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Old 09-12-2004, 11:57 AM   #1
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levels TSH versus symptoms

Wondering at what TSH levels the muscle cramps subside, as well as hair loss
brain fog,nausea, and constipation.
I know everyone is different however it would be encouraging to
graph the replys. Also My endo told me that sometimes a TSH reading may be slightly higher when antibodies are involved.He said it can happen , however
not often. suem

 
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Re: levels TSH versus symptoms

TSH has nothing to do with symptoms. It's a pituitary hormone, and its only function is to prod the thyroid gland into thyroid hormone production.
Symptoms are related to the lack of thyroid hormones.
For most people, symptoms don't start to subside until the blood levels of the free Ts approach the middle of their lab ranges. Optimal levels are considered to be in the upper third of those ranges.

Antibodies are associated with most cases of hypoT, and if you read here long enough, you'll see many, many cases of people with "normal" in-range TSH plus high titres of antibodies. Their doctors refuse to treat them until that TSH is above-range. I've read a good deal about thyroid ABs and have never seen that TSH is higher because of them. On the contrary, TSH associated with autoimmune hypoT often doesn't elevate at all until the illness is very advanced.

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Re: levels TSH versus symptoms

Thank You Midwest for your reply. Since my t3 and t4 are in range, then
your information is encouraging. Sorry if I offended you with my info
however it did come from a endo. suem

 
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Re: levels TSH versus symptoms

Sue, are your numbers w/in the range but close to the lower end? Most hypo's feel better when their FTs are in the upper 3rd.

Sue, you'll find that when it comes to treating hypothyroidism endos are just as 'in the dark' as general practitioners, they are using outdated labe ranges and tend to not listen to their patients much. Then again, perhaps you wont - that would be much better as it's a frustrating situtation to endure.

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Re: levels TSH versus symptoms

Nat. Lower third.on FreeT4. Thank you for caring and the info.
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Re: levels TSH versus symptoms

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Sorry if I offended you with my info
however it did come from a endo.
Oh my gosh, perish the thought. Never occurred to me to take offense. But we here would like you to be aware that even endos are not always right about thyroid info. My own former one told me on our first consultation that my symptoms would go away with Synthroid treatment. The Synthroid didn't agree with me at all and I had to stop taking it. Because she had no other options that she was willing to do for treatment, rather than admit she'd failed, she then told me the symptoms weren't from my thyroid. Many others here have had far worse experiences with endos.
Simply having a medical degree doesn't make any of them superdoctors. They're human and can be as wrong as you or I.

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...Since my t3 and t4 are in range, then
your information is encouraging.
I hope he is measuring your FREE T4/T3. Total T4 and T3 are not useful for monitoring dosage.

 
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Re: levels TSH versus symptoms

Sue, my FT4 is also in the lower third of the ''normal" range and my TSH is considered "normal" by my lab range (4.3), but I am HypoT and I do not feel well.

As Midwest said, make sure those are Free T numbers and not just T4 & T3. Better yet, post your numbers with the range from the lab.

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