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Old 12-12-2007, 06:26 PM   #1
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Diastolic Dysfunction

I don't know if others have read my posts in here in the last couple of months but back in August I was taken to the ER due to chest pains. Long story short it was determined that I had an enlarged heart, with my heart walls thickening and placed on Toprol. Well the chest pains did not go away so my doctor decided to do a CT scan. Well the scan showed what she thought was a blockage and an angiogram was scheduled. I had the angiogram last week and when I went to see my doctor on Monday I was happy to hear that I did not have any blockages. But she did tell me that the left side of my heart was stiff and having difficulty relaxing or in other words Diastolic Dysfunction. I was placed on an ACE inhibitor as well as the toprol and she told me to come back in 3 months. Just to let everyone know a bit about myself I am a 36 yr old female no history of heart problems, pre-diabetic, overweight. I was just seeing if anyone else had been diagnosed with this and if so are they are on the same type of medications.

Thanks for your time.

Terry
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Old 12-15-2007, 03:32 PM   #2
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Re: Diastolic Dysfunction

Terry, I am sorry it has taken me so long to reply to your post. To tell you the truth, I have been researching Diastolic Dysfunction so that I might have more information for you. The latest and best info is hard to come by, because you have to pay for it, and I have not.

I was diagnosed with DD in May of this year, after I had an angiogram (cath) performed at the Cleveland Clinic and also had a "high risk" stent inserted in to the very beginning of my Lad. It protrudes out into my left main.

The diagnosis can only be made for sure through cardiac catheterization, where they measure the left ventricular end diastolic fill pressure (LVEDP). If it is >20mmhg, then DD is diagnosed. Mine was 24mmhg in May. It had increased to 27 mmhg in September, when I had another cardiac catheterization for a minimally invasive direct coronary artery bypass (MID-CAB) evaluation via another cardiac catheterization.

In Europe DD is diagnosed at >16mmhg. This is weird to me...

An echocardiogram can "suggest" and probably with good accuracy that one has DD, due to the pattern and characteristics of the flow through the mitral valve. The flow from the opening of the LV (diastolic phase) creates a suction which begins the filling of the LV and is called "E" flow. The fill flow from the contraction of the left atrium is called the "A" flow.

The E flow should be much more than the A flow, but during DD, there is a "flow reversal" measured by the echo. Echos are so non-standard; one I had was explained as a poor E/A ratio of <1. I had one 3 days ago at a different cardiology group and it was called E to A flow reversal.

DD can lead to Diastolic Heart Failure which can lead to Congestive Heart Failure as you probably know. In order to be diagnosed with this type of dysfunction or heart failure, your heart's Ejection Fraction (EF) must be good. (strange-eh?)

This is also the newest type of heart failure and it is really hard to figure out why the left ventricle does not relax during the diastolic filling phase. I have read "non-compliance" until I am sickened by the term. Loss of elasticity is another term, but whatever it is, it does not effect the contraction of the LV.

Since it doesn't relax, the pressure inside your LV and left atrium increases. The worse the "non-compliance" gets, the higher these pressures get. My cardiologist explained to me that if they approach 30mmhg, they can cause high pulmonary veneous pressure, which causes CHF.

The biggest problem I see is that it can and has caused my left atrium to become enlarged. It also causes low cardiac output which is hurting me. We are super sensitive to blood volume changes. Do not let yourself become dehydrated. This will cause low cardiac output. Your LV does not fill with the same amount of blood it once did.

I am taking Coreg CR (beta blocker), an ACE inhibitor, a "slow acting" calcium channel blocker, Norvasc, and fast acting nitrolingual nitroglycerin (pill under the tongue), about 7 or 8 times in a 24 hour period. This is supposedly better than time released nitroglycerin or any long acting nitroglycerin. The Coreg is not mentioned by name, but it is supposed to be the best beta blocker for heart failure in general.

There is a new beta blocker for heart failure that has been approved only for hypertension, so far by the FDA. It is a "third generation" (new) beta-blocker called Nebivolol. (proposed brand name Bystolic) The FDA said the production facility was dirty, so this med will probably not be on the market until January 2008. This may be the best BB for DD, from what I have read.

These are the most frequently mentioned meds I can find and my cardiologist agrees with the regime. I am also taking other heart meds, but these I mentioned are recommended for DD.

It is also recommended to try to stay away from diuretics as much as possible, so I do not use salt and I try to watch the amount of liquids I drink. Most importantly I do not want to become dehydrated, but I do not want to "swell up" either lol.

CAD is one of the most common causes of DD, and I have plenty of that going on. There are also some other strange conditions that can cause DD. "Amyloidosis" is one of them.

If I learn anything else about DD, I will let you know. It is very, very important to maintain good posture. Do not slump forward!
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:36 PM   #3
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Re: Diastolic Dysfunction

Huck,

First of all I just have to say wow!! This is a lot of information you have given me and I thank you. Mine too was diagnosed with heart catherization. With my EF being 76 and the pressure build up my doctor said I have DD. She told me that it was completely reversible it just meant taking more medicationa and a complete lifestyle change. It is going to be hard but I have to say this definitely scared me...

There is not really a lot of information out there on DD as I found when I was researching on the web. You actually were able to find more than I ever did. I was surprised to discover that it is becoming more common, especially in women. My doctor told me she believed mine was caused by high blood pressure which is why she is trying to keep it lowered with the beta blocker and the ACE inhibitor. I am not reacting very well to the ACE inhibitor though. I am starting to get this cough that doesn't go away as well as these terrible headaches. I am guessing that is normal until I get used to it. She is trying to bring my pressure as low as it can be and still be able for me to function.

I hate that you have this too but I am glad that I am not the only one going through it. It is nice to have someone else out there to talk to about this that understands what I am going through.

Please take care and if I find out anything else on this I shall certainly let you know.

Terry
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:34 PM   #4
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Re: Diastolic Dysfunction

Hi Terry

Just wanted to say that if you cannot tolerate the ACE inhibitors, there is a new generation of angiotension receptor blockers that do the same thing as the ACE inhibitors, only in a different way, just as good or maybe better according to some studies. This new class of meds are called ARBs (angiotension receptor blockers), and I am sure that you have heard of them.

I took ACEi (altace) for 3.5 years before having the notorious side effect of a rough cough. I also had some type of throat restriction, weird it was.... I haven't heard of ACEi's causing headaches, but I am sure that it is possible. We all are so unique when it comes to our reactions to medicines.

Myself, I have probably tried almost every type of the newer ARBs, and cannot tolerate any of them, without muscle pain and fatigue. After discovering the DD, I knew that I had to start some med that blocked angiotension so I restarted the old altace again. I have been on it for almost 2 months and no problems so far. It may be because the med is so old, lol. I hope not. If I get the altace refilled and have the reaction, I will start back on the last ARB I was trying to take, which was Avapro.

These meds can and do help the heart from remodeling, and I think that one reason I developed this DD was not taking angiotension blockers for so long. That plus the coronary artery disease that I have.

Best of luck
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