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Old 05-05-2006, 12:59 AM   #1
sid1747
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preparing to detox from 10-20 bag heroin habit need advice

ok im preparing to start this tomorrow. i have been doing heroin for about 3-4 years straight with the longest break being the 2 days i spent in jail i've had no other clean time. i've left rehabs and got kicked out of methadone clinics mutliple times. my mother has kicked me out and i am living with an ex-girlfriend who goes out with her new boyfriend every night which makes things even better. this is my last chance i have nothing left and i have to do it this time.

here is my list of medications i have to take.

1 bag of dope left
18 8mg suboxone
12 2mg suboxone
plenty of trazodone
a few seroquils
8 klonopins (little green ones) and 5 clonazepams .5mgs (same thing?)
plenty of clonodine .1's and .3's
10 hydrocodones
6 vicodins
some multiviatmins
plenty of imodium

i plan on doing the 1 last bag tomorrow morning too take the edge off for a few hours before the horror begins.

ok so my questions are. (note i've read the thomas recipe but i dont have money too buy anything else)

1.how long do i have to wait to take the suboxone and how much should i take. i tried it once before taking the 2 mg pills i waited till i was alittle sick to take them and they did not work i was sick all day and night, i actually think they may have made me sicker. someone told me if u take them too soon they will make u go thew instant withdrawl.

2. should i bother taking the hyrdocodone and vicodine? i know i will have to eat almost the whole bottle. if i should take it should i wait till after i finish with the suboxone or take them before i start the suboxone?

3. should i take the .1 or .3 mg clonodines?

4. are klonopins and clonazepam the same thing? and how often should i take these between the suboxone doses?

5. are there any other over the counter medications that anyone recommends? if it will greatly help i will go steal it. j/k

6. in what order should i take most of this stuff?

all opinions, tips, suggestions, anything will be greatly appreciated. greatly appreciated.

TIA
SiD
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Old 05-05-2006, 04:11 AM   #2
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Re: preparing to detox from 10-20 bag heroin habit need advice

Congrats on taking the first step. I would consult a professional addiction specialist. I wouldn't even recommend trying to do it on your own and especially with that mixture of drugs...you're just asking for trouble.
My boyfriend died today from an Oxy overdose. It was inevitable...as it was almost for me, as I almost overdosed many times on Oxy and DID od on GHB this past Thanksgiving.
Please be smart and safe about your detox and plan for everything. I wish you the best and know you are doing the right thing.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:54 AM   #3
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Re: preparing to detox from 10-20 bag heroin habit need advice

Hi...
i think i can help a bit..since i have done sub detox from the same..
most important-Do NOT..take any vicodin/hydrocodone..while detoxing w/ sub..
wait until u are in full withdrawals-18/hrs..after your'e last bag-take 2 to 4 mgs/of sub every 4 hrs..letting the sub melt under your toungue until fully dissolved-see how you feel..
dont swallow the pill whole-its sublingual..(just in case you didn't know)
for the first 24 hrs..
day 2..8 mgs/twice a day-
day3/ 4/5-start weaning down-
8 mgs/4 mgs/2 mgs...
if you keep taking the sub-longer than detox..5 days..keep titrating lower in dose.
we can discuss later-you do not need clonidine w/for sleep/take the traza done..if you have real problems w/ sleep
also do not take the klonipin-in conjunction-w/ sub and its use will be more helpful after detox..if you have bad anxiety..you could take 1 mgs..after several hrs..after sub..careful mixing the two..never both at once..
main thing-wait..till you are really sick..till you take the subox..let it melt fully..
vitamins/are fine after a day or so-you are gonna still feel-kinda yucky the first few days..
klonipin/clonazepam are the same..seroquel..unneccesery-
ive done detox/maitainence w/ sub-it works better for people w/ pill habits..
for detox-but is much better than cold turkey..
you are still gonna feel it-but by day 3 just like turkeying you will feel better..
im happy to help /and wish you the best in your recovery..
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:01 AM   #4
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Re: preparing to detox from 10-20 bag heroin habit need advice

prayers are with you. you will need them............stay strong no matter what!!
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:11 PM   #5
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Re: preparing to detox from 10-20 bag heroin habit need advice

honestly, why were you kicked of meth? i have been where you are and in 30 yrs. never kept to it, i really think you should go in a detox center, even if your lucky enough to get threw the sick part!!! you need help in other ways,i got off with meth. and been clean since, herion is no joke, you know that,i was so sick i wanted to take my own life, that sickness lasts for months, so does that craving feeling,if you were doing that many bags and it was good stuff, no pills are going to do it????? please get help!!!.....i dont wish that kind of sickness on no one,well , god bless, let us know how you are,
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