Chef?

[User 205000]

Originally Posted by chefob1

talk to your doc about meds that could help....there are more than i knew that are there that can do the job alot better than what we were usin.....use good sound judgement....

Chef, just out of curiosity, what meds are you describing? In am into the second week of no opiates, however, my back pain is rearing its ugly head, after 10 years of dormancy with the Lortab. I am only taking ibuprofin, clonidine, and trazodone now, based on my doctor's advice. I was given some lidocain patches for the back, but they seem ineffective for deep disc pain. I am assuming what you are referring to is non-narcotic and non-addictive. Thanks

[feelbad]

Hi yinksy, i hope you don't mind my butting in here,but exactly what type of pain are you trying to manage?Depending on the type of pain and whats causing it, there are a whole lot of different ways to treat other than with the use of narcotics.If you are interested, i could go through all of my "pain stuff" and see if there might be an answer for you?you have no idea of the amount of research i have done and accumulated just in the last few years.
There really is quite an amazing array of medications availiable to treat pain now that they never would have thought of in the past. along with the elavil, there are other tricyclics that are used such as nortryptaline(sp).I have been on a couple of different anti seizure meds to treat my nerve pain for the past few years now.They are actually the first line of defense when treating nerve pain.You are very right in doing your research before trying anything.i used to spend hours at the library researching my conditions and the best ways to treat before I finally got onto the net.The information that i have been able to get on here is absolutely amazing.I came across an article one day that really suprised me.They are now in the marketing phase of a new drug to treat pain that is called ziconotide? it is made from,get this, snail venom!I never knew snails had venom but i guess this particular type of snail is called a sea snail?I have no clue as to how they ever came up with this one but go figure.If you want a little help here, i would be more than happy to try and help you.I am always willing to lend a hand to a fellow pain sufferer.Being in pain just plain sucks.if you need me,just give me a holler. Take care y. Marcia

[chefob1]

i personnaly am on 60mg of methadone for chronic back pain and addiction.....i started using drugs,pot,ect back in 1973 i beleive and then in 1983 i was 24 and got my first job as executive chef...some of my crew got me snortin heroin...at tghe time i didnt know it was...i was told it was coke and some downers or somethin like that...went on methadone at a clinic for a year to beat the disease and did....so i used recreationally first...then in 1990 i was in a accident with my back...ive got lower back problems...no surgery but down the road i may have too...my symptoms now are intense lower back pain inyto the legs...it has progressively gotten worse over the years..never took care of it properly when i had the accident...well they put me on hydrocodone in 1990 and it was to Oz ever since....with the exception that it started with gettin a script of 30 and following directions and i would feel good after takin two of them...it got too a point i was buying em off the street for 5,6,8,10 bucks a piece to takin 50 at a time...my tolerance level went way up there...then it became cheaper unfortunately imet a heroin dude to buy the heroin than pay for the pills and the buzz was instant... and it releived my back pain...i was a closet addict...wife,friends never new but suspected.....went on bupenorphine to quit the heroin...my dealer was shot/killed so i could get off heroin fast there.....but then my wife found out,life got ugly,i was in the process of buildin a 300,000 house which my ex-wife now lives in with my two girls 9/12.....they know dad had a drug problem...im crushed...lost my job everything ther for awhile...met my current girlfriend at my last country club job and we bought a 80 seat cafe we both work it and im on my methadone doin good...i hit a/a mtgs every week...work every day but wed. from 6am to 9pm.....so my back sometimes has exasepations......my doc is a recovering opiate addict too and a good friend...he writes my script for meth evry week and he runs a huge dtox/treatment center near wher i live....hes the main big honcho with other docs under him...looks like a hippie but knows his crap when it comes to addictions since he was one too....hes helped me tremendously...i have to go in and have a mri and then ill deal with my addiction if i can....he has told me of different meds that will help with the pain...neurontin,elavil,neurological meds since if its pain in the brain or pain you cant control,opiates wont help anyways....ibuprofin is good..trazadone will help only with the sleep and it is a anti-depressant...clonidine will help with the pain too since it goes to the central brain station that deals with pain and also will help with w/d's..take away the flushes,skin crawlin,goosebumps and will help your blood pressure since it goes up when detoxing from opiates plus an added effect of sleep at night......i would have made the marriage work if i didnt use bupenorphine..5 years ago if i went on the methadone instead id still be married...the bupe came at that time only injectable and they gave me benzos which made me make worse decisions...gotta run...chef

[yinksy]

Aye chef - yes - posts all here - my addiction had been with benzos - ativan - did an 8 month taper off.......................... in the ********* forum.
other issue - pain - smashed a foot 4 years ago - injuries which cannot heal - was taking too much codeine..................
not taking anything just now....
enough info?
y
no - that's not true - taking anti-inflammatories only - but could do with something more effective sometimes. Sitting it out just now.

[chefob1]

ive taken valium,xanies the whole kit and kaboodle but was never dependant on them.....what were your w/d's......i hear that they are harsh.....