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Old 04-24-2007, 09:14 AM   #1
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Good morning all.......I had the pleasure of being very clear headed on vacation which left me open to seeing different people clearly, perspectives and thoughts so I thought I would share. There were two different siutations that stick clearly in my mind.
1) I met a lovely woman sitting in the pool. Her, Hubby and I clicked very quickly. She had alot to say (very negative) about her relationship with her daughter who she was traveling with. The daughter is 30, has her Masters, is married and travels a couple of times a year with her mother since the father has no interest. Ran into her again the morning we were leaving so we had breakfast with her and I had the opportunity to meet her daughter. By the end of breakfast the mother was crying, not because of anything the daughter said to hurt her but because all of her issues were coming out. And she has several but will not accept them. She just goes on unhappily living with them. Her daughter I felt was very kind in trying to bring her mother out, help her through this and to see that she can conquer certain things. The mother refuses. She wishes to remain as she is. Two different perspectives and I guess being an outsider I saw them both very clearly. The daughter has become the mother and the mother the daughter. Very sad as I wish i would have gotten her address. She thinks her daughter is mean and what I saw was a loving daughter trying to help her mother to "come out" of her fears and live happily. Just my opinion as I don't know either well enough.

2) My grandchildren, more so my granddaughter, are very sensitive children. Neither are bulllies, love life, but their feelings are hurt very easily. Grandson tends to go with the flow even if it bothers him at times and wants to whack some nasty kid. Granddaughter is the opposite. She crawls inside herself. My youngest spent the weekend with them and told her older sister that she feels her neice needs some counseling now as she gets angry, sad, frustrated and somewhat down when embarrased or hurt. I had the opportunity to talk to my oldest when I got home last night and she was a little upset that her sister thought her kids needed counseling. I was very able to put it a different way and explained to her that I was never taught coping skillls as a child so how could I teach my kids and how could they in turn teach theirs. I feel that's what both of these children need is coping skills. I am just learning them at 53 and told my daughter so. I tried to explain to her that her children have the right and deserve to know how to get out of these feelings quickly and know how to cope with hurtful happenings instead as in the case of my granddaughter if someone hurts her feelings early in the morning she will have a bad rest of the day. Not fair to her. She tends to dwell on it. Someone has to break the cycle. We are all very sensitive, kind, gentle people and we all know that people like that sometimes have a tendency to be walked on. My daughter took what I was saying much better and understood. There is know reason these children have to grow up with the hurt of being offended easily because of their sensitivity and not know how to deal with it and walk away, but at this point my daughters and myself are still struggling with our own. I would like her to seek counseling so she can learn how to break the cycle, and learn skills to teach her children so they don't end up like me someday at 53 just learning how to build boundaries. I can already see it in both of them.

Just my tidbit for the day. I found it very interesting to see others perspectives on the same situations and found I am open to others views though they may not be mine. Taking it slow and listening has really helped. They are still all valid just as mine are.

I hope all are well. Looks like I have alot of laundry and reading to do today. I guess I'll hop from the wahser to the boards all day.

Love to all,
Grasshopper

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Old 04-24-2007, 09:44 AM   #2
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Re: Breaking the cycle, perspectives, mother/daughter relationships

ICC, I have to teach my girls constantly about standing up for themselves, social skills, etc. Like you, I was taught nothing about this stuff and had to learn it as an adult. We are certainly not born knowing this stuff. I am so glad that my girls come home and tell me what is going on with them so that we can talk about the situations. I just have to share this story please!

My youngest is sssoooo sensitive. She is so sensitive that it affects her health (previously if she got upset she would start coughing and spasming/choking like with asthma - she is my daughter who had all the food allergies which the alternative doctor attributed a lot to her emotional sensitivity and he worked on this facet of her personality to heal her). Anyway, her kindergarten teacher went out on maternity leave the beginning of April and a subteacher, with a reputation which preceeds her, took over. This teacher started to rip papers away from the kindergarteners in my daughter's class and wad them up for simple mistakes! After one week I saw my daughter decompensate emotionally and she started the upset/coughing/choking again. Ohhhh, the mother bear came out in me. No one was going to mess with the health of my previously very sick but recovered now, sensitive child. I strategized that evening. The next morning I called the school and talked to the teacher. Very calmly I discussed this with her telling her that my very sensitive child was being very affected by this and that what she was doing was very scary to a kindergartener who was just learning. She never got defensive and apoligized. My daughter came home from school so happy. She knew I was going to call the teacher. This teacher reformed! My daughter started a burst of creativity that Friday evening which spanned the whole weekend. I have never seen my daughter so creative in her life. We have been working on her sensitivity her whole life and she had not really relaxed since she started kindergarten because she just hadn't felt comfortable there yet. Thanks for listening to my story.
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Old 04-24-2007, 12:02 PM   #3
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Absolutely Sannah! I hear you loud and clear. I just got off the phone with my daughter and we discussed boundaries. She works with both kids on a daily basis on this issue. They are really sweet, sensitive people. My grandson is 7 whose teacher said she feels for him since he is so popular all the kids want to play with him and is amazed at how he manages his time for such a young boy. BUT there are times that he will give another child his way just to shut him up. My daughter is working on that with him, teaching him how to say no once/twice and then walk away and just say " I don't want to play with you anymore" He's getting much better at it. My granddaughter is just soooooooooooooo very sensitive. All it takes is for her feelings to get hurt and she is sad all day. Needs some work on getting over it quicker without her day being ruined. She is only 4 and also has multiple allergies, Connection???????? I suggested that my daughter pick up a book on bullying, teaching children how to stick up for themselves, shyness and sensitivity to help herself find the words. All will be OK I believe since we are aware now and hopefully will be able to break the cycle of dysfunction in our family.


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Old 04-24-2007, 12:26 PM   #4
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She is only 4 and also has multiple allergies, Connection????????
ICC, our alternative doctor (a D.O.) used to be a psychologist. I truly believe that my daughter's sensitivity affected her health. She used to be an emotional mess with terrible, terrible health and now she has grown in so many ways emotionally and has gotten so much stronger and she is in perfect health now. We did other health interventions also.
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:13 PM   #5
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Re: Breaking the cycle, perspectives, mother/daughter relationships

ICC,
Welcome back from vacation-land!! Hopefully, you are well rested and glad to be back!
I loved your perspective on your friend and her daughter - I thought it was very insightful.
Also, your advice to your daughter about counseling for her children is, in my opinion, good advice. You are right - if we never learned coping skills, how do we teach something that we don't know? Professionals are there to help us and we should take whatever help and advice we can get in order to help our kids.


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