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Old 04-24-2012, 08:42 PM   #16
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

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Ive never found a pillow that's comfortable for my neck. Just had blood tests done a couple weeks ago and m?y liver is great and kidney function is good too. Ive never taken pain meds consistantly though. Been on tramadol since Dec of last year. My neck pain is different day to day. Hugs to all.
I stopped sleeping in a bed before I had surgery. Just laying in it made my neck hurt more even though I have a memory foam pillow. You'll find a lot of back and neck patients sleep in recliners. That's what I did. Three months after the surgery I was finally able to sleep in my bed again.

DO NOT use a big pillow. The best kind of pillow is a memory foam one. I don't use the wedge kind-you can find memory foam pillows that are shaped like regular ones. They are flatter and not bulky like regular pillows and believe me they do work and are very comfortable.

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

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I've had fatty liver for over 10 years long before spine issues. It is not due to alcohol (never drank when younger nor do i now), nor is it due to meds. Also not fat. They think hereditary and/or autoimmune. The pain I'm experiencing could never be taken care of with one tylenol 3 though. Not a chance. Not with degenerative disc disease and herniated discs and all associated pain. I also hve rheumtoid arhritis hands fingers knees feet and fibromyalgia.

Luckily my dr is understanding about the pain I'm experiencing. I am grateful for this at least.
I feel bad for you regarding the fibromyalgia. A lot of people in the medical field think that is a crock and on a lot of the medical blogs I've read they consider people with the disease to be "drug seekers". Just another example of the "I'm God and know when someone is REALLY in pain" complex that is so common in the medical field. I'm glad you have an understanding doctor

If you haven't guess it I have a lot of contempt for the medical profession. In your life you might find a few that have the gift of compassion but over the past couple of years I've discovered that's not the norm.

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

I'm seeing a new doctor on May 15th, we will be having a talk about my pain level. I'm over being treated like crap by doctors. I'm 52 yrs old, never drank or did drugs. I'm not a pills seeker, I'm in pain. I'm taking all my mri reports and bone scan and laying it all out on the table, she will see it my way or my search for a new dr will continue.

 
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I'm seeing a new doctor on May 15th, we will be having a talk about my pain level. I'm over being treated like crap by doctors. I'm 52 yrs old, never drank or did drugs. I'm not a pills seeker, I'm in pain. I'm taking all my mri reports and bone scan and laying it all out on the table, she will see it my way or my search for a new dr will continue.
Good for you! Remember, the medical providers are working for YOU not the other way around. They have no right to play God, you're not paying them to act like that.

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

Some drs are very uncomfortable prescribing pain meds even though they know it is warranted. It would be better if your dr just said this then refer you to an interventional pain specialist or a new dr. Would be much more humane than making patient feel guilty or have to defend their need to be treated properly.

So sorry your having to go through this--as if having spine disorder isn't bad enough all by itself.

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

Marcee:
I apologize. I feel like I hijacked your post with my problems.

I understand the whole pain med concept and about addiction. My old dr sent me to a neuro, then she sent me to different neuro, now he is sending me to an orthopedic surgeon. All of them feel my condition is too severe for them, so they keep sending me to someone else, yet nobody is treating me...lol. Makes me CRAZY! I just hurt so darn bad and need some relief.

Ok, I'm done talking about myself. Again, I apologize for hijacking your post (I've been scolded for that on another board). It was just nice to talk to people who actually understood me.

I do hope you get some results and get everything figured out. Dr's make me want to pull my hair out. ~hugs, Kenzi!

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

For many years I was treated like a drug seeker due to having fibromyalgia. Luckily my PCP understands it and recent doctors Ive seen knows fibro is real and they sympathize with me. Hugs to you!!!

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

Thank you for this pillow info. I'm so upset about all this thats happening right now. The pain is absolutely unbearable at tmes even with meds. So not being able to find comfortable way to sleep is not helping my mood any. I keep thinking if i can just sleep longer than 2 to 3 hr intervals will greatly help me but just not happening. Can't remember when I last got a full 8 hr sleep in one night. Have a feeling never gonna happen again. Oh well. I guess just feeling a bit sorry for myself right about now. I know after reading all the other posts, many many others have a lot worse off than me so shame on me.

Anyway, i will get the memory foam pillow and let you know how it works. Will keep my fingers crossed that it will do the trick. Thank you.

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

Yes, Let us know if the pillow helps and what kind it is, then i can get one. Have a great night and TRY and rest! Goodnight.

 
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Kenzie... please no need to apologize. Not at all. I just think if these drs had to go through what their patients are then they may learn to be more empathetic. You have enough on your plate to contend with as it is, so dont worry about posts. These posts really help me b/c it is good to discuss with others who are kind understanding and can relate. Makes it so i don't feel quite so alone in this. You take care and hugs to you too!

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

Please read this post twice.

Well, I guess doctors are immune to any disease. They are just lucky.
Strange enough, they have never been in car accidents (perhaps they have been but have never been injured to suffer from chronic pain), They have no disease. How interesting. Even in the pain clinic none of they ever felt pain.
How don't understand how come they are so lucky? perhaps they drive the best cars so they are protected from whiplash etc. I think if we do a research on that we will find that it is true. Most (if not all) of them are well! and not suffering from chronic pain at least.

I can tell you marcee, at least you were not in a car accident and hurt your neck, I believe it could be worse. Then it would be your tendons, ligaments and muscles involved. I now understand it's called myofascial pain which my doctor never mentioned for 6 years. Not enough, to make me more sad....my doctor has never met any patient of his who is not able to rest his/her neck on the pillow and said that must be psychological.
I tried to convince him that I don't imagine it and really, when I rest my neck on the pillow I am in pain and cannot sleep. Believe me Marcee, I have been to many doctor and none of them has ever heard that before. That is what I was told, you are the only one, a rare case. Well, I see here in this forum that I am not the only one.

Anyway, Marcee, we should all aim for 8 hours sleep. When was the last time you were able to sleep 8 hours? (not trying to be rude...just asking). and how many hours are you able to sleep now? What meds are you taking before going to sleep?

Last but not least, don't go to any chiropractors for your neck!.

 
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Well, I guess doctors are immune to any disease. They are just lucky.
Strange enough, they have never been in car accidents (perhaps they have been but have never been injured to suffer from chronic pain), They have no disease. How interesting. Even in the pain clinic none of they ever felt pain.
How don't understand how come they are so lucky? perhaps they drive the best cars so they are protected from whiplash etc. I think if we do a research on that we will find that it is true. Most (if not all) of them are well! and not suffering from chronic pain at least.


Last but not least, don't go to any chiropractors for your neck!.
I read that a lot of surgeons do have back and neck problems because they're bending over so much from performing surgery. Neuros and Orthos do complex surgeries that can last for hours. They're not the ones that treated me like a drug seeker. It was the idiot nurses and doctors in the ER. The pain specialist I saw gave me a prescription for MS Contin and when I told my neurosurgeon how much pain I was in he said he understood that I must be in a lot of pain.

As for chiropractors, I second that statement. Don't EVER let them touch you for neck pain. Manipulation of the cervical spine is the worse thing anyone can do to a person with herniated disks and spinal stenosis. It can also rip your neck arteries in half.

 
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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

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Thank you for this pillow info. I'm so upset about all this thats happening right now. The pain is absolutely unbearable at tmes even with meds. So not being able to find comfortable way to sleep is not helping my mood any. I keep thinking if i can just sleep longer than 2 to 3 hr intervals will greatly help me but just not happening. Can't remember when I last got a full 8 hr sleep in one night. Have a feeling never gonna happen again. Oh well. I guess just feeling a bit sorry for myself right about now. I know after reading all the other posts, many many others have a lot worse off than me so shame on me.

Anyway, i will get the memory foam pillow and let you know how it works. Will keep my fingers crossed that it will do the trick. Thank you.
Try a recliner if the pillow doesn't work. That's the only way I could get any sleep. I also take medication to help me sleep. You might try looking into that.

Pain is subjective-your pain is very real to you and even though you think others have it a lot worse we have all experienced the type of pain you are feeling. I don't think you are feeling sorry for yourself at all. Before I made it to the "other side" I felt pretty much like you did.

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Re: Concerned due to Not a good candidate for surgery

Meds never really take all pain away. Right now they are trying to find right combination. Sleep meds my dr doesnt like to prescribe though. Im doing some research to see what i can do naturally. I think i am just so stressed. Still waiting to see if i get approved for ssdiisability but as soon as i do will get a recliner. I can see how this might work. I am thinking many are disabled with spinal problems. I think i need to prepare myself for appeals and months before decision is made.

 
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Meds never really take all pain away. Right now they are trying to find right combination. Sleep meds my dr doesnt like to prescribe though. Im doing some research to see what i can do naturally. I think i am just so stressed. Still waiting to see if i get approved for ssdiisability but as soon as i do will get a recliner. I can see how this might work. I am thinking many are disabled with spinal problems. I think i need to prepare myself for appeals and months before decision is made.
I never had any luck with pain medication when I was in pain. My neurosurgeon's PA said it was because I had a low thresh hold for pain after she examined me before my surgery. Luckily I didn't have a lot of pain afterwards so I didn't need pain meds for long. My knee surgery hurt more.

 
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