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Old 01-26-2004, 04:06 AM   #1
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Pain

Hi

I'm a bit worried that so many of you are concerned with pain. Pain is no more than an emotion. Childbirth is arguably the greatest pain yet, but would any women forgo that experience for the pain? If childbirth creates the greatest pain can one say that pain is bad? Could one go on to say that pain is good? In the case of childbirth yes one can. Is childbith spiritual? Yes. Each an everyone of us has succumbed to pain in its many forms. Is it harmful? Of course not. So many of you if not all of you <shudder> worry about which doctor is going to give you this mg or that mg of drugs. Pain is your bodies voice talking to you. It is the greatest voice you can listen to. Don't take drugs to dampen your own voice. I wont say by listening to your own voice you wont feel the pain but I will say the pain wont hurt. Its an emotion not pain.

Ask yourself why Americans feel pain more than most? Maybe you guys are out of touch? I register pain. Its a part of me. How can me hurt me? I would be stupid to do that, right? Accept the pain as an emotion, work with the emotion, work with your body to heal. You are one, mind, body and soul. Be positive, accepting pain is a negative. Let pain be your mate, love your pain, If you love it how can it hurt you? I registered the feeling of pain, I accepted it and discarded it. How can I hurt myself... I can't. Unless I wish to... Do you?

Ditch the drugs guys, unless you wish to hurt.

Toughen up, please.

Love and Health

Hugo (F c456 recently without painkillers)

 
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:21 AM   #2
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Re: Pain

Maybe I am misreading this - but it sounds like you are generalizing pain.

What you feel may not be what someone else feels.

I gave birth three times - all were different, but it was the last birth that gave me insight into the pain other women had been telling me about.

I completely respect my pain and others' pain. I can understand that you feel mighty that you went through your surgery without pain meds. But don't belittle those of us who did. I feel mighty having gone through the surgery and being back at work.

I have a very high tolerance for pain - always have. Prior to this surgery I was taking pain killers every 4 hours without fail, even through the night. I don't think less of myself because I did.

 
Old 01-26-2004, 02:37 PM   #3
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Re: Pain

I find it hard to respond to your message that pain is possibly good, and just an emotion, other than the fact that pain can elicit a response which means one tends to help oneself or at least find out the source of the pain symptom.

However, pain as a positive outcome I find difficult to accept. Just because I too have a high pain tolerance and can treadmill for an hour five times a week, regardless of the two spinal chord compressions I suffer in the cervical and lumbar area, doesn't mean I have to like it. Definitely I have learned to work with my pain, tolerate my pain, explore my pain and minimize it by rationalization and more often than not, drug free. I am blessed i think with that ability.

The ability you have "Hugo..", DonnaKay has, and i feel I have to a degree, doesn't mean others have that strength. My best friend is my age, in her 40's with two kids, a hubby and trying to make a life for herself through suffering the debilitation and pain of M.S. She "smokes", takes morphine, and other drugs in order to sustain some semblance of coherency each day through the pain. The pain of cervical disc herniation and spinal chord pain (like many of us have had) is the same as the lesions caused on the nerve endings from M.S. I have had a difficult time since my injury complaining on any level to her about my pain, although she is fully appreciative, but I would never, as they say tell her to "suck it up".

If I had not known my pain was mechanical and was fixable within reason and not known there was a conceivable minimizing of my pain or potential eradication of it, I probably would have found it hard to minimize the pain I suffered. My friend and many others like her who suffer progressive long term pain don't have this intellectual luxury.

So be A LOT careful when you generalize (as DonnaKay) said. We'll all like each other's input and we all have a right to be proud of our abilities but yours too could be judged in terms of exactly what kind of pain it is you too suffer. I like the fact that you ask us to contemplate our pain and work with it, clearly that is everyone's option, but try telling that to our ballet director's mother who had ALS and couldn't swallow at the end to save her life.


Just a thought.

Nearly new... Nero

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Old 01-26-2004, 04:11 PM   #4
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Talking Re: Pain

Quote:
Originally Posted by hugo eve

Ask yourself why Americans feel pain more than most?

Hugo (F c456 recently without painkillers)


That is a very odd question, Hugo. If I move up to Canada and become a citizen
there, will I be in less pain because I'm Canadian?

 
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Re: Pain

Hugo eve, please come back and talk to us and let us know how yoou are doing.
We miss you.
Hope everything is going well for you..
Rolex

 
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