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Old 09-04-2004, 10:22 AM   #1
little hamster
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Question Help. Need advices about fatigue, difficulty in concentration.

Dear Whoever is reading this.

Firstly thanks a million for whoever had offered me some advices on this issue, thanks for the time.

My question is..
I am having a difficult time in concentration and running fatigue easily. This became worsen with bloating, craving for foods, more fatigue when i have pms. This occurs every month when that time of month is here. In a aboout 2 years ago, I had suffered terrible grades and emotional problems such as hallucinations, crying, depression, talking to myself, suicidal events and thoughts. Eventually i went to see a doctor took anti-depressant for 2 months and stopped because i was disheartened by the side effects it had on me such as my memory gotten worse. That time i had depression but i did not turn up to the two times psychiatrist appointments. I decided and hope it was just a tempory event in my life and prayed it will go off by itself.

Currently, I have not been suicidal for quite some time. I think maybe a year. I no longer abuse drugs or think about jumping off the flat. Which i feel my condition have got a lot better than before. My grades started to improve slightly but i feel it is still a problem as i just merely pass. There are still many problems in me now- difficulty in concentration and fatigue.

I have difficulty in concentration such as not able to study for tests or exams. Such as my thoughts became disorderly and i kept thinking about many any things except studying for my tests/ exams. I also get distracted easily in lectures such as when someone clear her throat sitting beside me or shift a little bit, i get distracted. It is so serious that i think that person did it on purpose or have psychic powers to distract me. However i know it is not logical to think like that. I have many dreams and hopes and things i want to do, i keep thinking about it. I know they are acheivable and realistic but i did not carry them out because i couldn't concentrate at all. I have racing thoughts.

For fatigue, I can sleep almost 10 to 13 hours a day for weekends when there is no school. Sometimes even on sch days my sleeping hours are also very irregular such as i may sleep at 12am sometimes and wake at 5am. Or sometimes sleeping at 8pm to wake at 5am. I don't know why but i feel fatigue easily. Especially in school, I will feel tired when none of my friends are feeling tired. I will feel tired when i already slept a full good 8 hours.

I am trying to help myself. But i have yet to see a doctor on this because i don't know if fatigue is just a state of my mind or is it laziness in me? I also am afraid of been diagnosed with depression or any mental disorder. Therefore i am self-medicating myself. For past months i have been taking B6 and gingko when those days i get tired easily. Now i am trying to change to taking B6-10mg, B2-5mg, B1-10mg, C-250mg, B12-3mcg every day. I am concern about what i am taking is not overdosing because i have gotten these informations about B vitamins helping deal with fatigue from the internet. And i am also taking some meats and vegetables in my daily diet. Do you think my fatigue is actually a cause of deficiency? The B6 and ginkgo biloba have shown to reduce my pms symtpoms. I have lesser breast tenderness and fatigue but it is still hindering my lifestyle.

Any advices? Thanks a million.
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Old 09-04-2004, 10:39 AM   #2
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Re: Help. Need advices about fatigue, difficulty in concentration.

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Old 09-04-2004, 12:47 PM   #3
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Re: Help. Need advices about fatigue, difficulty in concentration.

Hi Little Hamster,

I would think that your fatique is caused by deficiency, not the other way around. Also, many of the symptoms you describe, even hallucinations, can be cause by a candida overgrowth. My son has a problem with this, and he has a diet where he isn't supposed to eat any sugar but sometimes he doesn't cooperate and he gets the inability to concentrate and he also gets a bit delusional from it. And candida is well known for causing fatigue. Do you crave sweets? Have you ever had antibiotics much anytime in your life? If you have then there is a good chance that you have a problem with candida. Try reading up on it on the internet. You don't have to have all of the symptoms because it causes a wide range of symptoms in different people.

The vitamins you are taking are good, but you aren't taking enough to make a difference. My son takes vitamin C to bowel tolerance and it makes a huge improvement but he has to take about 80 grams a day. The trick is to take it to bowel tolerance which means that you need to take almost enough to give yourself diarrhea. If you do get diarrhea it doesn't last very long. Just don't take more than 5 grams on a full stomach or you may get bloated. You can also get gas, but that can't be helped much. Try it for a couple of days and see if it helps you feel better. Start with 8-10 grams on an empty stomach and take 5 grams every half hour until you get a loose stool. You have to experiment to find out what works for you. The improvement from vitamin C is noticable within 24 hours, maybe only a few hours, but with the other vitamins it can take up to a month or two. Try taking B-50 capsules which have all the Bs in larger amounts than you are taking, and add extra niacin an B6. If you don't remember your dreams you need more B6. You can take up to 500mg a day, but I would start with 100mg, you can really get vivid dreams all night if you take it and you may not want to dream all night long. You can try starting with 500mg of niacinamide twice a day and add 500mg a day until you reach the level where you feel nauseated, and then lower the dose just to the level under that where you don't feel nauseated. This is because the nausea is your body's way of saying "I have enough now." Some people need 6 grams a day, others only need 500mg, everyone is different. Divide it in 3 doses if you are taking 3 or more capsules a day. It might also be a good idea to take zinc 30 mg twice a day plus omega 3 oils, we like Coromega or Twinlab emulsified fish oil. I don't like capsules because you can't tell if they are rancid and you don't know if they have been stored properly.

Look can up orthomolecular medicine online for more information. Our son suffers from "mental" illness and this is the approach we are taking. He is about 85-95% normal as long as he sticks to the diet, but we have only been working on it for almost 5 months and we are hoping to do better as time goes on. It is my belief that all "mental" illness is caused by imbalances in the body that can be corrected, and not because a person has something wrong with his "mind," so my reply reflects my beliefs.

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Old 09-04-2004, 03:59 PM   #4
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Re: Help. Need advices about fatigue, difficulty in concentration.

Hi LittleHamster -

Have you experienced any joint soreness or muscle fatigue and soreness. I would recommend you get tested for Lyme and tick borne coinfections.
All of your symptoms could be attibutable including the hallucinations and the depression. Fatigue is a biggy too. Only 50% of people that have Lyme remember being bitten or have a bulls eye rash. The tests can be pretty inaccurate. Go to the Lyme portion of these boards and read. See if you can relate. Just a suggestion. If it is tick borne illness you don't want to let it go or it could continue to worsen with neurological issues.

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Old 09-04-2004, 04:04 PM   #5
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Re: Help. Need advices about fatigue, difficulty in concentration.

Hi Kime -

I would have your son tested for Lyme and tick borne illness as well. I got really sick with gastro problems back in May. They still have not figured it out but there are some interesting and fast changes that have affected me. My blood pressure has dropped from my normal 120/80 to a consistant 83/56 range, I am running a degree under my typical temperature, I am having major gastro issues including diarreah and ibs kind of symptoms - this month it started to affect me neurologically. The verdict is still out but I am actively being tested for Lyme and tick borne coinfections. It is the second most acquired disease next only to AIDS. Definitely check out the Lyme link of these boards. Just to educate yourself and your children in the event they are ever bitten by a tick. I was just amazed at the severity of the illness - how gastro problems can be part of it - and how easy it is to catch.

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