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Old 03-25-2010, 03:22 AM   #1
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Question Paralyzed cord post ACDF

ACDF February 3rd and ended up with paralyzed vocal cord. Anyone else? Recovered? How long before recovery? I'd like to hear from others experiencing this problem. Advanced thanks!

 
Old 03-28-2010, 10:04 AM   #2
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Re: Paralyzed cord post ACDF

just what has your surgeon said about this? just what was the severity of the spinal issues that required that surgery? if you happen to actually have a copy of your own MRI report that was done pre op, and could simply type out the actual summary word for word as the interpretting rad saw it, that would help alot.

there just could be a few different reasons as to why your vocal chords became this way, some would have to do with real actual spinal damage and the others could just have occured during the intubation or even extubation process too? one big thing i would do here if you have not yet done so is to actually obtain EVERY single scrap of paper(all and any actual medical records contained in whats called your 'central medical file") generated from this surgery from the hospital where this was done? you very MUCH need to read and see ANY notes made by the anesthesiologist(make certain to specifically ask for any of 'those' records) who would have been the one to actually do that intubation on you? if ANYTHING went wrong there with THAT process, even if he "chose' the wrong sized tube, it could have impacted the vocal chords. or he could have hit them and possibly only 'stunned" them too kind of thing? during that intubation process, anyone who is intubating looks for and HAS to actually visualize the chords so they can simply slide that tube in between them, and down the throat? so possibly 'hitting/injuring or stunning' them is a real possibility here too that you need to check out. this could just be some type of prolonged 'pressure' on the chords type injury too? its really hard to say. but i would also see just how much real overall experience your anesthesiologist actually had here too? only becasue like any other skill we have to learn, intubating a patient properly just IS a learned skill that with repetition and expeience gets better along the way?

while feeling somewhat "hourse" post op would be expected, what you actually have going on there really sounds like some level of actual damage going on somewhere. the key here is kind of tracking it back to that real "cause". and the more 'likely' would just be the intubation process at the very beginning. this really IS the only time where there just is any real direct contact with those vocal chords at all. with the extubation also an issue too depending.

when you obtain all those records, also make certain you ask for the 'op notes' that get made by the NS? its kind of a transcript of the surgery itself? some info has to be in those notes, but in more in depth stuff does not for some reason always have to be there. do you know whether or not you actually had whats called intra operative monitoring done during this surgery? if this required any real close direct contact with your spinal cord(if you had ANY real cord compression going on pre op) your surgeon probably would have ordered this? they would have placed little electrode pads like down on the legs too not just the on your chest heart monitoring? if you did have this, make certain to ask for those op notes too since anything that may have been 'hit' within that cordspace would have shown itself on the monitor and would also be in the monitoring docs op notes.
it would not hurt here either to also obtain ANY follow up visit clinic notes from your NS too. they have to make notes after every visit with any patient, all docs? but there may possibly be something in HIS follow ups with you that he would have to have written down about a post op symptoms such as yours, and also give his 'impressions' about too? just another possible source of real info to obtain. like i mentioned above, there realistically can only be two real sources for this to have actually occured. the intubation process, or that tube itself causeing compression damage just lying too long if that tube also was simply too big for YOUR size in there even, or some level of actual nerve damage that just happens to correlate with the chords. but the intubation sounds much much more likely to me just given what that whole process entails?

can you actually speak at all at this point or nothing at all? has this gotten ANY better at all over time or has this pretty much stayed the way it was immediately post op? knowing what your NS has said about this would really be interesting to know. seeing an ENT specialist could possibly really help you in at least figuring out where and how this real damage occured. you just will probably not get a real honest opinion from anyone actually connected to that surgery so seeing someone in a more 'neutral" territory would be the very best thing in finding the answers and possible treatment options too? sorry you are having to deal with this at all. i hope you at least have 'some' level of voice left? marcia
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Old 03-29-2010, 10:07 AM   #3
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Re: Paralyzed cord post ACDF

I had an acdf on feb 10, 2010.. its been almost 2 months, my voice gets raspy at times, mostly at the end of the day, but goes away if i drink something or eat italian ice.. what bugs me the most is that i still feel like there is something there whenever i swallow, and i believe what i am feeling is the spacer which is behind my esophagus. I am wondering if this feeling goes away. I still have much pain radiating into my left arm and hand. estella

 
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Hello,

I had neck surgury in Sept of 09, so it has been over 6 months and still only have half a voice!! I had a ENT Specialist look at it and I too have 1/2 of my vocal coard is paralized. I cannot talk very loud and it is very hard to understand me and I could not screem in an emergency or Cheer for my Grandkids!! This really Sucks! My ENT suggested a proceedure where they inject somekind of lubricant into them. I have not had this done yet as I had to wait the 6 months first. Now I can proceed and see if this will work!

I don't know if this is a malpractice issue but if this proceedure doesn't work I may have to look into it.

I'll keep you posted!
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Old 04-05-2010, 11:02 AM   #5
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Thanks estella3. Thanks Kingzako

My voice has recovered quite well within the last week, now 9 weeks post surgery. Up until a week ago it was very difficult to speak and be understood. I would get dizzy and lightheaded, and especially had trouble swallowing liquids -- sometimes food. My voice sounds more normal. My son says it sounds as if I'm going through a 2nd puberty when my voice cracks. Very funny, but true. Best wishes that you both do well with your recovery.

 
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Re: Thanks estella3. Thanks Kingzako

unfortunetly this just IS a possible 'consequecne OF basic intubation and not so much out right negligence type of thing. its the nature of what has to be done in order to even intubate. there was a form you signed from the anestheiologist that told you about possible problems that can arise from just this one thing. people can also end up with broken teeth from the scope too,among other possibles. it was all in one of the forms that you had to have signed and read pre op at some point? they have to by law tell you this stuff is "possible" unfortunetly. some people just can end up with injury of some form. hopefully things WILL resolve or can be made better?

anytime we have any surgery that requires general, you have possible consequeces or things that can just happen from the anesthesia and intubation too. thats why i cannot understand the people who keep running to plastic surgeons actually WANTING any surgery that is ONLY for cosmetic crap and not actually needed(with some doing this like over ten times or something too???)? scarey bunch there. everytime i have had any of my six surgeries and i came out okay, i feel like i have just "dodged another bullet",ya know? sooo many possible risks there. marcia
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Old 04-06-2010, 12:00 PM   #7
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Re: Paralyzed cord post ACDF

I had same thing 3 yr ago . Yes I am good now but it was a long journey. I posted all of my treatment plans, surgeries and speech therapy lists that worked.

Go to search box type vocal cord and click any post with my name Julyg. Good luck and you can do it!

 
Old 04-15-2010, 09:17 AM   #8
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Re: Paralyzed cord post ACDF

Have any of you heard of this proceedure called "Radiesse Injection" This is supposed to help move vocal cords closer together so it will improve your talking and volume of voice.

I do have this scheduled but would like to know a little more about it!
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