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Old 02-08-2009, 09:59 AM   #1
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Sleep disorder caused by bad posture?

About a year ago, I started sleeping on a fouton that was way too soft (wasn't designed to be used as a bed). After a few weeks I began having jaw pain and clicking and occasionally even getting lockjaw. Not too long after this I began having intense sinus pain and pressue. Back pain progressively increased and depression kicked in soon thereafter. I feel fatigued all the time, constantly anxious and stressed out. I'm always in a haze and can not find any joy out of life. Looking at recent pictures of myself and in the mirror, my posture has been extremely compromised, most likely due to the shoddy fouton that I slept on.

My main issue is concerning my sleep patterns. Anyone and everyone that has seen me sleep or slowly fall asleep complains of me snoring extremely loudly. I am by no means overweight and only drink and smoke occasionally. While sleeping, I feel as if I am waking from a bad dream gasping for breath, but I never actually dream. Or, at least, I can never remember them. After the momentary awakening I fall back asleep only to wake up additional times throughout the night. When I wake up I never feel rested. I have heard apnea can cause depression, fatigue, fibromyalgia, and many people teeth grind during apnea episodes (I am a grinder). What can I do about this? Is my posture/bad back causing this? Could it be apnea?

I am seeing a psychologist sometime in early March. Hopefully he will be able to help me out with this issue.

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Re: Sleep disorder caused by bad posture?

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...After a few weeks I began having jaw pain and clicking and occasionally even getting lockjaw.
Clicking joints, in particular the jaw, are symptoms of Lyme Disease, as well as the other symptoms you mention. I would suggest you consider getting specialized testing done (by Igenex Labs as the Elisa most docs use is so inaccurate that many think it should be banned).

Panic and anxiety attacks, mood disorders and other psychiatric complaints are symptoms of this disease...although I value the skills of psychologists and psychiatrists, I think it unlikely they will be of use...best consult with a Lyme Literate Medical Doctor to rule out lyme...because if you don't, and it is lyme, you may experience years of unnecessary pain and suffering that could have been avoided.

Bethsheba

PS People who have undiagnosed Lyme often post here before getting a diagnosis....your post is not unusual.

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Re: Sleep disorder caused by bad posture?

I've had blood work done by my general pracititioner, not exactly looking for lyme disease. But wouldn't that have shown up on the labs? I don't have any rashes on my skin either. Lyme disease sounds very unlikely at this point. Additionally, where could I have possibly contracted such a disease? Don't they come from ticks? Which come from deers, mostly?

My brother is experiencing similar symptoms, because I was unaware of the detrimental effects of the fouton and foolishly let him sleep on it. He now has horrible posture, bad back, chronic fatigue, snores a lot; when I listen to him sleep, I can definitely note that he has apnea episodes. Holds his breath for a few seconds and then seems to gasp or choke for air. After doctor jumping for several months now, I'm overwhelmed.

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I've had blood work done by my general pracititioner, not exactly looking for lyme disease. But wouldn't that have shown up on the labs?
No, it wouldn't. Like prescription medications, lab tests can be patented so not every lab can perform every test. Doctors often test for Lyme using the Elisa because it is easy to do and relatively cheap, but some have come out and said to do away with it due to it's unreliability. The Center for Communicable Disease and international lyme specialists advocate diagnosis and treatment by SYMPTOMS as the tests are unreliable.

Some say less than 30 percent get a rash..although getting a bullseye rash is the one defining symptom, you can have Lyme without getting the rash.

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....Lyme disease sounds very unlikely at this point.
I think Lyme is very possible...clicking and popping joints are classic symptoms of lyme...and I have not seen any other diagnosis in which the clicking and popping joints responded to treatment except for lyme. That's not to say other diseases can't cause clicking and popping joints...it's just that I am unaware of them and I have been reading these boards for over 2 years.

You can be born with Lyme Disease and it can lie dormant for years even decades...you can get it through sexual transmission and theoretically, blood transfusions. Although at least 5 different ticks can transmit the disease (the deer tick is only one tick transmitter), other insects can infect humans as well.

It is not uncommon for many family members to have this disease...as I've mentioned, you can be born with it if your mother was infected by the "bug". But I suspect that because you and your brother are both expereincing symptoms at the same time, you may have been exposed walking, hiking, biking, camping, or whatever in the same area. I might add here that I knew 3 professional women who acquired Lyme disease...they didn't remember getting bitten and they didn't get rashes, either...but they all lived on wooded city lots.

I am not a doctor and I have no intention of diagnosing you...however, I am bringing this to your attention because if you choose to ignore this possibility, your symptoms may very well escalate, and hopefully, you will remember something I have told you.

When Lyme goes undiagnosed for a long period of time, it becomes much more difficult to treat and some damage becomes permenant. You might ask yourself if you are willing to take that chance...more on the Lyme boards.

Take care and let us know how you fare.

Bethsheba

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Re: Sleep disorder caused by bad posture?

betsheba, now that I think about it, Lyme disease may be very likely. I think it may have spread to my nervous system, which is why I always feel a tingly and burning sensation which I often assume is tension due to stress. The right side of my face seems to be more "flaccid" than my left but I'm so tense that I adjust it by lifting it up a bit.

Although my psychologist couldn't do much to treat it, could I bring it up to him and expect him to talk to my mom about taking me back to my GP?

 
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