Messed up my taper regiment

[cleanstart]

I was down to 2/12 vikes a day, down from 4 a day. I was suppose to do only two a day this week and I have been fluctuating between 2/12 to three a day. I think I am going to CT it Friday, so I have the weekend to get through the first couple of days. The tapering thing is not working for me at this point. I want this to be done and over with. I am sick of this crap.

How long am I going to have the wd's? Any suggestions? I was taking 4 vikes a day for about two years, the best that I have done is down to 2 1/2 a day.

Cody

[chefob1]

cleanstart.....just think,there are people out there,i was one,that had to take 40 - 50 10mg's of vicodin(hydrocodone) a day just to stave off the w/d's........everyone who are addicted to opiates have different w/d patterns.....some its the no sleep that makes them relapse...some its the diahrea....some it takes only four or five day,some a month.....i know sleep is the last side effect of w/d's to subside.....you just have to stop...its a wonder after two years your tolerance didnt go up like mine did...but i started at two or three a day too.......be tough,seek support like n/a or a/a and attend some meetings and start a recovery program...your an addict just like me and in order to put this crap aside you have to deal with it and it is well worth it....you will see life differently,trust me......but first help yourself physcologically....its all in your head right now too....follow my advice and you will get healed.......chef

[Philster2003]

Cody;

Please don't despair; there are more people that don't succeed with a taper program then those that do. Success rate for tapering is usually less then 10%. Its so hard to have the discipline and will power needed to taper. I know that from first hand experience. It took me several times of tapering before I finally was able to taper from near 50 10mgs pill per day habit.

Chef as always is on the money, withdrawal affects people differently but rule of thumb is 5-7 days of nastiness. The old 80/20 rule, it takes 80% of the time to go the last 20%. SO you are over the nasty physical part of withdrawal in the firs 5-7 days but it takes weeks and months sometimes to get sleep patterns back and overall mental stability.

Based on 4 a day (say 4 10mg pills per day) I'd say withdrawal won't be spectacularly bad (this is all relative though) but it will not be fun. Hey if you are down to 2 1/2 per day then jump off the train (CT). Get your plan and support plan (NA, AA, one on one, etc.) all determined then go for it.

Good luck, there are many here who will help you out but you are headed in the right direction, be strong and do it now because if you don't I can almost guarantee that it will get worse and the use of pills will escalate. Remember no matter how bad you feels when CT starts you are stronger then you think you are and you will succeed if you stay focused and determined to succeed.

phil

[Sarandipity]

Hi! Get ready for the flu of your life. The wonderful world of the runs and skin crawling. I just went thru the w/d's 60 days ago so the pain is very fresh on my mind. (lucky me!) Gosh it still does not even stop the cravings- can you believe that! It takes aprox 7 days. Feels like the flu. Ok, I am detoxing and on Pheonobarb, Bentyl, Quinine, Clonidine, (the Suboxone came a few days later, took that for 7 days) I had chills most of the time. I loved being around people while I was detoxing and I could never lie still, I liked to sit on something tall and kick my legs- it made me feel better. Weird huh?

If I was alone- I felt like jumping outta my skin- being around people was better for me. My head felt like it was on fire and my skin was crawling alot. I took 5 baths a day. The hot water felt good. I took tylenol and ibufprohen all day. I could not eat, but I know they gave out protein shakes to those who would drink em. The 7 days goes by pretty darn slow. Just DONT go back and take any vics. Boy they are vicious. I was going to document the pain I was feeling in detox, but I never did. Printing this off and taping it inside my big book is a good way to remind me the one pill I take will turn into 20 and then one day turns into 10, and its detox all over again.

Good luck clean start, it hurts but slowly gets better. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help!

[cleanstart]

Thanks folks I am "jumping off of the train tonight." I called my doctor and told him the taper regiment was failing. He called in Catapres. I picked it up and it is a patch that he wants to me to wear for a week or two. What does this stuff do? Is it addictive?

I wish I could take a few days off of work to deal with this but that is not going to happen. I just started a new job and I have bills up the ying yang, so I am going to have to grin and bear it.

I took half on a vike about four hours ago and I am going to take the final half in about three hours. I am just going to take tonight to prepare for this. I know my usage is down but this is still not going to be fun. I do plan on going to a meeting tommorrow evening at the Church that I attend.

Wish me luck. Wow, I can hardly wait.................not.

Cody