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Old 01-29-2007, 07:03 PM   #1
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Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

Hi all. Thanks to the Gods at Google, I just found this board. I am hoping that you kind souls can help a clueless newbie interpret her MRI results and determine if I should stress out or not. I have three weeks before I go back to my specialist, but I am so impatient I had the tech read my MRI results to me over the phone. So please tell me if this means I have anything to worry about:

"There is small disc protrusion and uncovertrable joint with hypertrophy from C5 - C6 and from C6 to C7.
There is Moderate central canal stenosis. Also, moderate left and mild right neural and foraminal narrowing at the C6 and C7."

I'm sure there is more, but that's the what I got from her today. I really just want to know what in the heck is going on with me and what can I expect my doctors to do next.

For background purposes, here's my story thus far..... In Feb last year I started having shoulder and neck pain. Shoulder actually got to the point of being frozen at times. I brushed it off as bursitis, thinking it would go away when it warmed up. It didn't. In May, I saw my primary doctor and she ordered an X-ray, then an MRI. I was told I had a torn rotator cuff and to go see an orthopaedic surgeon. This doctor spent a whopping 15 minutes with me. He read my MRI and talked with me, and I did a few exercises for him to demonstrate my lack of mobility. He didn't suspect a rotator cuff tear, but the fluid build-up around the shoulder concerned him a little, so it was off to physical therapy.

PT was actually good, but much longer than anticipated. They suspected poor posture was the real culprit, so I did a total of 6 months of reconditioning, core training, and stretching. After a while, my progress plateaued though, so no more PT. It wasn't three weeks before the pain returned with a vengeance. Back to the OS, who sent me to a Physical Med and Rehabilitation doc. Thank goodness! I think we may finally get to the bottom of this now.

I have a fairly consistent burning sensation at the base of my neck and neck pain. The pain spreads to the tops of my shoulders and I have intermittent tingling and coldness in my left hand. My spine sort of locks up regularly (feels like a big knot right in the middle) and my neck muscles get really tight. My left arm weakened again quickly after all the hard PT work I did to strengthen it! I have a lot of tender points, particularly in my upper back area and around my shoulder blades. And even throughout the PT I've had stiffness and limited flexibility with my lower back. I have used a heating pad as a crutch most all summer and fall, gave it up around Christmas, and as the pain is flairing up again, I'm craving to get it back (and trying not to - I've heard it's not really good for me).

My new doc wanted me to go back to PT, but only to a McKenzie certified specialist. Problem is that there are just a few in my area and I just took a brand new job in another city, so I commute 4 hours per day 3-4 days/week. Making it to these folks' office during "business" hours has been impossible. I really want to go back to my old PTs, as they were great people, know me and my problems, and have perfect hours for my crazy schedule. I will probably be in the doghouse big time when I go back to the doc, but I have been trying to keep up with my limited exercise routine.

My problems haven't been enough to make me stop my life activities yet - but they've definitely slowed me down and made life uncomfortable. I show horses in the spring/summer. I'm not ready to sacrifice that hobby and don't want another uncomfortable summer.

Will someone please help me interpret my MRI results? Any similar problems out there? Any advice at all? Thanks!

 
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:26 AM   #2
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

I'm checking in with the board again after a few days away. No responses, bummer. I suppose I was way too long-winded before with my story.

What I'd like to know is, what expectations should I have regarding treatment for something like my case? What can I expect my doctor to want me to do? As I mentioned, she already asked me to do PT again with a McKenzie specialist, but that was before we had MRI results. She really didn't know yet what's going on. Based on all the experience you guys have had (and from reading your threads I see you are very well educated!), do you think my MRI results are anything I should be concerned about?

I think I'm just looking for some words of advice or thoughts from people who have "been there". I want to know if I'm just jumping the gun and making my neck pain issues bigger than they really are. Maybe I'm just getting old. Thanks.

 
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

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I'm checking in with the board again after a few days away. No responses, bummer. I suppose I was way too long-winded before with my story.

What I'd like to know is, what expectations should I have regarding treatment for something like my case? What can I expect my doctor to want me to do? As I mentioned, she already asked me to do PT again with a McKenzie specialist, but that was before we had MRI results. She really didn't know yet what's going on. Based on all the experience you guys have had (and from reading your threads I see you are very well educated!), do you think my MRI results are anything I should be concerned about?

I think I'm just looking for some words of advice or thoughts from people who have "been there". I want to know if I'm just jumping the gun and making my neck pain issues bigger than they really are. Maybe I'm just getting old. Thanks.
Your neck/shoulder/arm history sounds a lot like mine. I spent 15 years battleing it, with PT, Chiros, Epidural Injections, etc. All offered only temporary relief, and I got accustomed to the pain. For a long time neurosurgeons said my neck was just "old", but was not a surgery candidate. The most recent one showed distinct worsening, so now I will be having ACDF at C4/5 and C5/6 next Wednesday.

Keep in mind that I am not an MD, but here goes:
In terms of your MRI results, the disks between your C5-C6 (and apparently C6-C&) are bulging outward, but are still contained within the membrane. Your disks have not herniated, and these bulges are considered minor. However, you facet joints, which are the bony areas on the posterior side of the spinal canal, are enlarged (hypertrophy), which is an arthritic type of process. The combination of the small disc bulge and the the enlarged facet joints is that your spinal canal has been moderately "squeezed" or narrowed at these levels (stenosis). This has also caused narrowing of the channel through which the spinal nerves exit at the C6-C7 level (foramina). This is mild on the right side, and moderate on the left.

The kicker with any MRI report is the subjective interpretation of "moderate" and "mild". The severity of symptoms is an indicator of whether and to what extent your spinal cord and spinal nerves are being compressed. At minimum, you should see a NS for a consult. They may well have you continue to pursue conservative non-surgical remedies, but may not. Long term constriction of spinal cord and spinal nerves can cause permanent damage.

In my case, the limitation of movement and now constant pain finally allowed me to pull the trigger on surgery while I am still young enough to recover reasonably quickly. (I am 51 -- so not really "young")

HTH. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

very very good explanation there OG,really. i do totally argerr with you needing to seek out a good neurosurgeon for this.do not go with an ortho tho,stick with the neurosurgeon,they are far more knowledgeable within that specific area.the c spine is much much more highly innervated than at any other place within the entire spinal column,this is why you need the knowledge and expertise of an experienced NS.

you DO need to check out the central canal stenosis as far as how bad this really is,this needs attention if it is starting to actually change or even touch the actual spinal cord.the longer this goes on,the worse it will get since stenosis is a progrssive condition.the other areas also just need to be evaluated to see how severe any of what was stated on that report truley is.like OG said,it IS highly relative to the person who is reading your films as far as what is and isn't severe or moderate or if they actually even saw everything that your NS will when he takes a good hard look at your films.they WILL need those hard films for you to bring with you.no really good NS will ever just look at any other rad report and go by that alone,if they do,run,run as fast as you can outta that place.that would not be any NS i would ever want touching any patient,espescially me,lol.

you have gotten some really greta advice here.just see what a good neurosurgeon decides to do when he sees you and your films.its all up to you really as far as what YOU feel is acceptable or not acceptable.how much of your life is going to change if you don't have the surgery or do,you know what i mean?good luck and please keep us all posted here as far as what you decide to do,this is a really great place for support.marcia
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Old 02-02-2007, 09:32 AM   #5
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

feelbad said,

...do not go with an ortho tho,stick with the neurosurgeon,they are far more knowledgeable within that specific area...


Please, let's not start this neuro/ortho discussion again!

feelbad, you have been around here long enough to know that this has been argued over and over again, and the end result is that it makes no difference, as long as they are spine specialists.

If you want to state your opinion, please do so but make it clear that it is your opinion.

New posters need to understand this, in that they may not have a choice, particularly if it is an insurance referral.

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Old 02-03-2007, 12:23 PM   #6
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

Thank you all for taking the time to respond to me and provide the explanations. I appreciate it - it's going to help me ask the right questions of my doctor when I go back to see her soon. Having time ahead to make sure I develop my list of concerns will ensure I get the most out of my visit.

I was hoping this was just a blip on the radar - meaning maybe I just woke up on the wrong side of the bed one day, LOL. A girl can dream, right? And it may well be not so bad. I'm only 38 years old, so I shouldn't be too bad off. I understand what you're saying about the subjective interpretation of the person reading my films. At least I now sort of understand what's going on and why I feel so bad. I just wish the tingling/numbness and weakness in my left hand would go away. That's so annoying right now!

In the meantime, I invested today in a good cervical neck pillow to help me sleep. I've also taken it easy at the gym, only walking on the treadmill until I start to feel it in my back. (About 30-45 minutes). Because I haven't been able to go back to see my old PT, and can't get an appointment w/the one my doctor requested, I instead bought McKenzie's "7 Steps to Treating Your Own Back and Neck" book. I've been doing the neck exercises on my own, but haven't really gotten consistent with it. When I do the ones that pull my neck backward, I feel the pull and twinge all the way down my arm and it hurts some. Because of that, I'm sort of scared to continue with my "self-treatment".

I hurt really bad in my upper back yesterday. Does anything think if I went to a regular day spa for a muscle massage that would hurt me any?

Thanks again for the responses. Any other ideas and advice is most appreciated. I'll be sure to update with my true diagnosis when I get it.

 
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

sorry there dennis,i didn't mean to step on toes.i have stated before that this was my opinion but not alwyas and that was my bad.i do have alot of respect for orthos,really.i have a wonderful one who has been doing a fantastic job on my knee and my low back,but the c spine area is very very highly innervated,very different area from the rest of the spinal column for many reasons,unless a specialist has alot of actual hands on experience in working within this specific area,there can be some big issues there.thats all i am saying.really.and in alot of cases,the only type of specialist who has that extensive type of knowledge is indeed a neurosurgeon.that doesn't mean that a neuro is THE ONLY type,just the most likely one to have that level of expertise.there are also spinal specialists besides the orthos too.as long as they have knowledge and experience in that area and i felt comfortable with that,i would have no problems with it.i have just heard alot of people who have had their surgeries on their c spines done by orthos who really didn't see certain signs of upcoming problems since they were just too inexperienced in that particular area to recognize them.this can happen with neuros too,thats why you need the most experienced and knowledgeable type of any specialist,and in "most" cases,that would be the neuro.

what this all boils down to really is the overall experience and knowledge of the surgeon him or herself in the area that you are considering for surgery,whoever that may be.i don't think i deserved to be slammed for having an experienced opinion in this particular matter tho.anyone with c spine issues should at some point at least be evaluated by a good neurosurgeon.that part i wouldn't give in to.getting different or second opinions from various docs really does let you see possible options and they also can pick upon other things that other docs may not be seeing.

i really am sorry if i touched on what you feel is a sore subject.i would just hate to see someone end up with an ortho whos real expertixse is not in that c spine area end up with some sort of permanent disability.you need experience and knowledge,thats all,and you tend to go with who normally works within that area.sorry if things didn't come out the right way dennis,i was only trying to provide infromation based on my experiences and others i know.But do you preface everything you state in your posts as "this is only my opinion but"????if you do not then please do not slam me for doing the same thing,okay?i will try to be more within guidelines that i did not realize existed here,or maybe i wont post at all anymore.marcia
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Old 02-04-2007, 08:53 AM   #8
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

Marcia...

Don't you dare quit posting! You have provided great information to me and many others. I so appreciate your input everytime you've provided it to me. You gave me confidence to listen to my symptoms and not let the doctors make me think it was all in my head...that's why I pushed and pushed for another MRI which lo and behold reveals cord compression. Oh, by the way, this is my opinion - really I think that should be obvious. For the most part, I think we are all patients, not experts, trying to help and give input to others based on our own experiences. People can heed the advice or not, don't you think? In my opinion, it seems a little bit petty to get caught up in the semantics of it all. I really think the motivation of everyone here is just to help and provide support and experience-based advice. Just my 2 cents. I am fairly new to this board and it has been a wonderful resource to me - I really appreciate everyone's input. Mona

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Old 02-04-2007, 03:20 PM   #9
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Feelbad, please don't stop posting. I think everyone's 2 cents is a valuable asset. Each opinion may help save someone else from a mistake or give them an idea they had not thought of. I respect the ortho's as I know many of them specialize in C spine. My doctor is from a large group (19 doctors total) of mainly orthopaedics. I initally was referred to them by a chiropracter. He referred me to their general orthopaedic/sports medicine doc. After trying many things, he finally said he was ready to refer me on to one of the surgeons. He initially was going to send me to the Orthopaedic Spine surgeon in the group but then changed his mind and sent me to their Neurosurgeon. I can only guess that it was because of my particular situation going on in my neck. Perhaps this is a question that should be posed to the doctor referring you to the surgeon, "Why are you sending me to an Orthopaedic versus Neurosurgeon" or vice versa.

Anyway each to his own opinion. I thought that was what these boards were for. To give personal experiences and opinions. It all boils down to being well informed when you are starting a journey....

 
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I am going to make this short and sweet.

My surgery was completely successful. My surgeon was an orthopedic spine specialist who also teaches surgery techniques at a local university and has written numerous papers on techniques for C-Spine surgery. He worked with Medtronic on the development of the NIM-Spine™ System which monitors nerve roots during surgery to indicate if there is an irritation occuring. He also worked on the development of Infuse Bone Graft with Medtronic.

My surgery was part of an FDA study of BPM for use in patients with multi-level fusion with donor bone.

This whole discussion of which is better should be taken to another forum. I think that it is wrong to say one is better than the other. The point that was made in the past is that it really depends on experience and success ratio. There are bad nero's as well as bad orthos.

You all should consider one thing when posting these opinions, first and foremost in your mind should be the hundreds of people coming here for information, scared about an upcoming surgery, and having been referred to one or the other surgeon types. Now, what are they to do? You have told them that the ortho surgeon they have been referred to isn't qualified to do their surgery.

Second, please be clear that if you post something that is negative against an approach, that you state that it is your opinion.

Honestly, we should just stop posting these type of opinions. It's just not fair to others.

BTW, if you take this as a slam, then so be it. You are stating an opinion in such a way that it excludes all other's. It is my opinion that's not appropriate. I have no issues with you personally, and you should not take it personal. If you do, then I can't do anything about that.

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I am going to make this short and sweet.

My surgery was completely successful. My surgeon was an orthopedic spine specialist who also teaches surgery techniques at a local university and has written numerous papers on techniques for C-Spine surgery. He worked with Medtronic on the development of the NIM-Spine™ System which monitors nerve roots during surgery to indicate if there is an irritation occuring. He also worked on the development of Infuse Bone Graft with Medtronic.

My surgery was part of an FDA study of BPM for use in patients with multi-level fusion with donor bone.

This whole discussion of which is better should be taken to another forum. I think that it is wrong to say one is better than the other. The point that was made in the past is that it really depends on experience and success ratio. There are bad nero's as well as bad orthos.

You all should consider one thing when posting these opinions, first and foremost in your mind should be the hundreds of people coming here for information, scared about an upcoming surgery, and having been referred to one or the other surgeon types. Now, what are they to do? You have told them that the ortho surgeon they have been referred to isn't qualified to do their surgery.

Second, please be clear that if you post something that is negative against an approach, that you state that it is your opinion.

Honestly, we should just stop posting these type of opinions. It's just not fair to others.

BTW, if you take this as a slam, then so be it. You are stating an opinion in such a way that it excludes all other's. It is my opinion that's not appropriate. I have no issues with you personally, and you should not take it personal. If you do, then I can't do anything about that.

Dennis
Well said Dennis.

I had SEVERE spinal stenosis at C4/5, C5/6 and C6/7 caused by 3 herniated disc's that herniated straight back into my spinal cord. According to my neurologist it had to have been there a very long time to be as bad as it was. I was referred to a SPINE SPECIALIST. An Orthopedic surgeon that does spinal surgeries. That is all he does. Nothing else. He doesn't operate on anything other than spines.

I wonder what kind of response I would get if I constantly told new people here that an Orthosurgeon is the only way to go because they are better trained in the alignment and of the bones of the spine and because of that, they are the better doctors to see?! I won't do such a thing.

Like Dennis has said, the important aspect is whatever doctor one chooses to see is one that has done countless cervical and lumbar surgeries, not a surgeon that is an ortho that does knee surgeries, nor a neurosurgeon that mainly does brain surgeries.

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Old 02-05-2007, 04:35 PM   #12
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Well said both of you!! I totally agree....

 
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I stand totally and completely by what i stated in my second post,which is of course,totally my own opinon.nuff said.Marcia

 
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Re: Newbie needs help with MRI results please!

Moonchaser,sorry we kind of got off track here with regards to your question on 'self treatment"?that,in some cases,can be dangerous.its just certain movements with certain types of ongoing damage and deterioration and with any stenosis in the central canal as you have,could in some cases,cause more damage than benefit.if you do want to do this,it really does need to at the very least,be monitored by someone who knows about it.i know you are waiting for just that,but it can lead to problems if you are not doing a particular excercise properly,you know what i mean?you just need to make certain first that what you are doing is plain safe with your type of c spine problems.i would be very hesitant myself to go ahead without the expertise of a good PT person telling me what is and isn't okay according to what i would have wrong in the c spine area first,thats all.

at least you are aware you actually have certain issues,alot of people don't have a clue what their particular issues are in there and get sent to PT only to find out much later that what they had been doing was actually causeing more damage.you just need to be very careful.

getting a good massage in most cases probably wouldn't hurt you as long as the person doing it knows to tred very lightly around the c spine area.but getting those tightened muscles all worked out in the upper back will probably help alot with the tightness and pain you can get from just c spine inflammation.just make sure you go to someone who has a good reputation.but a massage really can help,that i do know.

so what are your next steps here?what doc are you planning to see,or have you not gotten there yet?just one thing to remeber here,if they want todo anything within that central canal regarding the stenosis,it will have to be a neurosurgeon,just because of the area involved,i really don't think any other type of surgeon is actually allowed to go within that area as its too close to the actual spinal cord.but to take care of the other issues,just finding a good surgeon with alot of experience and overall knowledge will work for that.

its pretty much all up to you and what and who you feel the most comfortable with.alot will depend on just how severe the canal stenosis really is.and you always have the option of getting a second opinion with most insurance companies.i saw three seperate neurosurgeons before finding the one that actually had the best overall knowledge(that was the right information)of dealing with cavernous hemangiomas inside the cords and brains before i actually consented to having that removed.this was the head of neurosurgery at the U of Mn.he had thirty years of experience,and had done or assissted with hundreds of lesion resection surgerys within the cord.that was good enough for me.the big thing you need to ask any possible surgeon is how often they have done this type of surgery/how many procedures have they done?you are hiring these people to do your surgery and don't ever forget that you are the one who is in charge of who does that.you almost always have options in most cases.

sorry we didn't get your questions answered sooner.keep us posted on how things are going.just be very careful with any excercises,K?good luck,Marcia
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Old 02-07-2007, 04:12 PM   #15
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Hey there! I was just going to ask you all if we could make this all about me again just love one another and all that. I'm just kidding. Thank you to EVERYONE for your input. I literally have no one else to talk to who is educated in this area and it's been reassuring to know there are others out there in similar situations. As a "newbie" I am weirdly comforted in finding this forum. I look forward to coming here each day and reading the posts.

Thanks Marcia for the caution about doing the McKenzie exercises strictly out of the book. I did sort of stop doing them except for the super simple "turtle" neck stretch for a couple reasons. The first being I didn't know if it was good to feel shooting pains down my arm every time I did exercise 2 and also because my old PT said "you're doing what by yourself?" when I told her I bought the book and was taking a "screw everyone I'll fix myself" mentality. She echoed what you said about supervision, especially at first.

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at least you are aware you actually have certain issues,alot of people don't have a clue what their particular issues are in there and get sent to PT only to find out much later that what they had been doing was actually causeing more damage.you just need to be very careful.
I fear this actually may have happened to me somewhat. I was sent to PT the first time for a partially torn rotator cuff. The PT doubted it from the get-go thank goodness, thinking the problems were more postural related. One thing I've done though that maybe I shouldn't have been doing was working with weights. I just don't know - and in their defense, neither did they. My doc never said he wanted an update, or to see me again. I've initiated it all because I know my body better than anyone, and I know when something isn't right. Looks like I'm finding out just how right I was!

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getting a good massage in most cases probably wouldn't hurt you as long as the person doing it knows to tred very lightly around the c spine area.but getting those tightened muscles all worked out in the upper back will probably help alot with the tightness and pain you can get from just c spine inflammation.just make sure you go to someone who has a good reputation.but a massage really can help,that i do know.
I want to get a massage so bad! I am so busy with work, a four hour commute, taking care of my critters, and on top of that re-enrolled in college courses. Where I live, I don't know how educated a massage therapist might be, (it's sort of rural here) but I can definitely put a "stay away from my c spine area" condition in there. I think I might try and get a massage Friday night at the local upper tier salon.

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so what are your next steps here?what doc are you planning to see,or have you not gotten there yet?just one thing to remeber here,if they want todo anything within that central canal regarding the stenosis,it will have to be a neurosurgeon,just because of the area involved,i really don't think any other type of surgeon is actually allowed to go within that area as its too close to the actual spinal cord.but to take care of the other issues,just finding a good surgeon with alot of experience and overall knowledge will work for that.
I have to wait until 2/22 to go back to see my doctor. The doctor I am with now is a Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation specialist. I was referred to her by my orthopedic surgeon. I really like her, but I've only had my initial appointment with her. That was when she insisted on a cervical MRI and immediate consultation with a McKenzie-certified PT (that same day in fact).

I haven't been back to her since she got my MRI results. I am hoping that the fact that no one called me in a panic means she wasn't overly concerned right away by my results. She doesn't know yet that I haven't been able to do the McKenzie-based PT. My goal is to convince her to let me go back to my old PTs, or realistically, I can't see myself able to do any PT at all with my new work schedule and lifestyle. (My old PT has longer evening hours). To compound all this, I had to push the appointment back because with switching jobs, I'm in a 30 day window of no medical insurance. I just hope that I don't get hit with a "pre-existing condition" clause problem when I do start treatment again. My new insurance company is refusing to answer any questions for me until I pass my effective date with them. They are driving me nuts - I just want to know if I'll be covered or need to second mortgage the house. LOL. Anyway, I really hope my doctor doesn't bring up the "s" word - surgery. I hope that she wants to pursue non-surgical conservative treatment first. If she doesn't, I now know to definitely ask detailed questions about neurosurgeons and specialties!

A concern I do have about having to wait so long between appointments is that I'm noticing that weakness in my left arm seems to be continuing, and maybe even getting worse. I am consistently noticing the tingling and numbness in that hand too now. I'm trying to tell myself that it's really a problem and not "in my head" because I know a little more now. I can remember telling my old PT way last summer that I had a little tingling, but he thought it was probably just a nerve impingement due to something I'd done. It also was no where near as frequent as I notice now. I'd say I'm noticing it daily now, whereas last summer it was maybe once every two or three weeks.

One thing I haven't mentioned here is that the McKenzie PT I saw on my initial visit did a fibromyalgia test. I apparently tested positive for it - 18 out of 18 tender points. Is this common with c spine injuries and problems? Is this even a can of worms I want to open here? I guess I'm just curious to know if others have had this brought up with them too. I've asked my old PT for a second opinion. I know when it comes to fibro that many docs can have a "call it fibromyalgia in the end if we can't figure out where the pain comes from" mentality.

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sorry we didn't get your questions answered sooner.keep us posted on how things are going.just be very careful with any excercises,K?good luck,Marcia

No, my thanks are to you and everyone else who has kindly chipped in with encouraging words, options, and shared experiences. We may have differing opinions, but what we do share is a similar problem and desire to help others. For that, I'm grateful to you all.

 
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