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Old 12-17-2012, 03:08 PM   #1
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don't know if i am on the right board

Arthritis for 30 yrs in neck and body.....was told before it was severe in neck (whiplash yrs ago)).....was on celebrex for yrs and doing good....decided I could do it without celebrex and 10 weeks of celebrex it cause a bad flare up in my neck....of couse back on celebrex.....has phyco for severe pain on right side of neck at hairline....all they could do is massage me but it did take the severe pain away but left me with severe pins and needles off and on in my neck and to the top of my head and the only way to get rid of this is wear my collar. I am to go see a neck surgeon before they will put me in traction as they are scared of damaging I think my spinal cord. Accupture helped some. Forgot to say I also had epidermal injection in neck and it never helped.
Here is my cat scan. I am 71.

There is 5mm anterolisthesis of c2 on c3 unchanged. There is multilevel facet oa, with severe facet oa at c2 -c3. Multilevel degenerative disc disease most severly c4-c-5,c6-c7 with maqrked disc space narrowing & marginal osteophytosis. No fracture is seen. moderate neural foramina narrowing of the right c5-c6,& mild neural foramen narrowing of the left c4-c5 and left c6-c7 and right c4-c5. no significent spinal canal stenosis.
Depending on patient's condition. patient may require surgical intervention to stabilize the anterolisthesis of c2 on c3

I have been in pain 10 mts....hope i don't have to have surgery. What do you think? Any ideas to help me would be great. Wish this would settle down.
Thank you so very much Pashie

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Old 12-17-2012, 05:31 PM   #2
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Re: don't know if i am on the right board

He doesn't seem to think the foraminal narrowing is all that bad. Even though there's "severe" bone overgrowth at C2-3, he doesn't say anything about foraminal narrowing at that level.

The 5mm (1/5 inch) of anterolisthesis (C2 displaced forward over C3) seems like a lot, but I have no idea if it really is or not. Even if it is, I don't know what the symptoms would be. Apparently, there is some kind of surgical treatment, or he wouldn't mention it. It may well be left over from your accident... either the cause of or the result of neck muscle spasm.

Really sounds like you need to see a good spinal surgeon. Are you going to do that?

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Re: don't know if i am on the right board

One other thing... that "severe" osteoarthtritis at C2-3 may be a result of the anterolisthesis. That is, the instability of the vertebral column at that level is putting extra stress on the side of the spinal cage (the facet joint), causing it to lay on extra bone. At some point, this extra bone (osteophyte) may get bad enough to impinge on the canal or the foramen, but the radiologist does not say anything about that.

As for surgery, if you need it, you need it, and it should do you some good. I don't know what would be done for anterolisthesis (a C2-C3 fusion?), but I'd like to hear what is recommended to you.

 
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Yes I am witing to see a spinal surgeon. In Nova Scotia it takes forever. Am wondering if a MRI woulg help? Sometimes it feels my neck goes into a spasm. I feel if I could have traction this would help because when I lift my head from my neck it helps me. The pain now seems like muscle pain for me and the severe sharp arthritis pain is gone. I take one muscle relaxer at night. I use my tens machine and Dr Ho for my neck. I want to thank you for talking to me about this as no one understands when I look so good but feel so bad. I will keep you up yo date. Waiting to get into physco again. Thanks Pashie

 
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:28 AM   #5
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Seems like it may be the forward lean to the neck (kyphosis) that causes your head to come forward and down and puts strain on the neck muscles. That's why the collar helps, as it keeps your head up. Might help to wear it all the time, but you'd know best.

If you drive down to Maine, you'll get in to see a surgeon right away. Just fill up your trunk with $100 bills before you come...

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Old 12-18-2012, 08:48 AM   #6
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I am going to try the collar for a couple of days and see if this helps me. Thanks for your help. Yeah f I win the 649 you can meet me at the airport. lol Pashie

 
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:50 PM   #7
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It feels a little better using the collar......don't want to use it all the time as my muscles will get bad or maybe I am wrong about that....Jan 21 I am going to ask doctor if she has heard anything from surgeon.....6 mts now.....

 
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I am still waiting to see a surgeon....since last June.....I have been getting some relief from accupture.....they are going to set my tens machine to a accupture setting....didn't know this could be done....
your answer here is what they think it is webdoser.....
One other thing... that "severe" osteoarthtritis at C2-3 may be a result of the anterolisthesis. That is, the instability of the vertebral column at that level is putting extra stress on the side of the spinal cage (the facet joint), causing it to lay on extra bone. At some point, this extra bone (osteophyte) may get bad enough to impinge on the canal or the foramen, but the radiologist does not say anything about that......

just trying to deal with it every day.....keeping me awake and giving me stress which I think I need something to help me get to sleep at night.....don't know what she will give me....any suggestions?....
I will let you know what is going on.....thanks for being here for me Pashie

 
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I am still waiting to see a surgeon....since last June.....I have been getting some relief from accupture.....they are going to set my tens machine to a accupture setting....didn't know this could be done....
your answer here is what they think it is webdoser.....
One other thing... that "severe" osteoarthtritis at C2-3 may be a result of the anterolisthesis. That is, the instability of the vertebral column at that level is putting extra stress on the side of the spinal cage (the facet joint), causing it to lay on extra bone. At some point, this extra bone (osteophyte) may get bad enough to impinge on the canal or the foramen, but the radiologist does not say anything about that......

just trying to deal with it every day.....keeping me awake and giving me stress which I think I need something to help me get to sleep at night.....don't know what she will give me....any suggestions?....
I will let you know what is going on.....thanks for being here for me Pashie
I am getting tired of the pain, and on Tuesday April 9/13 I am getting in touch with my PT
to tell her without acupuncture once a week that I am in severe pain at times. They only did acupuncture 4 times but it helped a lot. Not allowed no more than that at the hospital.The tens set on acupuncture just doesn't take it away. I cannot afford to see a PT once a week on my own. I need to get to see the specialist surgeon in Halifax. I am now at the point that I realized after trying everything I probably need surgery. My doctor sent a letter to the group of surgeons last June but we did say I only wanted to see what kind of PT would help me and not surgery but I am ready now if that helps me. Going to see if the PT will call my doctor.....she did before. This has taken over my life and I also have other health problems. I am so much pain now and it goes up the back of my head. I will keep you up to date in what happens....hugs Carol from Nova Scotia

 
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Re: don't know if i am on the right board

I am not sure you understand. If you have chronic neck pain caused by a whiplash(car accident) then even if you do a neck surergy, chances are it won't take your pain away. This is because whiplash pain is intractable. Doctors don't seem to see the difference between a "normal" accident and a car accident.

With car accidents all your tendons ligament and muscles get damage.
Unfortunatelly there is no way to fix this damage.
So don't expect the neck surgery will take your pain away. Neck surgery is for people who are on the way to have nerve damage.

I hope you understand and yes I know whiplash destoryed lives of so many people.
I have seen in this forum. So many people.

When did the accident happen?

 
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It happened 40 years ago and my problem is degenerative disc disease and degenerative facet disease with multiple levels of involvement. So much arthritis.
I am learning a lot. Found out on the web there are facet and nerve blocks and other things that may be able to be done. Didn't know this and I will do anything so I don't have to have surgery.The acupuncture took 90%
of the pain away. Maybe this shows a nerve block will help? I have pressure pain in the back of my head and pins and needle up to the top of my head when I turn my head. It is back now as it has to be done weekly to help me and it costs $80.00 a week and I don't have this. Physio won't put me in traction to lift my head because of the cat scan. Thank you for your reply Carol
I am to see a neurosurgeon on May 6th in Halifax Nova Scotia. The reason I am to see neurosurgeon is because the cat scan said so. Look under my Ist post.

 
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make sure they check you for chiari malformation

 
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Old 05-14-2013, 09:32 AM   #13
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I just got back from Halifax from seeing the neurosurgeon Dr Sean Christie. He thinks my neck is not good and should be fused.....operation .....scared of me being paralyzed....think it is a 11/2 and if it goes to 3 not good.....said they have to take the muscle of to get to it.....in hospital a week and 6 weeks of therapy at home..
The pain is on both sides now and if it gets worse to call him. Told me he is more concerned of the spinal cord than pain and can't guarantee with surgery the pain would be gone.The mri showed a lot.
I mentioned flexion/xrays and in 2 mts I go back to see how bad it is. Mention facet and nerve blocks and he thinks they are very dangerous.
He said if I fall and get paralazed they can't fix that but with the surgery it would protect me. Not what I wanted to hear but I just couldn't say I wanted surgery.....that is when he suggested the flexion/xrays. The pain is now on my left side around my ear and on my face a bit. He said to call him if my symptoms get worse. I am 72 years old.Very tired as it was 100 mile drive. I am going to my family doctor if I can get in and get a copy of the mri....Is there anyone here who has had fusion in neck. I will post my mri and flexion/extension xray. Will post mri next month after my appointment and flexion/extension xrays in a couple of months when I go to Halifax to have it. .carol

 
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no one around?

 
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I just had an ACDF & a PCF just last month. So I can't tell you anything except that I am still recovering & hope to get better.
Best of luck & hope to see your MRI results when you get them next month.
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