I feel like they are rippng us off too Cindy. But if it wasn't for them, I doubt I'd be a non smoker right now! LOL! So, I guess we do owe them that, but they do keep jacking the price up tho. Like you said, they know some of us will get hooked on it.

Actually our health plan, (kaiser) will give it to us free of charge, for up to a whole year now. But first you have to take their classes, which is either once a week for 8 weeks, or one big condensed course, given in 4 hours, I think. Well, I took the class 2 x already. Trouble was, I made friends with other ladies there, and then we hung out together. We even got a few of the ppl from our last class, and we all met at a coffee shop each week, and thought that would help, we'd support one another. As soon as one of my girlfriends in that group started smoking again, I caved, and smoked again as well. (she's still my friend, and she can't believe I quit for over a year now) So I thought, no more smoking cessation courses for me.

I also took the classes at the base hospital (years ago) at least 5 X. (fee gum and patches there too) That was back in the '80's and early 90's. I think in those days I wasn't truly wanting to quit, but was giving into cries and pleas from my kids and other family members. This time I was really ready. But it's a good deal, if you want to get the free gum. (well, you pay your co pay)
Oh Cindy, that's terrible girl about your hot flashes! I know some friends have told me they are so awful. And my mom, poor thing, really suffered. That's why she stayed on Estrogen for like 16 years. She tried to quit them for a couple of yrs, but they returned with a vengence. There's a women on our thyroid board here who claims she has hers under control by taking flax seed supplements, or oil, or something. You can get that at a health food store. I thought I heard vitamin E for them also?

Have you tried going to a health food store and asking the ppl that work there what is good? Those ppl are pretty knowlegable, and they know from what other customer's tell them what works well. I'm sorry Cindy, I hope you can find something to help that. Do you just have them all day?

prayers for you (((((hugstoo)))))
How many days now without lozenge?
Deda