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Old 12-29-2003, 11:42 AM   #1
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Is this just weariness?

I have been suspecting lately that my father in law may be having some serious memory issues but, I don't have the ability to know for sure if he is tired from the holidays or if we should discuss this further with him
My hubby and I are the only relatives close by. Recently another son called and said that he would be home for the holidays. Ever since my father in law found out that "Sam" was coming home, he has called my hubby Sam. He even went so far as to write Sam on all my hubby's gifts.
When Sam arrived, he told us how father in law couldn't get it straight when their flight was arriving and asked over and over and was still confused.
Before the holidays, he kept on saying how busy he was and couldn't manage to get anything done. Every day I talked to him the list remained the same but, he was working himself to exhaustion accomplishing nothing. I can honestly say I have been avoiding going to his house for fear of what I would find.
I finally bit the bullet and went to his house to help. There was so much junk and papers that it was starting to look like a fire hazard. He has kept store receipts from years back for fear he didn't subtract them from his account. He appears to be losing weight and told me he gets so busy he forgets to eat.
Now the thing that scares me the most is he is actually mistaking one son for the other. He looked right at Sam and asked him a question that could have only been meant for my hubby.
Hubby and Sam think he's just tired from the holidays. I personally feel that there are red flags here and I think this should be addressed immediately.
I really wouldn't even know what steps need to be taken from here. Hubby says if this ends up being serious he wouldn't know what to do either. In cases like this, do family drs. discuss a patients condition? My father-in law will be 82 in Feb. and always boasts about what good physical condition he's in. He goes to the dr. regularly and always gets a clean bill of health. I really don't know if he has discussed any of this with his dr. or if there have ever even been test taken. I am just very concerned that the sons aren't taking it seriously enough and my father-in-law could get physically hurt or taken advantage of.
I just right now need a few guide lines and information so when I discuss this further with hubby, I'll be better informed.
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Old 12-30-2003, 05:44 PM   #2
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Re: Is this just weariness?

Hi, LMS,

My sympathies to you and your family. My mother has Alzheimers and in the course of just 3 years has forgotten how to walk and doesn't recognize anyone. The first hint she was having problems was that she told me her incoming mail was confusing to her - she didn't know what was important and what wasn't. I lived halfway across the continent, but told her to put the mail that puzzled her into stacks, and I'd come see if I could help. I arrived to find 17 stacks, each about 3 feet high. She soon forgot how to do simple math and write a check. We hired an accountant who made house calls to do her finances (excellent references and duplicate bank statements came to me). When she opened the same Chrismas gift bag 3x, I knew she could not live alone anymore. I moved her into an beautiful assisted living facility where she had an apartment and her own furniture. Within 6 months, she did not recognize her own furniture.

From my experience, I say:
1) Be sure someone has Durable Power of Attorney so financial and medical decisions can be made on your father-in-law's behalf. An elder care lawyer can help with this and will have other suggestions.
2) If he takes any medicine, he's probably not taking it correctly or at all. Mom only had eye drops for glaucoma, but I caught her using the drops twice in 5 minutes because she'd forgotten she'd just used them. Mother benefitted by having someone else give her the drops - a medication aid at the assisted living facility did this.
3) Talk to his doctor and relate the things you've observed and speak of your concerns.
4) Do an on-line search to read of the Alzheimer's symptoms so you can evaluate what you've seen.
5) Stick together as a family. Your father-in-law needs to be evaluated and he may well need help.

Good luck! You're not alone on this sad road. Barbara
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Old 12-31-2003, 11:51 AM   #3
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Re: Is this just weariness?

I personally feel that there are red flags here and I think this should be addressed immediately.

Good instincts....Barbara gave you some excellent guidelines.

Contact your local Alzheimer's association for more resources in your area.

In cases like this, do family drs. discuss a patients condition?

Generally, yes, and I would insist on it or fire the doctor. Your FIL has been snowing the doc as to his cognitive condition. My mom did the same thing for years. The social skills stay for a long time after cognition goes.

Best of luck and keep us posted.

Pat
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Old 12-31-2003, 01:55 PM   #4
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Re: Is this just weariness?

Thank you very much for both of your responses. When hubby comes home from work, I am going to let him read this thread. He should be the one who takes further action since he lives the closest and has easier access to his dad's home.
Ithink the main step right now is to get access to his accounts to make sure everything is O.K. there.
With all that I read, this seems to be a major sign that things could be getting out of hand.
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Old 01-01-2004, 07:49 PM   #5
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Re: Is this just weariness?

Under the new privacy laws, the doctor CAN NOT release your Father-in-law's medical information to his son(s) unless he consents. The best way to ensure that the doctor has this consent on record is for the son(s) to go with him to a doctor's appointment as soon as possible, so the doctor can record the consent. Only the doctor can make a diagnosis of probable AD or another disease. It's possible that he has another dementia, has been having small strokes, is having a problem with his medications, etc. The symptoms that you describe do suggest that he should receive medical attention quickly since they appear to be consistent with Alzheimers (I'm not a doctor!). His living conditions may need to be monitored despite his claims to independence.

I do think that stress & changes can make an Alzheimer's patient more confused than usual. My husband definitely had set-backs with his Alzheimer's this Christmas.

The first two months after the diagnosis were the worst for us so far -- doing a lot of research, finding support services and learning how much help is out there has been a boost. Depending on your father-in-law's situation, the family may be able to obtain a housekeeper, home-health care, nursing home or assisted care, day-care services, etc. Some services are available through Medicare. Once you have identified the diagnosis, the next step will be to learn about the illness and to identify the level of care that he needs now (and that he will need in the months to come). You can find sources for this information from his doctor, or a local Alzheimer's or any elder-care group.

No matter what the diagnosis, it's time for the family to take care of business. Putting a living will, durable power of attorney and testamentary will in place are good ideas for everyone -- I did mine when we put these documents in place for my husband after he was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's. At 82, your father-in-law may already have taken care of this? If not, whoever prepares the documents will need to be sure that your father-in-law still has the capacity to understand their legal effect. If he does not have this capacity any longer, it may be necessary to have a Guardian appointed for him (a longer and more expensive legal process that will involve your local Surrogate/Probate Court). Split between the sons, you may be looking at a cost of $150 or less for an initial consultation with an elder-care specialist. Keep in mind that everyone will have different interests, and the attorney will need to know who he is representing. The family's children typically are concerned about their parent's care but also with trying to preserve whatever estate remains, and the parent may be more concerned with retaining control of their hard-earned property. I don't mean to dwell on this stuff when your're just worried about getting a diagnosis, but your visit to a lawyer can be more efficient if the family has given some of these issues some thought beforehand.

People on these boards are very kind and helpful. Keep in mind, though, that posters can only give information based on our own experiences or research. Medical suggestions should be taken to your father-in-law's doctor. There are no black & white answers that will apply to every family -- our family is dealing with an employed father of minor children, for example, so the benefits available to us from Social Security will be completely different from the benefits available to an 82-year old patient. Recommendations for a patient in the early stages of Alzheimers who is still legally competent & able to take care of himself/herself will be very different from the issues presented by a mid- or late- stage Alzheimer's patient.

First step -- get your medical diagnosis. Our prayers are with your family & your father-in-law.
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