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Old 11-05-2005, 07:03 AM   #1
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Cortisol level and T3

I have read that if you have adrenal insufficiency that you should not take T3 supplements. My a.m. cortisol level is 9, and the range is 4 to 19. anyone has experience with this

 
Old 11-05-2005, 07:13 AM   #2
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

Yes, my level is lower that. We are still trying to figure out what is going on.
I am very sensitive to t3 and could not handle it in armour and others.
I now take 5mg cytomel and 75 levoxyl and it is working fine. Doc had me try to up the cytomel and I couldn't handle it.
Hope that helps.

 
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Old 11-05-2005, 12:36 PM   #3
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

I am on 137.5mg synthroid (I have no thyroid) and .5 cytomel twice daily. I started the cytomel 8 days ago. My doctor said that EVERYONE he puts on cytomel feels very very good for the first 2 weeks but it is after that that is the true test. It takes me 3 hrs to get to sleep lately. I had a little trouble sleeping twice during the week before I started cytomel so I am trying to figure out if it is the cytomel preventing me from sleeping. I dont feel very very good like he said everyone does so I am trying to figure out if I need to stop the cytomel. I do know my adrenals are low- regardless of whether I am in the range for cortisol. 9 yrs ago a naturopathic doctor told me so plus it was reaffirmed last week by an irodologist. My anxiety /panic level is a little worse but that may be mostly because I have not been sleeping well. I do know that you must be sleeping by 10 pm everynight because your adrenal gland rests and rejuvenates itself every night from 10pm to 2am. If you are awake, it wont do its work. So anyway, I really am trying to figure out if I need to get off the cytomel.

 
Old 11-05-2005, 01:32 PM   #4
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

I have increased anxiety, I just don't know where it is coming from.
My new dr has told me to split the cytomel in half and take it twice daily.
I know that when I tried to take the larger dose I really felt weird.
I personally don't like t3 for myself, but I can't stay awake without it.
With the t3 I am able to stay awake in my zombie like state and somehow function.
So,I am not sure in my case if it is the t3,adrenals,GH or one of the many other wonderful things wrong in my body, that is causing anxiety.
What other symptoms are leading you to think adrenals are low?

 
Old 11-06-2005, 07:44 PM   #5
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

I stopped the T3 yesterday and I was able to go to sleep last night. I would have increased anxiety immediately after taking it the first 3 days (to the point of completely losing it) and it took 4 hrs to go to sleep. I only took it for 8 days. I took it at 6:30 am and then around 4pm. I had read the warnings before starting the T3 that if your adrenals are low, you will have increased anxiety on it. I was determined to give it a fair chance but thank God I got off. I really believe that the T3 is not healthy at all for us. Low adrenal symtoms are when you cannot handle stress- you cannot handle any type of stress. I cannot handle unnatural chemical smells (cannot even handle many essential oils), loud noise, glare from the sun etc. Low cortisol means you dont metabolize carbohydrates well nor regulation of blood sugar. I completely lose it when I eat tons of things especially chocolate, sugar (even natural honey, low sugar fruit like berries or green apples), refined carbs. ( cannot even have 1 organic cookie from the health food store). Their are very few things I can eat at health food stores too. Aldosterone (another adrenal hormone)- maintain salt and water balance in the body so when it is low, bloating. Under extreme stress or prolonged stress (I had both), large amounts of cortisol are released, which can lead to a host of health problems. Reduced adre nal function symptoms are weakness, lethargy (extreme tiredness), dizziness, headaches, memory problems, food cravings, allergies, and blood sugar disorders. In very extreme cases (Addisons disease) symptoms are loss of appetite, fainting, low blood pressure, nausea, diarrhea, depression, craving for salty foods, moodiness, decrease in boy hair and inability to cope with stress, feeling of coldness (this may be different when the person also has thyroid problems). Cortisone drugs are very bad for the adrenal gland. many people take those for asthma or arthritis. I take Garden of Life Living Multi Vitamin. I dont know if you ever heard of them but Garden of Life products are AWESOME. I have to take 9 per day (It made a HUGE difference in how I felt when I went from 6 to 9). I felt dramatically better when I started taking them a few months ago. I HIGHLY recommend it. Search online to get it cheaper- unless you have a reasonably priced health food store in town. It is loaded with vitamins, minerals, enzymes, selenium (great for thyroid), sea vegetables and they are all WHOLE food. You also need a very good pharmaceutical grade Stress formula or B complex WITHOUT yeast. Believe me, I learned the hard way. That is imperative for the adrenal gland. I think you should nutrients to help your body so you will naturally have more energy. I think for us, the T3 is bad- at least until we get our adrenal glands working much better- which will probably take 2 or 3 years. Good luck. let me know how it goes.

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Re: Cortisol level and T3

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I stopped the T3 yesterday and I was able to go to sleep last night. I would have increased anxiety immediately after taking it the first 3 days (to the point of completely losing it) and it took 4 hrs to go to sleep. I only took it for 8 days. I took it at 6:30 am and then around 4pm. I had read the warnings before starting the T3 that if your adrenals are low, you will have increased anxiety on it. I was determined to give it a fair chance but thank God I got off. I really believe that the T3 is not healthy at all for us. Low adrenal symtoms are when you cannot handle stress- you cannot handle any type of stress. I cannot handle unnatural chemical smells (cannot even handle many essential oils), loud noise, glare from the sun etc. Low cortisol means you dont metabolize carbohydrates well nor regulation of blood sugar. I completely lose it when I eat tons of things especially chocolate, sugar (even natural honey, low sugar fruit like berries or green apples), refined carbs. ( cannot even have 1 organic cookie from the health food store). Their are very few things I can eat at health food stores too. Aldosterone (another adrenal hormone)- maintain salt and water balance in the body so when it is low, bloating. Under extreme stress or prolonged stress (I had both), large amounts of cortisol are released, which can lead to a host of health problems. Reduced adre nal function symptoms are weakness, lethargy (extreme tiredness), dizziness, headaches, memory problems, food cravings, allergies, and blood sugar disorders. In very extreme cases (Addisons disease) symptoms are loss of appetite, fainting, low blood pressure, nausea, diarrhea, depression, craving for salty foods, moodiness, decrease in boy hair and inability to cope with stress, feeling of coldness (this may be different when the person also has thyroid problems). Cortisone drugs are very bad for the adrenal gland. many people take those for asthma or arthritis. I take Garden of Life Living Multi Vitamin. I dont know if you ever heard of them but Garden of Life products are AWESOME. I have to take 9 per day (It made a HUGE difference in how I felt when I went from 6 to 9). I felt dramatically better when I started taking them a few months ago. I HIGHLY recommend it. Search online to get it cheaper- unless you have a reasonably priced health food store in town. It is loaded with vitamins, minerals, enzymes, selenium (great for thyroid), sea vegetables and they are all WHOLE food. You also need a very good pharmaceutical grade Stress formula or B complex WITHOUT yeast. Believe me, I learned the hard way. That is imperative for the adrenal gland. I think you should nutrients to help your body so you will naturally have more energy. I think for us, the T3 is bad- at least until we get our adrenal glands working much better- which will probably take 2 or 3 years. Good luck. let me know how it goes.
hi this is a very interesting thread please can you tell me what this means the doctor said i have to go to an rendo? i have an underactive tthyroid and theese symptoms in your post are the same as the adrenalin thing the doc said i have abnormal results for cortisone and something to do with my glands im starting to feel better as my meds are upping but im aneamic with very heavy periods and bad hair loss etc any advice would be really really appreciated love from katpurs

 
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

My Cortisol level was 10, I was told this was normal, is it?
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

I got a "10" on an a.m. fasting cortisol (that part is impt) & was told it was borderline.

Tried 5/2.5 mg hydrocortisone (Cortef) but had problems tolerating. It did however allow me to tolerate Cytomel somewhat. But I discontinued the HC & eventually the Cytomel (even 2.5 mcg was giving me side effects -- rapid heartbeat & anxiety).

I've recently tried IsoCort but again had trouble tolerating. Will be trying extended release T3 soon ...

 
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I got a "10" on an a.m. fasting cortisol (that part is impt) & was told it was borderline.

Tried 5/2.5 mg hydrocortisone (Cortef) but had problems tolerating. It did however allow me to tolerate Cytomel somewhat. But I discontinued the HC & eventually the Cytomel (even 2.5 mcg was giving me side effects -- rapid heartbeat & anxiety).

I've recently tried IsoCort but again had trouble tolerating. Will be trying extended release T3 soon ...
oh elmhar this is frustrating for you i hope you sort it in the end
im on 25 of levo at the mo and rising to 50 in next week,
so is it hard to tolerate and take cortisone drugs what if you really need them i hope heart palps arnt a side effect i get them off my meds anyway i see the symptoms of this are the same as thyroid no wonder ive been tired please tell me some people have hair loss from this as well as thyroids if so it would explain why its been so bad love from katpurs thankyou elmhar i.s.h.t.!!!!!! for infinity squared lol

 
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

Hi- I see you are from England. I dont know what a rendo is. T3 in the way of cytomel is what causes extreme anxiety. Time released (we have to get a compound pharmacist to make it) T3 taken twice daily is what works. When your thyroid is underactive, your adrenal and female/male hormones are usually off too. Find a pharmacist or practicioner who specializes in natural hormone replacement therapy that does saliva testing. The following hormones were off for me: pituatary, adrenal corisol, adrenal medula, thymus, hypythalmus, female (needed progesterone, DHEA, etc), testosterone (but I am a female) and thyroid and I am probably forgetting something. Even though I had been going to a very smart and caring endocrinologist for my thyroid, the hormonal testing showed that my thyroid was still severely insufficient (i went on kelp, time released T3 etc.)

 
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Hi- I see you are from England. I dont know what a rendo is. T3 in the way of cytomel is what causes extreme anxiety. Time released (we have to get a compound pharmacist to make it) T3 taken twice daily is what works. When your thyroid is underactive, your adrenal and female/male hormones are usually off too. Find a pharmacist or practicioner who specializes in natural hormone replacement therapy that does saliva testing. The following hormones were off for me: pituatary, adrenal corisol, adrenal medula, thymus, hypythalmus, female (needed progesterone, DHEA, etc), testosterone (but I am a female) and thyroid and I am probably forgetting something. Even though I had been going to a very smart and caring endocrinologist for my thyroid, the hormonal testing showed that my thyroid was still severely insufficient (i went on kelp, time released T3 etc.)
thats helped my periods are very heavy is that one of your symtoms and i have bad hair loss and bad thyroid levels im scared love from katpursxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 
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Re: Cortisol level and T3

i dont have heavy menses and I dont have hair loss at this time.
Heavy menses is definately hormonal. I looked up hair loss for you in one of my research books and found that hair loss is caused by heredity, hormones and/or aging. It may also be an immune system response. Get to a natural hormone specialist as soon as possible. I have a fantastic one here in the states. And remember, you are body, mind and spirit. You have to take care of all three.

 
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thats helped my periods are very heavy is that one of your symtoms and i have bad hair loss and bad thyroid levels im scared love from katpursxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Your hair loss is probably caused by your hypothyroidism and your lack of iron " i think you had posted your iron was low " or either your thyroid meds..Thyroid meds have been known to cause some hairloss in some people as well... Hope you to get to feeling better..
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Hi- I see you are from England. I dont know what a rendo is. T3 in the way of cytomel is what causes extreme anxiety. Time released (we have to get a compound pharmacist to make it) T3 taken twice daily is what works. When your thyroid is underactive, your adrenal and female/male hormones are usually off too. Find a pharmacist or practicioner who specializes in natural hormone replacement therapy that does saliva testing. The following hormones were off for me: pituatary, adrenal corisol, adrenal medula, thymus, hypythalmus, female (needed progesterone, DHEA, etc), testosterone (but I am a female) and thyroid and I am probably forgetting something. Even though I had been going to a very smart and caring endocrinologist for my thyroid, the hormonal testing showed that my thyroid was still severely insufficient (i went on kelp, time released T3 etc.)
sorry silly me an endo lol xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 
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i dont have heavy menses and I dont have hair loss at this time.
Heavy menses is definately hormonal. I looked up hair loss for you in one of my research books and found that hair loss is caused by heredity, hormones and/or aging. It may also be an immune system response. Get to a natural hormone specialist as soon as possible. I have a fantastic one here in the states. And remember, you are body, mind and spirit. You have to take care of all three.
help where do i start looking in england actually my hair started to grow back a little when i first started levo i had tio stop cos of palps but ive started again on 25 levo and it hasnt had the samre result unfortinatly!!! but im in a worse place this time with worse levels so as i rise im hoping it helprs again!!!!! thankyou so much for your post its helped but where do you think i should start looking for that alternative medicine lots of love from katpursxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 
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