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Old 10-20-2005, 09:27 PM   #1
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Lightbulb "The Marshall Protocol" Antibiotics used for a year to help our bodies RID FM/CFS

Has anyone used a low dose antibiotic treatment for a year or two to help rid our bodies of the germs known to cause FM/Chronic Fatigue in most people?

The Antibiotics are used to boost and strengthen our own immune system so it can kill off the germs that are mimicking healthy cells and are making us sick. That is why our blood test are normal when we are so very sick. The normal test do not pick up the real culprates and therefore only our symptoms are treated.

Please do a Google search for "The Marshall Protocol" and read up on it and let me know what you think.

I think I have come down with Cronic Fatigue or Gulf War Syndrom in addition to FM and if it will cure the CFS and the damage it is doing to my body that is unseen and unknown to many, including many doctors, I want it gone and out of my body.

Let me know what you think. I gave my Doctor all of the info and she is studying on it since this is the answers to all of the mysteries of FM and CFS.

Are we ready to get our lives back since we have been told for years that it is cronic and will never go away, and the biggest lie of FM that it is not doing any tissue damage when that is not the complete truth. We are waisting away before our own eyes.

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"Patients with FMS or CFS often have multiple mycoplasmal infections and probably other chronic infections as well. CFS/FMS patients infected with different mycoplasma species generally had a longer history of illness, suggesting that patients may have contracted additional infections with time. Once mycoplasmal infections have been identified in the white blood cell fractions of subsets of CFS, FMS, GWI, RA and other patients, they can be successfully treated.

Appropriate treatment with antibiotics should result in patient improvement and even recovery.(6,19,20) The recommended treatments for mycoplasmal blood infections require long-term antibiotic therapy, usually multiple 6-week cycles of doxycycline (200-300 mg/day),(47) ciprofloxacin (1,500 mg/day), azithromycin (500 mg/day) or clarithromycin (750-1,000 mg/day).(48) Multiple cycles are required, because few patients recover after only a few cycles, possibly because of the intracellular locations of mycoplasmas like M. fermentans and M. penetrans, the slow-growing nature of these microorganisms and their relative drug sensitivities.

Why aren't physicians routinely treating mycoplasmal and other chronic infections? In many cases they are treating these infections, but it has been only recently that such infections have been found in so many unexplained chronic illnesses. These infections cannot be successfully treated with the usual short courses of antibiotics due to their intracellular locations, slow proliferation rates and inherent insensitivity to most antibiotics. In addition, a fully functional immune system may be essential to overcoming these infections, and this is why vitamin and nutritional supplements are so important.

We have proposed that chronic infections are an appropriate explanation for the morbidity seen in a rather large subset of CFS, FMS, GWI and RA patients, and in a variety of other illnesses. Not every patient will have this as a diagnostic explanation or have the same types of chronic infections, and additional research is necessary to clarify the role of such infections in chronic diseases.(1,7) Some patients may have chemical or radiological exposures or other environmental problems as an underlying reason for their chronic signs and symptoms.

In these patients, chronic infections may be opportunistic.

In others, somatoform disorders or illnesses caused by psychological or psychiatric problems may indeed be important. However, in these patients antibiotics, supplements and immune enhancers should have no lasting effect whatsoever, and they should not recover on such therapies.

The identification of specific infectious agents in the blood of chronically ill patients may allow many patients with CFS, FMS, GWI or RA and other chronic diseases to obtain more specific diagnoses and effective treatments for their illnesses.

Finally, patients with cardiopathies, AIDS, respiratory illnesses, and urogenital infections are often infected with Mycoplasma, Chlamydia, Brucella or other chronic, invasive bacterial and parasitic infections, and these patients could benefit from appropriate antibiotic and neutraceutical therapies that alleviate morbidity."

The Gov has spent a lot of money trying to solve the mystery of the Gulf War Syndrome and the infections seem too be a common theme they are discovering. Study the Gulf War Illness web sites for more info.
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Old 10-20-2005, 09:52 PM   #2
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Re: "The Marshall Protocol" Antibiotics used for a year to help our bodies RID FM/CFS

From what I have read very few people have got better from the Marshall Protocol. They clam it could take three plus years and after a year most of the patients are financially exhausted. With higher doses of antibiotics the infections can be cleared in half the time. That is why the success rate for lyme Dr's are much better.
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Old 10-21-2005, 12:48 AM   #3
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Re: "The Marshall Protocol" Antibiotics used for a year to help our bodies RID FM/CFS

I really don't know much about the Marshall Protocol, but I do know that taking antibiotics for long periods of time can lead to resistance. That seems to me that it could make you sicker. You kill off everything that isn't resistant to the antibiotics, so that what's left are the resistant strains, usually the most virulent. Too me that sounds scary, but if you've tried everything else, I guess you have to do what you have to do. Just be careful of yeast infections which are also caused by long term antibiotic use.

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Old 10-21-2005, 06:23 AM   #4
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Re: "The Marshall Protocol" Antibiotics used for a year to help our bodies RID FM/CFS

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From what I have read very few people have got better from the Marshall Protocol. They clam it could take three plus years and after a year most of the patients are financially exhausted. With higher doses of antibiotics the infections can be cleared in half the time. That is why the success rate for lyme Dr's are much better.

Damz68,

You are right, it could take up to 3 years depending on how good your own body is at fighting infections. The low dose of antibiotics is to support your own body to fight the infections, not to kill the germs with the antibiotics. They mentioned if they gave a higher dose of antibiotics, your body would be killing off the germs too rapidly and it will cause a person to feel sicker initially and that may be too hard to tolerate for most people so they go with a low dose and your own body kills off the germs in time.

I am sure a higher dose would be appropriate if your body needed antibiotics for a heavy sickness.

The cost may be a factor, but as we know it is also very expensive to only treat the symptoms of FM/CFS/GWI and it is hurting our bodies but the damage is mainly designed to be undetected.

The Gulf War sites are very revealing and have substantial proof that these germs were genetically engineered in labs to do a lot of damage to the brain/heart and blood volume in our bodys and go virtually undetected.

Yes, it is what we refert to as "boiological warefare" and we are gunie pigs......again from what I understand.

Very interesting research.

I think after weighing the risk, I will have to do what I have to do to get RID of these germs, hopefully for good. It does require maintence to keep the body healthy but HEALTHY sounds sooooooo good.

Take Care,

Carla
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Old 10-21-2005, 08:52 AM   #5
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Re: "The Marshall Protocol" Antibiotics used for a year to help our bodies RID FM/CFS

I will go look later today and read the marshall protocol, just to see what all it says, however let me tell you something about antibiotics.
Back about 1987 or 88, my Mama stayed on antibiotics most of the time for about a year for various things, her home had a cement floor underneath the tile and had cracked so there were mold problems They bought and moved into a better house in 1989. After all the antibiotics, she developed allergies so bad she can barely syand to go down the aisles in the stores where there are soaps of any kind or any chemicals. They discovered allergies to many things, pine, mold, any smoke, cats, dogs, multi chemicals, yeast products, many, many things. She is still that bad today. According to the allergist, that year of antibiotics is what started, or at least triggered it all. I, myself had a long standing(many years) infection and stayed on them iff and on for many years and I had to to start taking allergy meds 7 years ago, if I run out and miss more than 2 days, I get severe bronchtis. My mother has to have shots for her allergies.
Anyway this is what I know about antibiotics.
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