After reading all the posts on this I had to reply. My son died of sids 14 years ago of SIDS, he was 4 months old. Well let me tell you, he was sleeping on his back, he was a normal birth, was not around a smoker and all of the other causes that people think. He had an autopsy done, I have a copy, everything was fine with him. But yet he died, so when they can give me a reasonable reason of why he died, to me all the others are just theories. I have had 4 kids after him, the youngest being 3 months. I check on her all the time, because let me tell you, finding your little baby dead is the worst thing in the world. Everybody is entitled to their opinions, but think before you type, that you might be hurting someone elses feelings, you feel bad enough when it happens. To all of the sids mommies(and families) out there. My heart goes out to you, and yes it gets easier but it never ever goes away. It helps to talk about it, never forget your little one, I still have my sons baby pictures out, because he will always be a part of my family.
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piesmom--sorry if anything i said hurt your feelings...but if you reread the posts, i never once said smoking, laying them on their tummies, etc are causes of sids...they are just possible risks scientists believe... ...trust me, i know how you feel...my daughter didn't fit many of the the risk factors either...
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that's good to hear...i was hoping i didn't offend you...or anybody else for that matter...i know from experience that sids families are very sensitive to hearing some things...especially things like "you can have more children" or "it had to be something you did" and stuff like that...i believe none of us had anything to do with our children's deaths...my heart goes out to you for your loss... ...wow, fourteen years...gives me hope that life can continue...my daughter died three years ago and it still feels like yesterday...
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April-may you always dance with the angels above
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"To really live, you must nearly die"-author unknown
April-may you always dance with the angels above
villagegal it will get easier, I promise, it is sad that not many people post here. I found it when I was looking for weight loss site. My heart goes out to you, if you need someone to talk to, I am here for you.People do say some very stupid things, It wasn't you that made me mad.
thanks...sometimes it's nice to talk to someone who knows what i am going thru...i'll keep you in mind...
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by piesmom:
it is sad that not many people post here.
I would've liked to post here and talk about my feelings with this subject, of which I have personal experience, but after reading these posts where everyone looks to blast one another theory's, and accuse eachother of misinformation, I do not think this is the place for me. I know this is sensitive topic, but geez...can't everyone agree to disagree sometimes, without having to be right? There are other topics on this board that deal with sensitive topics with death and dying issues, and I've never seen this kind of bickering and accusations. Maybe the moderators of this board could create a new topic entitled "SIDS support" instead of theories. Also, this site made me decide not to post my story, my opinion, or theory.....and I don't think that you all really want to have this affect when other grieving mom's look towards this site. Please, if you diagree, just state it simply and with the knowledge that this other person is probably grieving too, so take it easy on one another, and don't take your anger out on eachother.
Originally posted by villagegal68455: your theory fascinates me.......although i don't agree with it myself, it does interest me...
if you were talking about plymouth and i, we weren't bashing each other...we were exchanging information and giving reasons why we didn't believe the other's theory...just because i don't agree with plymouth's theory doesn't mean i hold it against them...sorry if you were offended by anything anybody said...
proud wife of trainee wentler
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Rachel Leigh
"To really live, you must nearly die"-author unknown
April-may you always dance with the angels above
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"To really live, you must nearly die"-author unknown
April-may you always dance with the angels above
"It took thirty years of broken baby skulls to stop the use of forceps. How many more victims before doctors stop using that horrible vacuum device to pull babies out of the womb?"
--> The use of forceps has not stopped. My daughter was delivered w/the help of forceps and she was not injured in any way from the use of forceps, not even so much as a bruise. I thank God those forceps were around because they saved my life, as well as my daughter's.
I'm very sorry for all your losses. I to had a son die from SIDS in 1994. My son was very healthy I took him to the doctor on Monday for a check up and he got his shots, He had some nasal congestion, Had GE REFLUX (my second son had the ge reflux to)since he was born...I'd feed his 2 oz of fomula, he would throw up 2 oz of fomula, burp rags here were meduim sized hand towel for the bath room. He was born at 8 lb 3.6 oz. At his 2 month check up (Monday) they gave my son his shots even though, he had some nasal congestion,which was wrong his immune system was down some. He seem to get very sick, he was miserable the rest of the day and on Tuesday. Wednesday came he was quiet, he didnt cry, he seemed very pacified, He refused to sleep if he fell asleep he would jerk himself awake with in a minute literaly. Even in the car that day he wouldnt sleep, But he wasn't cranky at all. I thought this was quiet odd. That night at 11:00 pm I was holding my son rocking him. I voiced comcern to my hubby that he wouldnt sleep all day something didnt seem right. My hubby crouched down next to my son, ran his hand over his head and said "its ok mommy will take care of you, go to sleep". It felt very wrong, but I told him "yes mommy will take care of you" with in 2 minute he fell asleep. I when to bed about 15 minute after laying him down. In the morning he was dead.
My opinion and my hubby's is that the vaccinations are what caused his death. Since then we have not allowed our kids to have the shots.
We get alot of greif about not vaccinating. But we dont want to take the chance of lossing another child. We fell like we sentence our son to death by allowing for the shots.
Don't get my wrong, I'm not telling people not to vaccinate. I'm just stating what we believe was the cause of our sons death.
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Hi--i'm sorry about your loss...i used to think it was vaccinations too...mine died two days after hers...but i learned that was studied...i changed my mind about it...it is a good theory though
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Proud Wife of Airman Wentler
"To really live, you must nearly die"-author unknown
April-may you always dance with the angels above
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Proud Wife of Airman Wentler
"To really live, you must nearly die"-author unknown
April-may you always dance with the angels above
I wish more of us could speak with eachother as well. I've never talked about it to anyone..my other post took courage but it wasn't anything super super personal... I feel if I really really talked about it would open a floodgate of horror not experienced since his death 20 yrs. ago. Scary business.
Finally, after waiting many years for my daughter to have a baby, we have been blessed with a beautiful, healthy grandson.
Naturally, we are very concerned about SIDS.
We have read much about this and have come across many theories, none of which seem to have a common denominator. Some babies died on their backs, some on their tummies and some in their mothers arms. Some had suction during delivery and some did not.
Then it came time for our grandson to receive his vaccinations.
Naturally, not wanting to do any harm to this baby, we started researching the safety of vaccines and we came across some very interesting information that could possibly connect SIDS to vaccine reactions.
We have no idea whether or not this is truly a possibility, but it does seem odd that SIDS strikes babies at the same time that they receive their vaccinations.
I'd REALLY be interested in hearing from parents of children who did NOT receive vaccines and died from SIDS. Then I could throw another theory into the wind.
I pray and grieve for all who have lost a child.
I think your worries are COMPLETELY justified. Just remember: You can always have the vaccines later. You can't, however, remove them once they're in and the damage is done.
I am not a mother that has lost a baby to sids, but I am a sister, my brother christopher died of sids, his birthday was december sixth, every time around this year my mom gets so emotional, and I hear her crying because she thinks that maybe she caused this to happen, that night before christopher died, he was acting like a normal baby, smiling giggling.... nothing seemed wrong, my mom woke up in the morning and we checked on him he wasn't breathing. My dad did cpr it was too late... She blames herself but the fact is he wasn't on his stomach he had been on his back. I dotn think I believe in the theory of the stomach or the back, they really dotn' know what causes it and yes there are reasearches done on it i look up
SIDS all the time and I havent' heard one thing about what plymouth is saying, I dont know mayb eim not looking inthe right places but the fact is, I wish my mom would understand she didtn' do anything. I am so sorry for all you ladies that have had this happen. I mean its so hard not understanding how awful something like this could happen. they are healthy happy... and it just ends... i hate that i don't have an answer for my mom or anybody.. I just want to wish you all the luck. U guys are so strong for even coming on here, my mom won't go to a support group.. . I just wish she would. Good luck to you all your inmy prayers-chrystal
i am a parent of a 2 1/2 month old baby girl and my friends mom lost her little girl of sids a lot of years ago and i was just wondering if anyone had ever heard that it happens more to boys and more often in the winter months (i dont know if i believe that or not) it is winter here where i live and i am woried for my baby (i guess all parents are) but what i was really intrested in was the vaccination theory...i am now really scared about vaccinating again at 4 months....what in the world should i do? or not do more importantly.....
my heart goes out to all of you...i cant imagine such a thing ...i am sitting here almost in tears thinking about it...
i am a parent of a 2 1/2 month old baby girl and my friends mom lost her little girl of sids a lot of years ago and i was just wondering if anyone had ever heard that it happens more to boys and more often in the winter months (i dont know if i believe that or not) it is winter here where i live and i am woried for my baby (i guess all parents are) but what i was really intrested in was the vaccination theory...i am now really scared about vaccinating again at 4 months....what in the world should i do? or not do more importantly.....
my heart goes out to all of you...i cant imagine such a thing ...i am sitting here almost in tears thinking about it...
Hi Winnie;
My son Gregory died in my arms in May many years ago but I have no knowledge of scientific data, it took me over 15 years just to get through the emotional wreckage of seeing him take his last breath as I inhaled it trying to do cpr. What I do suggest is checking with your Doctor as I'm seeing so many self diagnosis all over the web by non medical people. Humans have a tendency to want to have a solid answer and are unwilling to settle for an "I don't know" yet that is all most Sids parents get from the medical profession and until they actually DO find an answer I'll settle for that and not grasp at straws. Whatever your decision, I hope it works out for you and God bless.
I am so sorry, I read your story and cried, as I said before I just cant imagine the pain a parent of this tragedy must face, you must be incredible strong. I have decided to vaccinate (I feel the benefit outweigh the risks) but I am still hung up on this, I am constantly checking my daughter at night, I turn up the monitor to hear her...yet I feel it is something that is out of our hands. I just think it is amazing that we can do brain surgery, heart transplants, even put a man on the moon, but no one can figure out why this happens
I am so sorry, I read your story and cried, as I said before I just cant imagine the pain a parent of this tragedy must face, you must be incredible strong. I have decided to vaccinate (I feel the benefit outweigh the risks) but I am still hung up on this, I am constantly checking my daughter at night, I turn up the monitor to hear her...yet I feel it is something that is out of our hands. I just think it is amazing that we can do brain surgery, heart transplants, even put a man on the moon, but no one can figure out why this happens
Hi Winnie;
I have learned that I have choices in life, namely seeing the positives or the negatives in any situation. I have chosen the positives this past eight plus years. That line you wrote about turning up the monitor to hear her, that could be taken as fear, a negative. I stayed up all night one night when my ex babysat a 4 month old baby girl. I listened to her breathe, just to make sure she continued to do so. I lived in fear that night so I understand and can identify with you. Today I listen to other parents kids breathe sometimes and its a beautiful sound. I see and hear the beauty, the life that is occuring at that moment, not the fear of what "might be" or "could happen". Life is just too short to be spending it in the negative, living in fear in the shadows of what "might be". Come out in the sunshine Winnie, there are joys waiting for you out here.
thank you promisez, I have obsessive compulsive disorder, so I am constantly worrying unnecessarily, and I know I can "what if" any situation that comes up. but you are right, I am being negative... I would probably enjoy my daughter more if I was not always worrying and just living in what “is” instead of the what “if”....thank you again
...trust me, i know how you feel...my daughter didn't fit many of the the risk factors either...
