I'm just wondering if any of you have this sort of problem. Do family members or friends think you're exaggerating just because you don't look as bad as you feel? This happens to me and I was wondering am I alone on this one?
Yeah most of my friends think I am a wimp and most of family crazy because I am constantly seeing drs for the thyroid which I still think is undertreated, the adrenal problems, allergies, asthma. It really bites! I know where you are coming from. At least we have one another..fellow thyroid sufferers.
SIGH!!!! I think this kind of stuff is really what rips at us. I've been off work for 5 months and may lose my job because I can't work right now. It's not that I don't want to. I really need the money. But my job rotates shifts every week. From days to afternoons to midnights and back again. I don't even get enough rest sleeping every night now. Some days I can't bear to even do much of anything. I'm sure you all know how that is. It's just nice to know that there are people out there who are willing to listen and give support. I think in the months ahead as my meds get adjusted and I begin to feel better, you all are going to be of great support and comfort to me. I hope that I will be able to return the favor. Thanks guys.
You're not alone...this disease is often mistaken for laziness and I've heard that several times. Then too, people are ignorant to the point that if they don't see anything wrong then they think you're faking it.
No , you are not alone. I have been told that I was lazy and that I just needed to get over it. I went to our company Doctor because I was desperate and he told me there was nothing he could do and I "looked" very healthy. It helps reading this board and realizing that you are not the only one that feels that way.
Hi. Over the past 26 years I have been rock bottom several times. And, at the bottom you are often by yourself! My Hubby is just now really unerstanding and he has seen every up and down. My mother thinks all I have to do is loose a few pounds to be "well". a friend thinks eating more fruit will do it. And so on and so on. As a general rule the drs don't have the foggiest. I read that most drs treat the lab results,not the patient. Until they learn as much as their patients,they can't help all that much.If we could write our RX, we could regulate the dose by how we feel,without lab work. However,there are still ALL those friends w Hypo/Hyper-T. When they offer advise you know they know what they are talking about This BB is as good as an old fashion P.J. party(w/o the PB in your hair). If we don't talk to each other we won't learn as much. What ever you are feeling just know that somewhere someone else fels the same way and we are all looking for the same answers.
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Oh yeah - the fresh fruit-what about drinking water and exercise? When I had my latest Thyroid tests done I saw a Nurse Practitioner, which I really liked, but her suggestions were, eat more fruit, drink water, exercise and cut out caffiene. Which I am sure all this advice is good for you but I don't think it is going to cure the problems. I drink about 60 oz of water a day and actually have cut out alot of cafiene and I do exercise, when I feel good.
The only way I can describe my fatigue is - it's like after you have been sick with a bad cold or a virus and you feel so wiped out, well that's how I feel the majority of the time. When I come home from work if I dare lay down, I will fall asleep and I have fallen asleep in an upright position. It takes me all weekend to recover from the week Usually on Mondays I feel good because I have done nothing for 2 days but lay around. But no one understands so when my co-workers ask if I had a good weekend I just say I sure did.
That eat more fruit advice I find amusing as the more progressive drs such as Dr. Mercola and even my own dr says limit fruit as it is nothing but sugar anyway. I already drink 70 oz water & no caffiene. I saw a naturopath who after I told her that said "well drink 90 oz then".
I've been having difficulty sleeping lately. I decided to try melatonin for first time last night. I went out like a light.
I not only have the physical fatigue but it is also the mental fatigue. I can run an errand after work (sometimes) if I know exactly where it is and exactly what it is that I need to get, but if I have to "think" about it then I can't do it. It is like I'm drained mentally and physically.
The water thing - when the NP told me to drink water and I told her I was drinking about 60 oz a day, she also said to drink between 90oz and 100oz.
It seems a shame that we can go on these boards and talk to total strangers and get more advice and understanding than the Doctors that we pay. I don't know if they feel that they don't have the time, they're trying to see as many people as they can in a day, or unless you're bleeding or an extreme emergency then they think it is nothing. I wonder what they would do if their daughters, wife, sister, or Mother layed around all the time and wasn't able to work, if they would brush them off also.
I am trying to find some answers here because I don't want to go back and fight with the Doctors. (see my post "Test results back..now what?"
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I have heard all the stuff you guys are talking about. I stopped drinking soda. In fact, I don't drink much caffeinated drinks at all. I drink mostly water. Some juice and some milk. I have been inching up in pounds for many years now. When I was a teenager, they used to call me "string bean" because I was so thin. Now I'm 6 feet tall and about 300 lbs. Been gaining 5-10 lbs. a year and just can't seem to lose it no matter what I do or don't do. I have decided that if I loose weight, that's great. If I don't, that's OK too. I can accept that. But it won't stop me from trying. I REFUSE to let this crap get me down! I am not able to work at this point but I'm sure that I will find some doctor somewhere who will believe that this is not all in my mind. I have been reading the messages on the board for just a few days and you all have already gave me great advise and shared your stories with me. Thanks to all of you and may you all know that through your horrific journeys with your thyroid troubles (and all that encompasses), you have helped someone today and each day that you reach out to others.
Have a GREAT DAY!!!
Hi. Isn't it totally unbelievable that Hypo/Hyper-T is no better respected than it is????? Too bad more men don't have it! I would like to see the men I know try to function even one day w H/H-T. PMS would be bad enough,but through in a little H/H-T and lets see what kind of wars would be started!!!! Although to be fair,it seems that even the drs who are women don't seem to understand.In "Thyroid Power" by K.&R. Shames, they call Hypo-T AN UNDECLARED EPIDEMIC. Why is it is difficult to get a dr that knows how to treat the patient,not the lab work?
Eat some fruit, drink more water. Here have an antidepressant, you need to exercise. How's your home life? Maybe you have stress and you don't know it. It's amazing that these doctors don't get physically assaulted. Oh wait, most of us are to tired to make a fist. Don't let anyone, especially those who are supposed to love and support you, bring you down or make you doubt yourself. It's a disease, not an attitude. I didn't get help until I got a little ornory(sp)(mean). Keep trying. LOL IWL
I've been told that it's in the teaching. Med students are taught how to interpret lab results really well. Too bad listening to the patient and being sympathetic isn't taught. Dr.s years ago would take the time to LISTEN to their patients. Now it's "in, say hi, do the test, out and we'll call ya in 10-14 days and let you know". If they were to take the time to not only listen but hear us also, they couldn't fit so many patients in. OH NO! LESS MONEY!!!
As I said in an earlier posting, I'm going to look on the bright side. Some of you told me to get another Dr. Well, my doc has made the choice for me. He sent me a letter telling me that it is no longer cost effective to carry my HMO in his medical center. WHAT A BLESSING!!!! Now I can get rid of him AND HMO!!!!
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Finally ....people that understand. I have been the route with the anti-depressant also. I even starting taking it because I thought maybe I am depressed-I was so desperate I would have tried anything. Finally one day after I took a pill, it ocurred to me, I'm still having all the symptoms I was having before I started taking the anti-depressant so I stopped taking it.
I hope I'm not breaking any rules here - but the magazine "First" is asking for articles from women who have suffered from fatigue and to write in with their success stories. Maybe we can all keep an eye out for the magazine and maybe we can find an answer. There was an article in the Sept 1 issue that discussed a lady that had a thryoid problem and how she continued until she found help.
If we are depressed it is because of the fatigue and what we are not able to do-not that depression has caused the fatigue.
ohmigosh! People like me! Everybody either tells me I am a hypochondriac or flat out lazy. I know I should exercise, but i have no willpower whatsoever. I would stop working if it weren't for the fact that I would starve to death. My ideal day is to sit around and do nothing all day long. Does anyone else have an uncontrollable sweet craving all the time? I can't stop with the soda and sweets! How frustrating!
I haven't posted in awhile, but I couldn't pass this thread by.
I have experienced all that and more, so I completely do understand.
However, there are good listening, knowlegeable doctors out there. I changed medical groups and docs, and paid out of pocket until I found the great docs I now have.
If they won't listen in this highly subjective issue, fire them and move on! Don't waste your time with anyone that makes you feel like a fat lazy idiot! They are the idiots. That includes husbands...we need to get mad...let's get down to the anger. That is what will energize us to put a stop to the abuse.
Thyroid imbalance is a real illness. It is not based on feelings or appearances. Ignoring this fact is ABUSE!
Let's get some come backs...like when a girlfriend complains about PMS, sweetly say "oh, why not eat more fruit?" or, "well you certainly don't LOOK like you have PMS!"
(Then act like you don't know what she is talking about when she goes into a rage! LOL) Use whatever lines are thrown at you back on the abusers.
I am sure we can think of some comebacks for docs and boyfriends and husbands and moms, busybodies, and our kids, too.
I finally got my family's attention. I now do what I can, and let the rest slip by...well, stack up is more like it! I have priorities anout which stack I chip away at and when. I do the chipping away when I have the energy and motivation. If I want to sleep through a video I had wanted to watch, I do. If I rented one and was too tired to watch it, I keep it another day.
If we let ourselves be where we are really at, not brushing our hair or getting dressed, others begin to notice.
If you are so sick you feel like dying, say THAT to the doc. You will get the attention. Then when you do, tell him staight out you need for him/her to LISTEN.
Don't expalin how bad you feel, list your symptoms.
If they do not listen, move on! leave bad docs, and visit someone for a few days leaving hubbie to deal with the kids and pets, and kids to deal with dad and dirty laundry.
I really think we females tend to try to be all and do all, hiding behind nice clothes and make up. Wear your sweats and take off the make-up, BUT smile. You will look more like what you feel, but that you are dealing with it valiantly! LOL It is true!
You can always go back to looking nice later on, after everyone gets the point!
tree frog, you have some great points there! I did let my husband and son know exactly how I feel last Sunday. It was a really bad day for me (so soooo tired)so I just did what I felt like doing-NOTHING! I lay on the couch all day long. I think my husband got the point. He said to me "Man, you really MUST be sick". I said "What gave you THAT idea?". LOL!!! Now he hasn't been asking when I'm going back to work. I think he knows I can't just yet. As for the rest of them (sister, mother-in-law (oh that's a whole story in itself!) etc... I think I'll just stay away from them as much as possible to avoid getting myself so upset. But if they do p*** me off, I'll not hesitate to use a day's energy on my big mouth! lol AND... I'll give them 40 lashes with a wet noodle. That'll teach them not to mess with a chick whose hormones are out of whack!
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Hi, I just want to say my thyroid stopped working about 25 years ago. I started on Armour and have felt fine for many years. Recently I had a problem had felt really bad, but I changed my diet, thanks to information I got on this board. When my test came back my Dr added cytomel to my Armour. I am feeling so much better after 3 weeks. I guess I am very luck to have had Dr's who treated me for this disorder. I hope you can find the correct combination of meds so you can feel better. I thought this was a treatable disease so I am very concerned to hear about so many of you who are not finding solutions.