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Old 01-15-2004, 10:20 AM   #31
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

Another thing: The mixture does not come out of the other nostril. Perhaps I do have swelling. Does anyone know how to reduce sinus swelling?

 
Old 01-15-2004, 12:34 PM   #32
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

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Another thing: The mixture does not come out of the other nostril. Perhaps I do have swelling. Does anyone know how to reduce sinus swelling?
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Are you using cool water or warm. If there is swelling I would not use warm water. Other then that I think you just need some healing time for the swelling to go down.

 
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Old 01-16-2004, 04:57 AM   #33
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

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Are you using cool water or warm. If there is swelling I would not use warm water. Other then that I think you just need some healing time for the swelling to go down.
I use the water from my filter on the door of my fridge, so it is cold at first. But by the time I mix everything together and get ready, the mixture is room temp.

 
Old 01-16-2004, 09:13 AM   #34
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I suggest that you also add to Cetylpyridinium chloride (active ingredient in Sino Flow) to your irrigation mixture because it kills mold as well as bacteria. I am not a chemist so I dont know if it would react with the Hydrogen Peroxide or not. Good luck to all...

 
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I intend on formulating a mixture that uses the Baking Sodo, Hydrogen-peroxide and Cetylpyridinium chloride and I will let you know the results...

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Old 03-17-2004, 06:56 PM   #36
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

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I intend on formulating a mixture that uses the Baking Sodo, Hydrogen-peroxide and Cetylpyridinium chloride and I will let you know the results...
Just wonder how you are doing. For some reason, I missed your note completely.

I would not suggest experimenting with pouring mixtures into one's sinuses unless you get an approval from an ENT first.

About 2.5 years ago, out of desperation, frustration and agony over my third sinus infection in a short period of time, I poured diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide into my nostrils. I didn't know what I was doing, and it was much too strong. It burned my sinuses and made my sinus condition much worse for three days. It was not the smartest thing for me to do, but I got lucky and it worked.

But........... I don't know if it will help others, like it did me, or harm others. So, I always recommend to check with one's ENT or doctor before trying my "upside down sinus flooding" with diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt.

I would never recommend anyone experimenting with pouring mixtures into their sinuses, unless prescribed or authorized by their doctor.

Regards, and I hope that your health is great!

 
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

I have been reading all the information and feedback on this topic. I've been having sinus problems for over a year now when I never had them before. I get mostly nasal congestion and pressure at times. At night it becomes difficult to breathe and I feel nauseaus. I am going to start trying the "Upside down sinus flooding to see what happens". Like most of people I went to doctors and the specialist to find out what my problem was. Some of them told me I had sinusitis, others allergies, etc... They prescribed antibiotics, anthistaminics, nasal sprays but nothing has worked for me. I was wondering that maybe my problem could be related to my wisdom teeth. Could this be related??? Ever since I started having the sinusistis symptoms my upper wisdom teeth began to grow although they did not come out normal but sideways as if they were touching my sinus membranes who knows maybe this could be the problem. Anyway if someone has the same problem or recommendations please don't hesitate and write me...

I am going to try the method to see if it works.

By the way I was researching and found out that "Colloidal Silver" as a natural nasal spray could be very effective to treat infections...

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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

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I have been reading all the information and feedback on this topic. I've been having sinus problems for over a year now when I never had them before. I get mostly nasal congestion and pressure at times. At night it becomes difficult to breathe and I feel nauseaus. I am going to start trying the "Upside down sinus flooding to see what happens".
The "flooding" was a huge breakthrough treatment for my chronic sinus infection problem. It's over 2.5 years and I still haven't suffered from a sinus infection, although, before that I had gotten about three infections per year.

I don't think that it is very effective against sinus problems caused by allergies. For my Asthma and Sinus allergy problems, I've made changes to my diet and my environment, had allergy shots, had acupuncture treatments, and used electro-acupuncture on myself.

Best of luck to you. Perhaps, if your sinuses problems are caused by viral, fungal or bacterial matter within your nasal passages or around your turbinates, then, if the anti-infective mixture can get to the right place(s), perhaps you'll get some relief.

Please feedback.

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I was wondering that maybe my problem could be related to my wisdom teeth. Could this be related??? Ever since I started having the sinusistis symptoms my upper wisdom teeth began to grow although they did not come out normal but sideways as if they were touching my sinus membranes who knows maybe this could be the problem.
The only thing I know about this subject is that some who have problems with their Maxillary Sinuses, also can have discomfort with their teeth. Perhaps someone else can share their experiences with you.

Best of luck and health to you.

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Old 04-15-2004, 11:02 AM   #39
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Hi, beerzoids! I have seen you in every forum I know. You are nice person! You have a giver heart, may God bless you richly!

I have a question: Did the upside down sinus flooding stop postnasal drip?

Thanks

 
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

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Hi, beerzoids! I have seen you in every forum I know. You are nice person! You have a giver heart, may God bless you richly!

I have a question: Did the upside down sinus flooding stop postnasal drip?

Thanks
Hi! Thanks for the kind words.

I get frustrated because of the lack of feedback. I don't know how many are being helped by sinus flooding with peroxide, and how many are not. I wonder if many are trying it, and not seeing any relief. It's helped me greatly, so I've got to believe that it is helping others.

Regarding postnasal drip? I always have a feeling of drainage, or a presence of something, in the back of my throat, but, most of the time I don't pay any attention to it. I assume that it is mucus. It really isn't a problem. When I was getting constant sinus infections, it was much more of a problem, and I would have to clear my throat and spit out discolored yellow/green blobs.

Thanks again for the nice words!

 
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

[QUOTE=beerzoids]I get frustrated because of the lack of feedback. I don't know how many are being helped by sinus flooding with peroxide, and how many are not. I wonder if many are trying it, and not seeing any relief. It's helped me greatly, so I've got to believe that it is helping others. QUOTE]

I think that it is great that you are sharing your experiences with everyone and trying to help others. I wanted to give you my feedback. I have used this method about 5 times. I had to stop doing it because after the flooding, I would develop a "cold" or cold like symtoms that would last for days. I have no idea why. My nose would be very runny and stuffy. I realized that you said to use kosher salt and I was using table salt. Maybe that's why. I am in the middle of getting married and moving to another state right now, but once things settle down, I am going to buy some kosher salt and try again.

 
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Re: New 'upside down sinus flooding' documentation.

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I have used this method about 5 times. I had to stop doing it because after the flooding, I would develop a "cold" or cold like symtoms that would last for days. I have no idea why. My nose would be very runny and stuffy.
Peroxide can be very irritating to the sinuses. Regular salt is also irritating to the sinuses. As you have experienced, cold symptoms come from irritation to the sinuses, and not necessarily from a virus.

What you experienced is very common when doing a flooding, especially if using too much peroxide.

How much peroxide were you using?

If you wanted to try it again, you might consider using Kosher salt, and cut down on the peroxide.

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I realized that you said to use kosher salt and I was using table salt. Maybe that's why.
Using regular salt will irritate the sinuses and can cause cold-like symptoms.

After you got over the irritating effects of the flooding, was there any improvements in your sinus condition?

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I am in the middle of getting married and moving to another state right now, but once things settle down, I am going to buy some kosher salt and try again.
Congratulations! I wish you a long and happy marriage. It's got to be very exciting, getting married and moving away, at the same time. We did the same thing. I just wish that we had an Internet back then.

 
Old 05-04-2004, 01:54 PM   #43
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Just wanted to share my experience with everyone. I too had chronic sinusitis, until recently when I underwent surgery. The CT of my sinuses shows my right sinus filled with fluid, that had probably been in there for years. I haven't felt good in over 20 years, and haven't, until recently, pinpointed the source of my problem. I also have chronic pain in my upper sinus, radiating up into my scalp. Well, surgery sort of cleared most of that up, until about three weeks after. Then, it all went down hill again. Then I tried the sinus irrigation, and to my amazement, most of the pain went away. I've also been using 2-3 drops of h202 in my ears, and the first time I did this they foamed like mad. Now they are free of bacteria and fungus. I suspect that my entire sinus passageways have been infected with a fungus or bacteria. Either way, I'm a fan of the nasal irrigation!!! My mixture is 1 part h202 to 10 parts water. And even at that diluted strength, the first time was the worst! It did sting, and lots of nasty stuff came out. I should add that following the irrigation, I used a decongestant to keep them clear. Hope this helps someone...

 
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I use ENTsol solution. It comes premixed, so I don't have to worry about too much salt irritation. I use the canister to irrigate away from home when needed, and the packets in distilled water in my waterpik with a special attachment for the sinuses at home (a grossan attachment). The waterpik occilates that the same rate as the cilia in my nose should but don't anymore, so it helps keep everything cleared out. I warm up the water in the microwave before using it a little. It doesn't sting and the nasty stuff still comes out. My ENT and allergist both recommended the irrigation but one recommends the waterpik and the other the canister. I use both for different reasons. I like the portability of the canister, but the waterpik is more thorough.

 
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Thanks for the reply. I did try this and it didn't seem to work too well. I knelt down, put my forehead on the tub (by beginning of hair line), and squirted the solution in each nostril. It didn't seem to absorb that much. Could my sinus be blocked? What can I do to ensure nasal absorbtion? How long does it take to seep in the sinuses when you put the solution in your nostril?

And on the breath issue, My breath isn't caused from my mouth. I think the source is in the back of my mouth and throat - I can feel it actually.

Edit: Will this method also help get rid of mucus in my throat?
Sebum, you are probably correct in your assessment of bad breath in your mouth. From what research I've done, almost every case of bad breath originates from the mouth, and almost never from the stomach. I had my tonsils removed and it did cure my bad breath. However, I now believe my tonsils were infected due to my sinus issues, eg. constant drainage into my throat causing the tonsils to infect. Your tonsils will create these really nasty smelling plugs that are inside the "crypts" of your tonsils. If you ever cough up whitish chunks that are similar in appearance and smell to vomit, these are actually from your tonsils and are what can cause bad breath. Also, your tongue could be the cause. Do a search on the net for bad breath research and you will come up with a very good site that has thoroughly studied the problem, and also possible solutions. Look for the faq's. There are other causes, such as gum disease, tongue bacteria, etc. that could be from post-nasal drip. But these also may be linked to the sinuses. Like I said before, I've cured the bad breath problem, now I've still got the sinuses to deal with. Hopefully you'll only have to deal with your sinuses to get your bad breath under control!

Also, be sure and check out the bad breath forum on this board, but be forewarned that bad breath rarely comes from the stomach, as you'll find out as you do more research on the subject.

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