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Old 03-11-2010, 03:41 PM   #16
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Re: Please help me read parts of my MRI & direct me on what I need to do

Hello - I sense your frustration, but here is what I would do based on my own experience. First, you are in pain - so that means to me your body is telling you to slow down - there is nothing wrong with you hanging back until you see the neurologist. Your symptoms can even increase from something as simple as a weather change, sleeping wrong, riding in a car, pretty much anything! This is the life we have, when our bodies have these things we are going to have symptoms. You don't seem to have the big red flag signs so just try to be patient. The Mobic wasn't even in your system long enough one way or the other to cause symptoms to get worse - so it is probably something more simple than that.

Who cares if the doctor says "resume your activities" obviously something is hurting - so don't. We patients sometimes need to be our own advocate to get to the bottom of our issues. There is no rush to see a neurosurgeon either because your case will most likely be treated conservatively like they do with almost everyone - except in extreme emergency - which doesn't look like to our laymen eyes to be an emergency. If the neurologist wants you to see a neurosurgeon they will arrange it and lots of the time they work in same practices together.

Please do report back what the neurologist's opinion is - let me tell you like I said in the beginning, an ounce of prevention is worth it, even the smallest bulges may cause symptoms and problems in some people depending on their anatomy, and for sure when you have the words "mass effect" on your report, it shouldn't just be dismissed by a primary care doctor and make sure it gets either dismissed as nothing by an expert in the spine or determined to be important. There are so many excellent primary care doctors out there, but I can tell you there are really some that are not good too. So I like to always ensure I have expert people making decisions on my difficult issues.

Let me warn you that sometimes a radiologist will read and report on a MRI and when the specialist looks them over they may agree, or disagree with the findings. Or even sometimes find things that were not seen by the radiologist. Or you may have a set of troubling symptoms that don't even match the xrays/mri. They do not treat the "MRI" they treat the patient and they need to look at all your clinical symptoms and the pictures and go from there.

PS: (not sure how ortho came in this picture - I think you are jumping all over the place and really need to get a good diagnosis and plan before you start doing all that, which means going tomorrow and getting the opinion of the neurologist and then proceeding from there. Just because other people on here go to neurosurgeon or orthopedic does not mean for you to begin making all these appointments. You do not have a firm diagnosis from an expert - which will come tomorrow.).

For questions just ask what does the report mean - have them explain what is going on in your neck, are your symptoms related to what is going on in there, what is the treatment plan for you. How can they get your pain under control.

Good luck tomorrow.

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Old 03-12-2010, 09:05 AM   #17
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Just returned from neurologist. She examined me & then took a look @ my MRI & consulted w/ the nerosurgeon & they want to see me. Therefore they advised me not to see the pt @ this time & to wait for an appt w/neurosurgeon. I asked if I wod be harming myself further if I tried to move more, she said no, but would not recommend it @ this time. She also stated I had no compression but it was touching the spinal cord. I then asked if that is what is causing the tingling. She said no- she believes it is the nerves in my muscles throughout my back from the trauma that is causing this. She also stated that the surgeon may not recommend surgery but may have some sort of relief mechanisms for me. That is about it. Oh & she put me on baclofen for my muscles. Thanks so much for you response I actually read it this morning in the waiting room. Keep you posted they marked me as urgent for the nerosurgeon & also placed me on the cancellation list.

 
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I have a definite sense of ahhhh, as I read your last post MJml - it is so good that you posted on this thread to seek advice and reassurances of sorts as to the best pathway for yourself. Welldone!
Your issues are still unresolved and quite frankly, with whiplash and the cervical injuiries that verify it, you will have to just take this one day at a time. There is no quick fix, no matter what you may of heard from some others for these things. I am hoping that your youth (I assume you are not old like me - 55) will work in your favor. There is something to be said for younger bodies. I had one once and remember it well.
The neuro sounds like someone who knows their stuff - Keep us posted.
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:55 PM   #19
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I had a sense of ahhhhh as well. But, I'm having major pain in my back. It's my upper back. Like , if you reach your hand behind your shoulder and touch as far down as you can ... That is the area of the pain I think it's right by the bulge ? Could it be getting worse or is the pain from healing ...? It really hurts & burns . I have been taking Tylenol 3 & now I'm taking 2 .. Every 8 hrs ... Seems a little scary . Also I heard in some other threads about people having a hard time coming off of the baclofin -- maybe I should just stick w/ the flexiral? I have been on the baclofin for about 2 days. Also... How do I sleep ? What is the best way for me w/ the protrusion being at c4- c5 & c5-c6 ?

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MJml, your muscles are what some call 'guarding' , they are guarding the injuries. This causes a new pain. Your body is trying to compensate for the insult of the injury you have sustained. Myofascial (sp) release therapy is something that my ortho spine doc recommended for me, a ways into treatment, it was the most amazingly theraupeutic therapy I have ever had. The therapist works with the fascia, which holds the body together basically. The therapy settled me and dealt with the overall bodily injury of being slammed into a car door - which caused all sorts of stuff to go on, emotionally and physically. It is one of many treatments that could possibly help you as you recover. Very interesting and wonderful. Your pain needs to be managed at this point. If the pain becomes unbearable, call your nuero doc , they have answering services 24/7 for this very purpose. Where you are hurting is normal for your injury. Pain is pain, I am sorry to say, and the added frustration for having your life interrupted without your permission is also something that lays at the back of your mind as well. Please be careful and mindful about neutral positions for bending, looking down and so on. < edited > Hope this is helpful.
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Re: Please help me read parts of my MRI & direct me on what I need to do

hi mj, sorry i was not able to get to this earlier, but it would appear from everything i have read that you have gotten some really wonderful advice thus far. what i am wondering about here is the symptoms going on with your leg and feet? is this still going on, and is this BOTH feet involved? i get the impression that they never actually checked out anything beyond the c spine pretty much post MVA?

did the neuro mention ANYTHING at all about the symptoms in the lower? there could just possibly be another issue further down in that spine either FROM the overall trauma of the enourmous amount of different forces that just come into play with many MVAs. but that does also depend upon and take in ALOT of other factors too. you just could(espescially depending upon your age here?) have either had some type of a bulge or issue further down that was simply non symptomatic pre MVA that the overall impact of it could have just casued it to 'present itself, or something new could have occured down there too?

its just depending upon exactly how much true 'effect/impact is actually ON your cord or even the possibility of what is called a 'rebound' type of injury where upon impact, in that particular area of cord compromise, the bulge would actually kind of be forced into the cord area then sort of just rebound back into place again(this occurs alot to peoples actual chest areas with the ribs to the steering wheel,or blunt force trauma to the chest,espescially in children?)? this just "can" occur and would in most cases, imflame the cord to a certain degree(with this type of injury possible,this is also when YOUR symptoms really show much more (of the bigger picture impact wise)and are more important than anything else too). in many cases, that type of real trauma would NOT show up immediately but after certain reactions such as the swelling became invloved like hours or even the day after later? sometimes that inflammation and the swelling would not even be caught but you could easily have some types of real symptoms from it anyways?

i just really am seriously wondering how your feet can just be involved with the symptoms you have from 'only' c spine injury, but definitely with some level of cord compromise here, thats all. i am glad they are sending you to see the neurosurgeon. when it comes to neurologists and actual neurosurgeons, espescially if this involves the spinal areas, a good neurosurgeon wins hands down in my book anyways. i have seen both types of specialists and quite honestly, if you have more than headpain that you are trying to Dx or certain brain/mobility issue going on, they seriously are NOT the best types of specialists for YOUR level of spinal. if you merely look at the fact that NSs just go into peoples spinal areas like some on a daily basis vs a doc who 'only' goes by "tests' and what they know about, the people with that much more in depth real inner working knowledge of what they 'see' everyday, well it would be a really good NS that would juat naturally have that much clearer more educated and experienced amount of spinal knowledge,ya know what i mean? they also know much better, the inner structures of any spinal areas upon MRI and just the smaller things they actually look for per MRI films(the better NSs wont even bother looking at any mere radiologists report at all or give it just a glance at best). they just see this stuff and know the 'key' areas to look for certain findings at all there?

and as NP mentioned in a post to you, what ANY actual radiiologist even finds or does not find is always highly individual and based much more upon 'their' overall knowledge and experience in even doing interpretations of any given body area. there are just ALOT of different factors that go into what any rad report actually states, even down to what any given rad would see as "severe' or 'mild' types of findings? you are getting 'their impressions' of your hardfilms here and nothing more. also, as with any other type of real 'scan, it may or may not even pick up certain real hard findings? using a contrasting agent of some kind just really does help in seeing those more hidden areras that just do not always even show real well on any type of a scan.

what this NS is going to be doing is having you list your overall symptoms(i am hoping you have kind of been keeping track as one poster mentioned) and any new ones that may have popped in after certain reactions within our bodies and that spinal cord all set in and take place after any type of real trauma. he/she will also do a very in depth and hands on type of testing on you which is a deeper type of full neuro exam? they will be definitely checking your leg reflexes given that feet and leg finding to see how well they react, along with your feet/ankles looking for signs of possible myelopathy or clonus which would defintiely indicate that the leg stuff is more than likely stemming from the c spine/cord level area more than not. but that cord 'would' if these signs are positive, defintiely be playing a much bigger part with more compression there. they can tell alot by that in depth neuro exam thay do since when certain areas like the actual cord truely are being impacted in certain ways, our bodies WILL show it in alot of different neurological ways too. and he will be looking very closely at the hardfilms you will be asked to bring with you too to do what is kind of the "second read' of your films themselves(much much more highly experienced and educuated "impressions)? once that is all done he will sit down with you to explain all the findings.

the one big thing they NEED to identify here is what IS creating the lower torso type of symptoms you have been displaying. the NS should be abl;e to actually either rule in or out the actual cord being the generator the day of your neuro exam like i said,mostly based upon YOUR r4eactions to that hands on testing? but if this is not somehow determinable that time,he may want to run another MRI on you to check that whole spinal from C on down just to see where any other possible issues could be that would just be impacting the feet. do you know if that initial MRI was done with a contrasting agent or not? that too like i mentioned above can really make a difference in what is even found or how well things are seen on the hardfilms. if the MRI was not done with contrast, he may want another done with it, or to simply see that whole spinal and also recheck out the way the c spine issues, espescially that cord area finding just "are' at this point now that some time has passed.

by the by here? that pain you are having in your back? the way you described it, it really does sound like it is actually even lower down the spinal level than where your findings would be? another good reason to get a full spinal MRI done? but if this is ONLY being generated by muscle guarding it could be explained that way too.

hopefully some of the symptoms will subside for you once the whole initial trauma kind of runs its natural course? that CAN take some time too just for the body as a whole to simply 'get over' the shock and trauma of what it has been thru and what damage has been done that its compensating for right now too. but you should at least have a much better clearer understanding of certain things before you even leave that first NS appt. when is that set for? i do hope certain things will have reduced for you by the time that appt rolls around. just not 'as' significant as they were initially? but i seriously would directly ask the NS about why he thinks you are even having any real symptoms in that lower body area when your injury appears to be c spine related. it just may or may not be cord related. and that you REALLY do need to find out.

rose, i too have been getting myo therepy now for over two years since my generators are are still there and do not go away? mine also does another combined therepy called craniosacral therepy? the two therpys combined have seriously helped me sooo freaking much with what is very direct muscle damage in my upper back/neck/shoulders and major fascia issue i have within the abdominal from a form of kidney disease that creates huge globs of cysts that keep making my liver and kidneys enlarge wayy too big for my body at this point? he releases that (as much as possible anyways,lol) too thinned out and overly tightened fascia that stems from that crap too. my diaphram keeps needing constant releasing too since my R kidney is sitting in the front of my body now and keeps shoving into it and causing that to overly tighten too? that hugely impacts my ability to even breathe until he releases that dang diaphram for me. wonderful to just breathe again,ya know? but i was referred there by my pain clinic for my muscle crap and had no idea how much true real help it would also be for my PKD. that was just a huge bonus.

ml,this therepy would be something to look into once you have found out exactly whats going on and what you need to do here. as rose mentioned, all those muscles up there and on down at least to the under shoulderblade areas are wayy overly tightened right now and they are indeed guarding the injured areas too right now. its kind of a 'compensatory" type of the bodys response that is a good/bad thing only in that it does help 'support/protect", it wont usually go away by itself without some help once that area gets better? just something really really helpful to try down the road here or when its been okayed by your NS to try? this is the ONLY therepy out of wayy too many that has even began to help with my really severe muscle damage.

please do let us know what the NS says and when that appt actually is. and good luck hon,marcia
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Old 03-15-2010, 07:21 PM   #22
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You are lucky feelbad was feeling good this week and able to contribute so much! She has helped me over the years so much. I find of felt maybe on the feet it might have to do with the accident itself and was kind of waiting to watch your posts progress to see how you do. Definitely if those feet symptoms continue you need to bring that up with the doctors. It is possible for a bad cervical injury to cause body wide symptoms,because some of those tracts run the whole spine length as they combine. It could even be from ligament swelling in the spine from the injury and just needs time. It could even be from tension on the spinal cord during a collision type injury. It seemed your upper body symptoms were the worst and troubling. That shoulder blade area is most litely C5 acting up and the best sleep positions I found is to try to stay side sleeping. Well supported neck and pillow supporting your arm that faces the ceiling, and pillow between your knees. This seems to work for me and keep that area from being irritated. My discs are gone there, but I have spur ridges around my fusion that can rub my spinal cord when I sleep wrong and my body likes to tell me about if I dare try to back sleep. I personally have never taken baclofen so I don't know any advice in that arena. If your upper back continues there is a lidocaine patch that works for some people in that area. THe nerves run close to surface around there so sometimes it can calm it down a little. The doctors don't mind prescribing them to try since they are not narcotic - can be a little pricey even w/ins. Ask for a sample.

I hope you are a little better this week, please check in and let us know how you are doing. NP (CiCi)

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Old 05-03-2010, 06:47 PM   #23
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hello to everyone...Goodness I thought I felt okay to post an update but it hurts for me to look down. I will try again tomorrow I wanted to give everyone that has helped me thru this accident an update. Hope everyone is well

 
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Pno ( cici ) marcia, rose & everyone that has helped me thus far. Today is not a good day need some help. My accident was the end of feb. Have been taking the conservative approach with pt & ot ( estim, ultrasound,traction & massage) yet after the last traction - only my 3rd time w/ this @ only 3-5 lbs I developed a sting in my back on the right side - the pt had mentioned that the area I was pointing to was my vertebre - now the tingling has come back more severe in my right forearm and fingers mainly index & thumb & also radiates do my right foot. What could be causing this ? It really hurts in the disc area I can't even touch it w/ out it hurting . I have an appt w/ my pain clinic next week & the pt requested another MRI - she was surprised I did not recva follow- up MRI earlier . It's been 12 weeks since the 1 st MRI which was taken the day ofthe accident - could pt have hurt me ? Could I have a tear? Could disc be together ? I hope someone is on today - I'm actually lying down & typing on my phone - thank goodness for these little devices & mainly eveyone on the board - my 1 st MRI is posted on this thread u know it's been a while since I have been on

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the one big thing they NEED to identify here is what IS creating the lower torso type of symptoms you have been displaying. the NS should be abl;e to actually either rule in or out the actual cord being the generator the day of your neuro exam like i said,mostly based upon YOUR r4eactions to that hands on testing? but if this is not somehow determinabledone with a contrasting agent or not? that too like i mentioned above can really make a difference in what is even found or how well things are seen on the hardfilms. if the MRI was not done with contrast, he may want another done with it, or to simply see that whole spinal and also recheck out the way the c spine issues, espescially that cord area finding just "are' at this point now that some time has passed.

by the by here? that pain you are having in your back? the way you described it, it really does sound like it is actually even lower down the spinal level than where your findings would be? another good reason to get a full spinal MRI done? but if this is ONLY being generated by muscle guarding it could be explained that way too.

hopefully some of the symptoms will subside for you once the whole initial trauma kind of runs its natural course? that CAN take some time too just for the body as a whole to simply 'get over' the shock and trauma of what it has been thru and what damage has been done that its compensating for right now too. but you should at least have a much better clearer understanding of certain things before you even leave that first NS appt. when is that set for? i do hope certain things will have reduced for you by the time that appt rolls around. just not 'as' significant as they were initially? but i seriously would directly ask the NS about why he thinks you are even having any real symptoms in that lower body area when your injury appears to be c spine related. it just may or may not be cord related. and that you REALLY do need to find out.

rose, i too have been getting myo therepy now for over two years since my generators are are still there and do not go away? mine also does another combined therepy called craniosacral therepy? the two therpys combined have seriously helped me sooo freaking much with what is very direct muscle damage in my upper back/neck/shoulders and major fascia issue i have within the abdominal from a form of kidney disease that creates huge globs of cysts that keep making my liver and kidneys enlarge wayy too big for my body at this point? he releases that (as much as possible anyways,lol) too thinned out and overly tightened fascia that stems from that crap too. my diaphram keeps needing constant releasing too since my R kidney is sitting in the front of my body now and keeps shoving into it and causing that to overly tighten too? that hugely impacts my ability to even breathe until he releases that dang diaphram for me. wonderful to just breathe again,ya know? but i was referred there by my pain clinic for my muscle crap and had no idea how much true real help it would also be for my PKD. that was just a huge bonus.

ml,this therepy would be something to look into once you have found out exactly whats going on and what you need to do here. as rose mentioned, all those muscles up there and on down at least to the under shoulderblade areas are wayy overly tightened right now and they are indeed guarding the injured areas too right now. its kind of a 'compensatory" type of the bodys response that is a good/bad thing only in that it does help 'support/protect", it wont usually go away by itself without some help once that area gets better? just something really really helpful to try down the road here or when its been okayed by your NS to try? this is the ONLY therepy out of wayy too many that has even began to help with my really severe muscle damage.

please do let us know what the NS says and when that appt actually is. and good luck hon,marcia[/QUOTE]

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Old 05-22-2010, 11:00 AM   #26
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Hi it's me I posted but not sure it came up on anyone's thread if your feeling well today it would be wonderful to hear from someone. I Also wanted to point out that I have an emg pending - I had to cancel my last appt due to pain- so hopefully this will tell me something as well

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Also have developed tingling in my left hand when I sit a certain way - should I rest on my back or my side ?

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Hello MJml: Glad you posted, even though you are feeling pretty low today from the sound of it. Often injuries sustained in an auto accident manifest themselves in the months following the collision. Even up to 5 years. I don't want to overwhelm you with that - more to reassure you that if you are having new to you symptoms, they are still related to the spinal insult/injury - would be my guess. If it were me, and I've done this, I have had additional MRI's 6 months to a year following the accident I was in. Every thing I had been feeling with the paresthesis (numbness in certain areas - and tingling) was verified by the MRI. I believe that some additional stress to the already injured areas was spurred along by Physical Therapy. I do not think personally that PT is the best thing for spinal injuries, but the doctors are following a protocol, monitored by the insurance companies, who insist that certain types of treatments be tried before proceeding to the next steps. Your doctors will move at the pace they believe to be best for you - but you need to tell them what is going on - all of it. The machines really did nothing for me but further irritate my condition. I had the very best results from hands on therapy with the theraupeutic massage. That sweet woman - was thin as a reed and strong as an ox. She helped settle me - so that healing wasn't so hindered. When I went in to see the Ortho Spine doc, he asked how I was doing and I just broke down in tears. It completely unnerved me and embarressed me, to be so vulnerable, but he was on top of it, and saw that I was injured at a deeply emotional state, which makes resting almost impossible, the fascia was almost like a tight rubber band, which helped by the theraupeutic massage therapist. I still have issues - with paresthesis in my arms , especially the forearms at times and every once in a while, an all out whole arm numbness, as well as pins and needles - that really is something intense,to wait out - but it resolves.
I think Feelbad will be around soon - I hope she feels well enough today to contribute. Her comments about resting positions are very good ones.
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Thanks rose - I hope feelbad will respond soon as well - I did see a recent thread 2 above mine from kentuckywoman & 3 surgeries replied - great advice - it got me thinking maybe I need this discogram as well - maybe I have a tear - ? I can't really understand why my foot tingling on the right side along w / the finger tingling would come back - it seems it was getting better. Unless I took a turn for the worst as you stated from some pt - I'm not sure exactly what e- stim is- but the pt stated it would relax things & not harm anything - rose - what do u think about an emg - I have pu it off since behind my neck area is so painful - will this test cause more of an injury? Ow will it only help ??

 
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hi hon. have not been even able to get down here for awhile, sorry. and sorry things have not gotten better for you yet.

one HUGE thing? stop that traction until you have had a brand new contrasted and FULL SPINAL MRI. traction for you and not still knowing why the feet are even having symptoms at all yet and what it appears to be doing TO you with worsening of your symptoms simply CAN make a bad situation worse. it is not always easy to tell exactly where or how or what is actually being 'moved' within that spinal column when traction is used. if you had already totally dxed and 'stable" injuries it would be a bit different, but for now, i would NOT try that again hon, seriously. and i would make certain that your doc IS aware of ther worsening of symptoms because of it too.

have you actually even seen a good neurosurgeon yet? if so, what were his impressions? either way tho hon, you most definitely do NEED a full spinal MRI just given what even started this whole nightmare at the very beginning, the MVA?? they have never actually even 'cleared' anything beyond that c spine yet so you really do not know at all if the feet symptoms are from a lower level spinal injury or still something within that c spine area that may not have showen itself upon any MRI, esp if it was done very soon post MVA? the foot symptoms if they started post MVA would only realistically be stemming from two real possible places if this is indeed spinal related? that would be within that c spine level impact of some type(to the cord), or an injury beyond that c spine down lower in the back somewhere. that is why seeing that whole spinal is really crucial right now and the repeat of that c level too. just make certain that MRI is full and with contrast too. it will better highlight certain findings that can remain hidden at times on any MRI when it is not actually used? just gives overall better more clarified pictures.

for right now until you can simply obtain that full spinal MRI hon, do ONLY the lower impact therepies. no traction. that traction just really scares me actually. its almost as bad as having blind chiro adjutments when major problems are present at the c spine. too scarey for me. the mere fact that your symptoms worsened along with actual pain also being present from it is a good reason for you to tell them NO if they tell you to have it.

just wondering what exact area of your spine had the pain when that occured that you pointed to and she said it was your vert? was that area actually in that c spine or actually below it somewhere further down? and knowing if you have seen a NS yet and what he had to say when HE read your films is kind of important too. i did not see any posts about any appt? make certain that you are writing down ANY new symptoms and have already gottten what was there at the beginning and up til now down too. it WILL help the doc and you just see any real progression of condition worsening much easier.

as far as trying to find a good posistion goes? go with what is the most comfortable for you. i always keep hand towels by my bed so i can tuck one into an area that may need a bit more support, esp my freaking c spine? they work nice that way. i always have to sleep only on my back so there is sometimes a space under my neck that does not feel well supported, that towel tucks right nicely right into that smaller area for me. just a tried and true suggestion for you. if you could answer the questions i asked hon, it would really help me to try and help you in the very best way. marcia
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3-22-01,herniated C-6-7
11-20-01,placement of hardware for failed fusion
9-22-03,removal of cavernous hemangioma that was inside spinal cord. Neuro damage to L hand L leg and R leg.

 
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