Trazodone...I am on 300 mgs. a night, but in the past was on 500 mgs. a night (I stopped taking it for a few years). Trazodone as explained by both Pscyhiatrist and PCP is NON addictive and can be raised. Discuss your situation with your healthcare provider.

Ambien is for short term usage. I was on that when I first started back getting help after thinking I was fine with the all of the above mentioned. Ambien is also HIGHLY addictive. It stops working and can have reverse effects, I believe that is also mentioned in the pamphlet that comes with the medication. Please talk to Dr. about raising the Trazodone...don't go with the Ambien.

Smile4uhun · 01-06-2004, 02:58 PM

or Adivan for long term if Dr. gives you more. I am on Adivan 1 mg. for nerves and stress, it doesn't make me sleepy. It just calms me, however, my Psychiatrist already told me that she will not give it to me long term bc of of the addictive nature of the drug. I am not dependent on it as a 8 day supply will last me weeks, simply bc I fear addiction. I am already having some other major health issues and am on a bunch of meds...so I try to use it only if I am extremely stressed or starting rage (bi-polar, manic).

kindaunwell · 01-06-2004, 05:27 PM

Hi, Smile4uhun

I hope you are doing well today!!
My medical(Drugs Too) history began near the end of 1999, when I started feeling my sioctic nerve beginning to go down from my lumbar region(L5/S1) to my left calf. I went to the ortho, he proscribed vicoden 5's, and had an MRI done. BAM!!!>>>> I had herniated the disc. As the pain kept getting worse, the drug dossage kept going up also, just to control the pain. Anyway to make this short, I had 2 Spinal operations that were only partially successful. By the time 2003 came around, there was nothing more that could be done,surgically, so I was just given physical therapy and lots and lots of pain medication>>>like oxycontin (40mg. 3x aday) oxy IR for breakthrough pain , the fentenal patches( 50's, 75's ug/h) xanax,>> plus so much more I can't recall them all.End of this sad sob story>>>> it took most of the year, a 5 day de-tox at a hospital 6 weeks ago,and finally my opiate drug problems were finished. But I started showing signs of depression, anxiety, and insomnia. I would be awake for 30 something hours, fall asleep for only 2-3 hours and then another 30 something hours awake and so on and so on. They tried me on the herbal stuff,Ambien, xanax(again!) Kolonopin, and Trazodone. Nothing changed a thing. And sometimes, it felt like those meds (not all taken together, of course!) would get me even more wired up!! It took me a 21 day "wean-down" to stop them all.That went smooth enough for me, but the insomnia was still constantly going on. I've never had insomnia before, and I don't have any sleep disorders. Thats when my Pain Doctor deceided to try me on a 5 day trial of Ativan. Take 2 pills right before what would be considered normal sleeping time (11:00 PM). Each pill is 1 mg.
And BAM!! I started sleeping a normal 8 hours. Like you, I am "very affraid" of having another addiction. But what am I to do?
When they ran out saturday night into Sunday, I went back to the herbal teas and melontonin, But I've only got about 3 hours sleep in the last two days (again!!!).
Even as I am posting to you, I am deceiding if I should call the Doctor and ask for another 5 day script(?????).
Well,Smile4uhun, thats my story (or dilemma). I got a feeling I'm gonna call him, because my body is exhausted, but my mind just keeps racing along... After all the "other trials" I have been through and beaten, I can't believe This is gonna start all over again....
I've written enough, Sorry my post was soo long. Sometimes I have to write all this stuff out, because I won't let my wife and family know how much this insomnia is really killing me. I just tell them its a normal reaction from my past drug ussage, that it will stop soon, and that it doesn't really bother me-- I feel great. On the other side of the coin, I really do feel good about being able to stop all other drug ussage, and can handle my back pain. Life is crazy,sometimes...
Okay Smile4uhun, thats it!
If you feel like it, you can post back to me anytime. I'll probably be awake!!!!! ha,ha.../...

Kinda- unwell (sometimes)....