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Old 02-03-2013, 10:56 PM   #1
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burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

I'm at the end of my hope... for an year now I've been having burning nose pain when I breath in through my left nostril. It's the worst pain I've ever experienced. It's like breathing the coldest, driest air up your nose. I also get headaches on my left side of the head. The only relief is sleep, but as soon as I wake up it starts all over again in the course of 2 minutes. The pain is the strongest in my left nostril, where my septum also pushes into. I feel like a stinging point behind the bridge of my nose. From time to time I have a short fizzing feeling, like a bubble moving near my eye. Sometimes I feel like a pressure feeling on the both bony sides of my nose bridge and between my eyes. Recently I noticed some pain in the right nostril too. I don't know exactly when it started in my right nostril, because the pain in the left nostril has been so strong.

I've been through CT, MRI that came out normal. Apart from a contact point in my left nostril, I asked for, but they told me it can't hurt. I'm desperate because I went from doctor to doctor, and they put the blame on me and keep telling me that I'm crazy, it's all in my head, or that I have a nerve problem. It's like having a horrible toothache and someone tells you "it's in your head, go rest a little bit, you're too stressed. just ignore it". I took nerve medication but it didn't help. I noticed that the decongestant spray helps a litte bit,the pain gets less severe and sometimes I even have short periods(seconds) without pain when I breath in. But I can't use it for long.
Has anyone experienced something like this? Has anyone cured this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I honestly feel less and less power to fight for this... and I'm terrified that I have to live like this for the rest of my life.

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Old 03-12-2013, 09:55 PM   #2
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

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Old 04-19-2013, 10:57 PM   #3
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

I've been having a similar issue, also in my left side, though it's been much less frequent than your problem. It only happens once a week at most and it only lasts for maybe 15 seconds. It's a very intense burning, like (as you say) a very cold air or the feeling you get after eating wasabi or horseradish or burping through your nose after drinking something carbonated, but much worse. It isn't disrupting my life like it's disrupting yours, but it's weird and intense enough that I decided to do a little casual research and stumbled across this.

Other than saying you're not alone, I think I might recommend something else as a possible long shot: nicotine. It constricts the blood vessels, similar to the nose spray you mentioned. I've found it works wonders in nipping my migraines in the bud. I only get a handful each year, but when they come it is hell on earth, pain transcending anything you can possibly fathom and lasting for hours and hours. It may even be connected to my own fleeting nose pain: when I get a migraine I always get a strong aura in my left eye. Always the left eye, never the right... same with my nose pain.

Anyway, nicotine is *relatively* safe and apparently only mildly addictive (unlike tobacco, which contains lots of other synergistically addictive chemicals including MAOIs.) You can buy it over the counter, most commonly as lozenges, patches and gum... though in your case you may want to try the nicotine nose sprays or vaporizers ("e-cigarettes"). It's still addictive (a bit less so than coffee, in my experience) and if you use it heavily over the long term you are probably raising your risk of cancer (but definitely not as much as smoking), so stay aware of your rate of consumption and if it does work you should still keep an eye out for alternatives. It goes without saying, this isn't an FDA approved usage of nicotine replacement therapy.

If it doesn't work you should still focus on the blood vessel angle, since you said nasal decongestant sprays had an effect. Try asprin, try pseudoephedrine, try migraine medications, try beta blockers, try larger doses of caffeine, try alcohol, try topical anesthetics ("-caine" medications like chloroseptic, ambisol or orajel. Though you should check with a doctor that whatever product you use isn't going to screw up your sinuses), and try anything else you can find that might affect blood flow one way or the other. Keep a detailed journal (including dosages) of what helps, what makes it worse, and what does nothing. Don't listen to the self-absorbed jackass-type doctors; referring you to a psychaitrist is just their way of mitigating liability and avoiding having to admit that idiopathic illnesses are actually pretty common. Certainly, they are a hell of a lot more common than actual psychosomatic illnesses. I'm not a doctor though, just a wikipedia addict willing to self-experiment.

 
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:15 AM   #4
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

Thank you so much for taking the time to write to me. I've had a decompression surgery in my nose which didn't help. I still have the pain 24/7. I feel extremely depressed. I feel that no one understands and no one cares to help me. I really appreciate there is someone who took the time to write this. I'm willing to try everything because I can't imagine living like this for the rest of my life. I'd better not live, I have no quality of life from this. And I'm very young, I should have the life ahead of me. I'm still trying not to give up and try everything before giving up. I've created a community in the hope that together is it possible to figure it out easier. But it's pretty difficult to gather people, maybe partly because everyone is depressed.

I'm still trying to figure out which is the link with the septum, if there is any, because people I've asked with the same problem seem to have the septum bent to the same side of their pain. Is your septum also bent to the left side?

Lately the pain extended more and more to my other side also, though it's less intense and a little bit different. I noticed if I stimulate my other side with a q-tip so that it hurts bad enough, it abolishes the pain on my left side for a short time, probably from my pain centers being occupied and over-firing with electrical stimuli, i guess? then after a few seconds it moves back again on my left side.

Far from being psychological, I think that my nose being over and over stimulated created a wind-up effect in my brain, causing central sensitization in my pain centers...like a snowball getting bigger and bigger.Pain mechanisms also include pain memory. At first I was only sensitive to cold air, now to any temperature. But I feel a particular point/nerve in the nose which seems the center of my pain from which it seems to start. It is stinging and lancinating in that particular point. I hope one day I can get a nerve block and see which nerve actually hurts.

These are my thoughts... I hope for you it's going to go away completely. Protect yourself for some time from irritants, cold air, tobacco smoke, for me it makes my pain even stronger. How long have you had these and is there anything that made them start? like a cold for example? And do you have a septum deviation? I hope you are reading this. I would very much appreciate your answer. Best wishes.

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Old 04-20-2013, 02:23 PM   #5
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

I don't think my septum is deviated, but I'm not positive. I did have a cat scan of my sinuses when I was 13 or so due to chronic sinus infections, but they didn't see anything worth mentioning.

I think it happens significantly more frequently when I have a cold, though it's been a while since I had one so I can't be sure. It's been going on for at least a few years, probably since around the time my migraines started (though never in tandem with the migraines), I've just never gotten around to thinking about it much until recently. I'm sorry I can't give you more suggestions backed by my own personal experience with the nose pain. It's too brief for me to do any experimentation, so the best I can do is assume it's related to the cause of my migraines. But even if it isn't, I still think "keep trying new things and keep a journal" is the best advice for any ailment the doctors can't/won't figure out.

Nicotine spray or an unflavored (or maybe menthol) e-cigarette would still be one of my first suggestions (tobacco smoke has so much other junk in it I'm not surprised it's an irritant for you). Something even simpler would be a hypertonic (not merely isotonic) saline solution: just a few teaspoons of non-iodized salt and baking soda in distilled water (not tap water or spring water! Google "naegleria fowleri" for the gruesome details on why distilled is best.) I use it whenever I have a cold, tilting my head down and filling up my sinuses as much as possible. It burns intensely, but I suppose you may be used to that by now. Even if the decongesting action doesn't help, it might help via desensitizing.

If it seems to be frequently triggered by environmental factors, have you tried allergy medicines? Not claritin or zyrtec, but the big guns: diphenhydramine and doxylamine. The side effects might not be tolerable severe but if the maximum dose of either one has no effect (or indeed a large effect), that at least tells you something.

And if that doesn't work and messing around with blood flow to the area doesn't accomplish much, perhaps it is nerve issue after all (which of course is not the same thing as being a psychosomatic issue!) There are a *lot* of different kinds of drugs out there being used to treat nerve pain. Some are neutrotransmitter reuptake inhibitors (antidepressants, especially the tricyclic varieties as I recall), some are atypical antipsychotics, some are potassium channel blockers, some are sodium channel blockers, some are anti-epileptics, some are mood stabilizers, some work on GABA receptors, etc. They're all hit or miss, but with such a long list you've got a pretty good chance for at least one 'hit'.

The nerve block test sounds like a good idea if you can afford it. In addition to having a better idea of the cause, if worse came to worst you could probably find a way to numb it for prolonged periods, or maybe even sever it surgically (would it really be such a big deal to have a numb spot on your nose/face? Just as long as you could still smell.) Basically there's plenty more things you can try, so don't give up! if you do reach a point where you're feeling <like giving up>, that's all the more reason to consider the crazier sounding solutions.

According to the rules we're not supposed to mention illegal drugs, so I should emphasize that cocaine can actually be legally prescribed in the USA for the purposes of numbing, so that's worth mentioning that as well. It severely constricts blood vessels and it's extremely numbing (this is where "-caine" anesthetics are derived.) "Crazy", you say? Very, but if you've exhausted all other options it's certainly not any crazier than living in severe pain and severe depression. Another extreme option: with a lot of searching you might find a doctor willing to prescribe opioid analgesics, which are of course incredibly addictive and potentially deadly, but if you tried everything else and it comes down to that--unbearable pain or a lifelong opioid dependency--it's certainly worth considering the latter.

As you can see, I'm good at coming up with a broad range of potential solutions of varying degrees of plausibility / sanity. Figuring out what's causing it could help you find a solution but I think it's more likely to just stumble upon a solution by trying something new every other day of the week. In recent years I've found that's actually rather good advice for almost any problem in life... it rarely matters why things happen or what your initial reactions to them are, it just matters that you keep trying new approaches until one day you blindly stumble onto what is more often than not a ridiculously simple solution. Or maybe I just watch too much House.

Anyway, good luck.


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Old 04-21-2013, 12:16 PM   #6
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

Thank you.... I thought of the severing nerve.... but i can't numb all nerves in both nostrils, because then i will feel no air passing through my nose and feel like suffocating. this is what brings me in fear mostly... because it seems like the pain is both nerves that innervate the nostril, from the way it irradiates...both in my forehead and throat. and lately on both sides... but i'll keep trying... lately i've read about a novelty treatment that reverses central sensitization to some extent...in some cases completely. it gives me hope. because i think because i waited so much in pain it only made it worse and harder to treat.

in your case it might be from the migraines... do you have the migraines on the same side with your nose pain? i've found for example this a couple of weeks ago

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Old 04-21-2013, 10:12 PM   #7
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

Yeah, it's on the same side as my migraines. My migraines are obviously vascular in nature. It's kinda weird in that there are two *completely opposite* ways I can fight it: I can take a TON of caffeine and keep myself as stimulated as possible (constricting the blood vessels), or I can take an opioid like hydrocodone and stay relaxed in a nice dark, quiet environment (which should theoretically be dilating the blood vessels.) The second one works much better but I usually end up doing the first because I don't feel like fighting with doctors to prescribe me medication for a condition they can't detect. I'm fortunate in that I only average maybe half a dozen per year, though. Actually I don't think I've had any this past year, ever since I started vaping nicotine whenever I felt that odd pre-migraine feeling coming on.

Just because it is radiating doesn't necessarily mean it's a nerve issue or a widespread issue. Google "referred pain." The problem could be in one specific area, and if that one area is numbed the rest will go away. The big question is whether that problem is a viral infection, a vascular problem, an autoimmune / allergy / inflamation problem, or a nerve problem.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:29 AM   #8
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

Oh my gosh, I can discuss with you better than with any doctor and I've seen dozens! It makes me crazy that these doctors keep telling me that I'm neurotic and that I spend too much time with it... I just try to figure it out on my own, because no one is helping me and this is my only chance to get better in this life... but for most it seems very hard to understand.

Yesterday I tried to buy nicotine gum but they don't import it anymore in my country... maybe I can get it from somewhere else, I really hope to be able to try it.

I began more and more to believe that it's migraine related.... as for example page 102 in the link below...i used to suffer from really bad headaches/migraines at the top and crown of my head before i had my septoplasty. probably my trigeminal nerve became oversensitive due to these migraines and my sensitive trigeminal nerve in the nose got exposed after my breathing improved, and then the never-ending cycle began. I read that this central sensitization can very hardly be reversed.... but I found some information about high doses of Ketamine that "reboot" the central nervous system to become maybe at least how I was a year before when only one nostril hurt... this gives me hope to not give up.Please protect yourself from cold air and treat your migraine so that you don't risk to become like me. I thank you very much for your messages and I wish you the best!

In my latest post I wanted to post a link but it didn't work. you can go to the link also if you google: cold air migraine sinus (at page 102)

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whenever I felt that odd pre-migraine feeling coming on.
by "that feeling" you mean the burning in your left nostril, right?

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Old 06-12-2013, 04:09 PM   #9
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

ALERT!
Have you not seen an ENT? What you are experiencing sounds very much like a turbinate dysfunction. Very uncomfortable depending on the turbinate affected and its dysfunction. You need an ENT specialist. There are conditions related specific to your symptomatology.

 
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Old 09-11-2013, 06:20 PM   #10
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

Hi dear,
Upon reading your post, I realized that our experiences are very similar.
I started to have a burning pain in the left side of my nose 7 years ago. I had a stressful year with exams and so I started to feel this pain occasionally. At first it would only last for 20-30 seconds and it was excruciating. But eventually the degree of the pain diminished but the time that I had the pain increased and I was like this for 3 and a half years. during these years I went to many doctors and they prescribed this "gel" for me to use but it was useless. One doctor told me that the cause of pain is strictly stress. If I don't feel any stress then the pain will go away. After the first 3 year and a half of this pain, I went to live in Canada. In Canada I took independent action and engaged in "nature therapy". Everyday I would go to botanic gardens, walk, breath the fresh air, smell the flowers ,and also I believed in the power of positive thinking and prayer and so I did a lot of those two things too. After this nature therapy for 4 months or so, the pain completely went away for 2 years and a half. Just 5 months ago, I had very negative life experiences. Certain things happened in my life that very upset me. I was crying a lot, I became sleepless and had a lot of stress and trauma.
And so that led to me experiencing the pain again. it started just 1 month ago. So you see: the first time I had this pain was 7 years ago after I had a lot of stress with exams. I had it for 3 and a half years and then engaged in nature therapy and the pain went away for 2 and a half years. then again 5 months ago I had major stress and so now again the pain in the left of my nose has come back and after a week it was in the left side of my head as well.
Now I am in Australia and I have gone to the doctor here. the doctor has given me this: "Avamys spray". After 3 weeks of using it, not only have I not lost my pain but I have found new pain in the right side of my nose. When I have this pain, I cannot speak properly, I cannot brush my teeth and even drinking water is hard!
I understand you and feel for you that it is a very depressing pain and the thing about it is that virtually nobody understands you! even the doctors don't know what it is and dont understand. But we should keep in mind that we can not afford to become depressed because depression will only make it worse and we need to keep in mind this very important and true principle of our world: For every illness there is a cure.
If you know of any solution or medication that works, please let me know.
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Old 09-21-2013, 05:14 PM   #11
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Re: burning nose pain while breathing in, stinging feeling in left nostril

Finally I've found something online about this. This has been the bane of my existence for the past 3 months. It began randomly one day and has persisted ever since.

Symptoms:
-pain in right nostril only when breathing in, comes and goes throughout the day (possibly dictated by which nasal passage is dominant at the time; ie, if left nasal passage is dominant then not as much air is entering right nasal passage making pain too minimal to detect).
-when I feel around inside right nostril with finger I feel no pain at all, nothing out of the ordinary, yet when I apply a cream (moisturizer or cortisporin, or anything else) to the inside of my nostril the pain isn't there when I breathe in.
-this is either new or I just never noticed it until now, but I have been hearing popping noises in the proximity of my right nostril, leading me to think this is somehow linked to a sinus infection -- despite the fact I have none of the symptoms of a sinus infection.

I'm baffled by this and have been procrastinating hoping it would go away before going to a doctor as the first doctor I went to simply prescribed me cortisporin (which i later realized was no better help than moisturizer or olive oil or anything else that could cover the inside of my nasal passage) and told me to get an xray (which I didn't bother doing, as that would only show bone structure, not even the cartilage).

I really don't think this is stress related to me considering I experience virtually no stress in my life at all. I've considered allergies but each time I think I've found the culprit I realize that it couldn't have been it at all, so I've mostly ruled out allergies at this point.

 
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... when I apply a cream (moisturizer or cortisporin, or anything else) to the inside of my nostril the pain isn't there when I breathe in.
Might that be a long term solution?

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Old 09-22-2013, 11:48 AM   #13
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Might that be a long term solution?

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It's a bandaid solution and hopefully won't be a longterm solution as I don't fancy a life of having oils/creams in my nostril all day, it feels better than pain but it's not a very nice feeling and I don't imagine it's very good for my nostril either in terms of helping to possibly breed bacteria or other nasty consequences to it.

 
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Well, sometimes "keeping ahead of the pain" through babying an area, allows our body to heal itself and after weeks of being pain/discomfort free, that may suffice for the symptom to vanish because an over sensitive area's now healed.

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Well, sometimes "keeping ahead of the pain" through babying an area, allows our body to heal itself and after weeks of being pain/discomfort free, that may suffice for the symptom to vanish because an over sensitive area's now healed.

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Yeah, I had about 2 weeks where I applied creams consistently and I got confident at the end of that and stopped and a few days later the pain came back with a vengeance. But you may be right, if I begin and stick to a regimen for a month or more perhaps I could get this under control.

 
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