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Old 05-04-2005, 10:21 AM   #1
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Sinus infection in 5yr old lead to shaving of tonsils and adenoids?

Hi everyone. Ok here is our situation.

As of November (she started school in August) my 5 year old started getting sinus infections. She would get stopped up, then start coughing. We would take her to the doctor and they would say it's probably allergies causing it as I have seasonal allergies. So they'd put her on all these allergy meds (singulair, zyrtec, flonase) and give her a course of antibiotics to get the infection gone. Well, the antibiotics worked somewhat....she'd quit coughing after she was on them for a week or so....but as soon as she got off of them, she'd start the whole cycle of getting stopped up and coughing again. The went on for every month since november.....there were a couple of times she would get very sick with 103 degree fever and really be sicky. She only had 1 ear infection through all of this. The doctors (we were rotating between two - we'e military and the healthcare isn't the best) said the fevers were from the infections...that the antibiotics weren't working. She went through amoxicillan, zithromax, cephalexin and augmentin. We did make it through march without being on any antiobiotics, but she still has stopped up nose in the morning and a cough every few days it seems. I have taken her off all the allergy meds, since I don't think they were helping. We did get a referral to go to an ear, nose and throat specialist and that doctor instantly said her tonsils were huge. He then quickly suggested that we "shave" he tonsils and adenoids. He x-rayed her adenoids and said they were so large they were almost blocking her airway. I was taken aback when he said surgery! That was the last thing I had expected to hear.

My question is, is this normal...for the tonsils and adenoids to be taken out due to alot of sinus infections? Has anyone else had similar experiences? I am just concerned that when we do this (it's scheduled for 2 weeks from now) that she'll still have the same problems. The doctor said that if this didn't work, he'd look at an immune deficiency. I think that's odd, as she's been around all the kids at school now and never gotten strep or anything else. Any help would be appreciated. I just hate to put her through this if it's not gonna help or if it might make her worse. Has anyone had experience in the "shaving" tonsils procedure, as the doctor said this is a fairly new procedure and is suppose to make the recovery easier.

Thanks so much.

 
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:58 PM   #2
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Re: Sinus infection in 5yr old lead to shaving of tonsils and adenoids?

I don't have any experience with having my tonsils and adenoids out, but I can tell you I sure wish I did! I suffered from repeated ear infections in infancy, similar symptoms at her age, along with bouts of strep throat and tonsilitis 2-3 times a year. My mother inquired about having them removed when I was 7 or 8, and the pediatrician always gave me the same answer. "She'll outgrow it." Well, I stopped getting strep so much, then began having chronic sinus problems. Here I am at 24 years old with sinus infections all the time and a perpetually "stuffy" nose. I can't breathe freely ever, especially while lying down at night. I often dream about what it would be like to breathe freely, easily, and constantly through my nose, not be able to feel my sinuses constantly inflamed and pressury, to be able to hear something without the muffled sound like there is alway fluid in my ear, and to sleep in any position I wanted to and still be able to breathe. I suppose I could see an ENT now and inquire about it, but I have 2 kids and I've heard the recovery is much more difficult for an adult than a child.

Sorry I'm not much help, but I do think that if the doctors recommend it you will be doing her a huge favor for the rest of her life to go ahead and get it over with now so she won't have to suffer for years like I have! Good luck to both of you!
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:48 PM   #3
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I have never heard of shaving tonsils but my 5 year old is getting her Tonsils and adnoids removed in about 9 hours. She is also getting tubes put into her ears!! They are way to big for her and she can barely breath through her nose. I am very ok with this surgery because i think that it will help her a lot. I am scared that she will have to be in pain. Being put under is very scary to me but this. I think that you should take one step at a time, chances are that her tonsils are way too big and instead of getting them shaved ask him about just removeing them.I hope this helps you out. I know how you feel!!

 
Old 05-07-2005, 07:10 PM   #4
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Vickie2172-THIS IS FOR YOU ESPECIALLY- Your daughters symptoms are identical to my 5 yr old son. It got really bad in November, constant antibiotics, allergy meds, (which tests show no allergies), He has even been on Prednisone 3x. His ct scans showed chronic/persistant sinusitis. So- like you- we were referred to ENT. His tonsils and adnoids are being removed on the 18th of May. Im praying it stops this vicious cycle. His body is so worn out, from the meds as well as the sickness. What is upsetting me also, he is showing elevated liver enzymes, and lowered kidney function. Im hoping from inflammation from him staying so sick. At this point Im just out of my mind. The pediatrician has made no comment on his labs, he doesn't know I requested a copy of them.
CREAT .3
BUN/RATIO 50.
A:G RATIO 1.7
AST(SGOT) 75
MPV 8.8
LYMPH NORMAL 6

THE CREAT,MPV,LYMPH IS LOW, THE OTHERS ARE ELEVATED. Im wandering what your daughters labs look like. Sharon

 
Old 05-09-2005, 11:05 AM   #5
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Re: Sinus infection in 5yr old lead to shaving of tonsils and adenoids?

Vickie, Ice, and Sharon,
My son had T&A removed at 2.5 years old. BEST thing in the world for him!!! Well other than the fact that he had undiagnosed acid reflux (which caused the constant cough). Undiagnosed acid reflux will lead to asthma - which he has now at 8.
Anyway - also my daughter started snoring at 18 months and suffered from chronic ear infections. When the ENT looked at her tonsils - he said she MUST be having sleep apnea as well due to their size. So until surgery the next week, I couldn't sleep while she was because I was scared she would stop breathing. Hers were removed (T&A) at 22 months. We stayed overnight because of her age and her weight. She was 28 pounds at the time. Even though it was hard - I would do it again at an even earlier age!!!! She is a different child. Her tonsils and adenoids were the largest the doc had seen in a child her age. She sleeps soundly now without snoring, she eats now (he said that she must have had trouble eating with their size), and she really doesn't get as sick anymore. She is on her 3rd set of ear tubes though at age 5 (one set a year). Just remember to take something you KNOW she will eat to the hospital (pudding, ice cream, jello). They will not let you leave until she has eaten and they had nothing there that she would eat.
And Sharon - yes the blood levels are probably reflecting the disease that has remained in his tonsils this whole time. You'll be shocked at the energy he will have in 2 days after surgery. Because of the young age - they will bounce back pretty quick. Quicker than us moms want to allow too. Slow down - you just had surgery!!!!
Wishing you all the best of luck!!!!!
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Old 05-09-2005, 02:56 PM   #6
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Re: Sinus infection in 5yr old lead to shaving of tonsils and adenoids?

my son was 5 and had tubes, adenoids removed and his sinus cleaned out. he had sinus infection for over a year and we did about 60 days of antiobiotics. he had a cat scan that showed his sinuses and he had hearing loss. my son coughed all the time and we thought he had asthma, surgery went great. He bounced back the next day.
we were told the adenoids hold onto the sinus infection, his tonsills were not removed as he never had problems with them.
best best thing we ever did for him, I am glad we did.
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Old 05-09-2005, 05:43 PM   #7
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Thank You for writing. Im holding my breath until the surgery. Yes - he snores very loud, he wakes himself up all night snoring. Thanks for the advice on the food to take up there also. Sharon

 
Old 05-09-2005, 07:17 PM   #8
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Re: Sinus infection in 5yr old lead to shaving of tonsils and adenoids?

Thanks to everyone who replied. It is so comforting to know that there are other people out there who are going through the same thing....that sounds terrible when you say it....but you know what i mean.

Sharon, our doctors never did any labwork. The military healthcare bites! Only real thing they have done is give her a CT and then refer us off base to the ENT. At first I was worried about her the choice of proceeding with her upcoming surgery (she's scheduled for May 19) but after doing alot of reading and talking to other moms I feel good with it. How is your son now Sharon? Has he still been sicky? My daughter just last night started getting stopped up again. The nurse said 2 weeks prior to surgery the only thing she could have medicine wise is tylenol....but tonight i did give her some tylenol cold with a decongestant. I am just hoping she stays well enough to have it done.

Hrtofluv, thanks for the info about eating something and the well wishes. Ours is going to be outpatient. My daughter snores alot too, I guess I just never thought anything about it.

Eye2797, did your son end up having asthama? I too, wondered if the tonsils needed to come out since really it's the adenoids that have alot to do with the sinuses. I am thinking that if the tonsils come out, want she get alot more sicknesses? Like she never has gotten strep or any other normal stuff, so I hope she doesn't start after they're out. Well, actually we're doing the shaving procedure, where they leave some. But I guess something has to be done to the tonsils since our doctor instantly said, you're tonsils are huge!

Ice8080, how is your daughter doing? How did it go for her? How was the anesthesia administered? I hope you both are doing well and it's helped her already.

Thanks again for all the replies.

 
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Now I'm not sure about the other moms, but to answer your questions about anesthesia (we were at a children's hospital), they come in about 30 minutes before and give them silly juice to drink. It is a sedative. Then once they are silly, you walk with the nurse to right outside the doors (the waiting room for us is right there too) and the nurse hand carries your child back to the OR. The IV for anesthesia is not given until they are knocked out with gas first. The best part about the silly juice is your child does not realize when the nurse takes them - they are still smiling at you as they leave. Then in the waiting room, they call you when the procedure starts. Then about 10-15 minutes later, the doctor comes out and meets with you in a private room to let you know how easy everything went and how she/he is going to feel so much better. They actually biopsy the tonsils and adenoids if they are larger than average. Then the moment they start coming to - they are wheeling them out of recovery to your arms. Well most times a nurse will carry them back to you, but my daughter wouldn't let anyone touch her, so they brought her back out on a stretcher. And they let them take a stuffed animal and favorite blanket too - so they wake up to something they know.
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Old 05-10-2005, 10:34 AM   #10
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Re: Sinus infection in 5yr old lead to shaving of tonsils and adenoids?

Isaiah did wind up with asthma but only when he is sick, not anyother time, like running and stuff it was a 360 after we did the surgery.
he is 8 now and he has not needed any asthma meds and has been sick just a few times
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:14 PM   #11
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My son does have asthma, and is on all kinds of asthma meds, I just thought about the fact that they are not supposed to have any meds except Tylenol 2 weeks prior to surgery. Jarrod just finished 5 days of Prednisolone on May 6 and his sugery is May 18.

 
Old 05-17-2005, 01:39 PM   #12
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Sharon, I just wanted to say good luck tomorrow...I have been thinking about you and your son. Please let me know how it all goes. We go in on thursday.

 
Old 05-19-2005, 12:29 PM   #13
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Thank you so much! Everything went fantastic. No problems at all. In fact , when he woke up after coming out of surgery, they did have to give him some pain medicine, but after it kicked in, he ate 5 scoops of ice cream, 2 grape popsicles, bowl of jello, and 4 cups of gatorade . I pray every thing goes well for yours today and hope to hear from ya soon. Sharon

 
Old 05-21-2005, 08:51 AM   #14
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Hi Sharon, I am so glad to hear that everything went ok for your son. Sounds like it went pretty easy. Ours went well also. She woke up in recovery and drank some sprite and took the pain meds and slept there some and several hours later at home. Then she woke up and wanted pizza and she ate that ok! The doctor said that she could have whatever she wanted as long as she chewed it up good. She has had some pain but not awful I don't think. How is your son doing now? Did he have his completely taken out or shaved? We did the shaving. Take care.
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:49 PM   #15
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Hey Vickie- Im glad to hear it went so well! My son had adnoids and tonsils completley removed, he is still only able to eat mash potatoes, jello , etc.
They started him on Zithromax in the hospital and he took his last dose yesterday. Today he has a terrible infection smell coming from his mouth. Someone told me that was normal, so Im hoping so. He's only had slight fever 99 and 100 which they told me would be normal. Let me know how your daughters doing. I can't beleive she could eat pizza? - Sharon

 
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