To: Bandit1

[drs]

Bandit, I will gladly post what is being done with my good friend, in regards to the alternative to hep-C. But remember this, this person has not been rechecked, but I have read testimonies of others where the numbers were none existant in the blood after doing this program.

First off, tell me any health problems your husband has Now.

Blood pressure. Any heart conditions, and so on. OK? Take care, I'll be checking here for you reply. Diana

[drs]

I also wanted to add about this friend, that her symtoms have gotten alot better. Eyes are white for the first time she can remember, itching has decrease alot....and feels better overall, less panic attacks too. (hardly ever anymore) But I can't convince her yet to go and recheck her numbers...I wish she would though, I told her, it doesn't mean that she has to go on the med. for hep-c, just find out if her numbers are getting any better. She's so stubborn though. Diana

[bandit1]

drs,

Thanks for your time.

My husband has hep-C, genotype 1b. He's already done the riba/interferon combo route (not the peg.), but was a non-responder. I guess that was about a year ago. His gastro has said he doesn't think the peg. combo will work any better for him.

Anyway, he has a whole list of problems, besides the hep-c! About 25 years ago he hit his head at a construction site and ended up with a subderal hematoma. They thought he would never walk again. He managed to outsmart the doctors though! His only problem with that now is seizures, which are controlled by dilantin and a new drug out called keppra ( I call it the miracle drug, since the dilantin wasn't 100% effective!) He also has arthritis in his knees and in fact had a total knee replacement a couple of years ago in his right knee.

But, he is very thin, so he doesn't worry about the weight factor. His blood pressure is great - don't know about his cholesterol. He had his last liver biopsy in February - stage 2 grade 2 - which is no change from about 3 years ago. That's one good thing!

He's currently following Dr. Berkson's protocol - which doesn't get rid of the virus, but makes one's quality of life much improved.

He takes 1000mg Vitamin C x 2 (twice a day)
200mcg selenium x 2
400 iu Vitamin E x 2
600mg Calcium/vit.D x 2
250mg magnesium x 2
300mg alpha lipoic acid x 2
500mg carnitine x 2
450mg milk thistle x 2
75mg Co-enzyme Q10 x 1
1 multi-vitamin without iron
1 B100 complex vitamin

Hope this gives you enough info on him. Let me know if you need anything else.

[drs]

Wow bandit, I'm so impressed with his protocol, sounds like all the right things....with the diet that my friend is on, she's not taking in near enough nutrients as your hubby....but she's gotten some good results, she's just taking, the milk thistle and iodine extra, and the diet. You'll see why when I write it out for you.

But for right now I just have to sign off....I was going to post you the inforamation, but my friend I hadn't talk to in ages came on line and we talked way too long. I'll post back tomorrow....sorry I'm so bushed.
Diana

[drs]

I must say it sounds like you've been together a good long time...if so that's great.

What this diet requires is that he'll need to start cutting back the caffinated coffee. If he does drink it just start adding decafe to the grounds alittle each week, I have a grinder and would buy the decafe beans and grind them fresh, it taste alot better than the grounds. Now I hardly ever even have the decafe, and I used to drink a couple of pots of coffee daily, I don't even crave it anymore.

I'm doing this too...if you couldn't tell, not for hep-c, but for overall general health, and to keep my cholesterol down, along with a couple other reasons. It would be great for prevention for you to do with him also....he needs you to be healthy too!!!!(if you have health issues such as high blood pressure or heart problems, just increase the water and use the salt for foods only for starters.)

Along with cutting back the caffine, he'll need to start drinking water, not distilled but good quality, hopefully you have that on tap.

If he drinks water already...GREAT!!!
if not, just increase it by a cup weekly, or he'll feel like a slosh bucket all the time, the body forgets how to feel thirsty until it gets enough. (I wish I had asked you if he drinks water now, and if he's cut the caffine, I'm sure he's not drinking alcohol right? Not suppose to with hep-c...my friend is still drinking, like I said..stubborn girl!!!)

Once he's up to 9 glasses of water daily, he can start with the rest of the stuff.

You'll need to find a mineral based sea/salt...it must have alot of minerals in the label..I found 'Redmonds' sea/salt is good...took awhile to find a good kind.
This kind of salt doesn't have iodine in it so he'll need the iodine replacment. If you can find a really good quality kelp that should be fine. But for you (being a women) I would recommend taking Maca...It helps many of the women problems, and replaces iodine if needed by the body. He could take Maca for iodine replacment too. It's sold as a labido(spelling?) inhancer. But, its very good for iodine support. There's a very good article in the boards about it, if you want that article let me know.

So far you increase the water, decrease (until you quit using)caffine, alcohol,and any sugar substitutes, start using sea/salt on foods, and when you guys are up to 9cups a day....Start taking 1/2 teas. daily of the sea/salt...

1/4 teas. in a little water in the morning after the first 3 cups of water, and 1/4 teas. in the evening. (My friend says she craves the salt now...so do I..!!!)

Not too complicated, right? The sea/salt runs me 5 bucks a bag, and it lasts a good long time.

Reports have indicated, that taking a 1/4 teas. of the sea/salt per quart of water is the way to go...better results....but make sure to get to the 9 cups a day first, then a person can increase the water even more. Some days I drink 15cups, and take extra salt.

So in addition to the good salt, replacement and the daily iodine,
you'll need to get a daily supply of postassium, just a bannana, or an orange, would do for the day. Or a supplement at the end of the day if the food wasn't eaten with potassium in it. He's already getting the magnessium,which is needed for this diet, and a little calcium. A nice walk am and pm is really good for the brain to get the nutrients it needs. Strange sounding I know.
He is already getting the omega 3 and 6 with the Alpha-linolenic acid,(3) and the Linoleic acid(6). Which is needed.

The body is constintly trying to retain salt to keep the water in the body. It takes gradual incease of urine to pass the excess salt out of the system. So watch the input and the output of urine. The output should be the same as the input, before increasing the water. So an acurate measurment must be taken of both, if any type of swelling occurs with the eye lids, or legs,an increase of water should be proportionate to the out put of urine. Decrease the salt until the swelling goes down. The first thing that is taught for nurses is input and output of urine.

Sea/salt is a most essential ingredient of the body. In their order of importance, oxygen, water, salt and potassium rank as the primary elements for the survival of the human body. 27% of the salt content of the body is stored in the bones in the form of crystals. It is said that salt crystals are naturally used to make bones hard. So it makes sense that a salt deficiency in the body could be responsible for the development of osteoporosis. Salt is ultimately taken out of the bones to maintain it's vital normal levels in the blood.

Low salt intake will contribute to a build-up of acidity in some cells. High acidity in the cell can damage the DNA structure and can initiate the formation of some cancerous cells. Experiments have shown the quite a number of cancer patients show low levels of salt in the body. So this diet, can prevent or cut the chances of developing cancers in the body.

The precaution to keep in mind...is loss of salt from the body when water intake is increased and salt intake is not. After a few days of taking 8 to 10 glasses of water a day, you should begin to add salt to the diet. If you begin to feel muscle cramps at night, remember you are becoming salt deficiant. Cramps in unexcersised muscles often means salt shortage in the body. Also,dizziness and feelng faint might be indicators of salt and water shortages.

The rule of thumb is for every 10 cups of water(2quarts), youshould add to the diet 1/2 tea. of mineral based sea/salt per day. An average teas. can contain six grams of salt. So 1/2 half is 3grams. Of course, one should make sure that the kidneys are producing urine. Otherwise the body will swell up. If you feel your skin and ankles are beginning to swell, do not panic!!! Reduce the salt intake for a few days, but increase your water intake until the swelling disappears.
Then add it back into the diet.
You should also increase movements--exercise: muscle activity will draw the excess fluid into the blood circulation and some salt is then lost in perspiration and urine. Do not sit or stand too long in one postion.

As you can see I'm very interested in this subject...LOL

With this diet the rehydration process is at a all time high. If either of you have trouble drink the water just put a touch of the sea/salt on the tip of the tongue, the water tastes sweeter and goes down much better.

Also for aiding digestion, drink a cup of water 1 hour before meals, and wait about 1 1/2 after the meal for more water....this works good for people with hiatus hernia pain and any type of stomach pains like ulcers.

Do not take too much potassium daily, this will increase hisamine production and make it hard to breath, like asthma problems.

The color of the urine should be lite yellow to clear, after the vitimans have been taken it's pretty bright though. That's fine. You don't want dark or orange urine. That's a sign of dehydration.

Well I'm sure you get the picture...Even though this friend of mine(she doesn't want me to mention her name)is still drinking some alcohol, and has hep-c, she tries to get that water in to replace the water lost. Just 6 ounces of caffine or alcohol can deplete the body of up to 12 ounces of water, so keep that in mind. Any questions for you or about your hubby just post back. I would also enjoy hearing the progress reports.

I'm not to up on what all the tests are that are done for hep-c that you were talking about. But I got the jist of it. Good luck to you and yours. Diana



[This message has been edited by drs (edited 07-27-2002).]