It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....



Thyroid Disorders Message Board
Post New Thread   Closed Thread
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-01-2008, 08:44 PM   #16
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: US
Posts: 1,467
monkey5 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Helen, not sure if i did post i was taking the Lyrica it hasn't been that long.
Eagle i wondered this myself as they had my thyoid meds to high for like a year. I have thought about getting tested for the diabetes as it runs down the line as well! I will let you know whats up when i see the Dr. or chat!
Mel

 
Old 09-02-2008, 03:37 AM   #17
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: greasy rock, tn
Posts: 3,340
accessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Yep. They talked. That was a little more amusing than the men in 3 piece suits that used to land their spaceship in the pasture and put blue stuff in the creeks. OMG! Them thar cricks run down by the house. You don't think that's what's wrong with me, do ya???

Lyrica's an anticonvulsant. Didn't do too good at stopping seizures but they found it's fantastic for masking neuropathic pain. It's approved for treatment of diabetic neuropathy, post-herpatic neuralgia and recently, fibromyalgia. I don't recall seeing sweating as a side effect but that wasn't exactly what I was looking up.

You're correct. Untreated thyroid disorders can lead to diabetes. Lot's of research to back it up. If you don't believe it, look at me. No risk factors whatsoever. Just long term untreated hyperthyroidism. Untreated hypothyroidism can lead to insulin resistance too.

I'm not exactly sure whether my sweating would be called profuse. When I look at other people, it appears that it might be considered normal??? I have a weird thermostat. Some people accuse me of being part reptile. Prior to this summer, you could put me in an oven and I'd be quite comfortable. Hardly shed a drop of sweat. If you chill me, my hands, feet and crotch pour water. Who knows? All I know is this is different for me.

Monkey, if the diabetes runs down the line, it's important to keep an eye on it. Do let us know what the doc has to say. I'll be rooting for ya.

 
Sponsors Lightbulb
   
Old 09-02-2008, 06:27 AM   #18
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oak Ridge
Posts: 6,749
mkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Just thought I would share the FDA's documented Lyrica treatment group adverse reaction findings:
dizziness, somnolence, ataxia, confusion, asthenia, abnormal thinking, blurred vision, incoordination, weight gain, dry mouth, and peripheral edema.

Now these findings were over a small clinical trial set of 5000.. so if it is a rarer subset or a side effect as a result of thyroid/blood sugar issues then it may not have been caught. Extreme body chemistry cases.. like thyroid dysfunctional patients are not included in many of the base clinical trial groups.

MG
__________________
If we learn by our mistakes, I am working on one hell of an education.

 
Old 09-03-2008, 03:11 AM   #19
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: greasy rock, tn
Posts: 3,340
accessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

I had mostly been interested in the ataxia part. Keep wondering if after having not suffered a single listed side effect since the get go for almost a year, when they say side effects usually subside with continued use, whether the opposite could be true and the same side effects could occur with continued use. So I look it up to see if I can find anything to back that up. What do I find? They're starting to find that Lyrica can be used to treat ataxia.

I tried to get off the stuff in march. I thought I was ready and I wanted to be rid of it. With the gp's approval, the gradual withdrawal started. Within a week of cutting back by one a day, I was back on his doorstep begging for a refill. I'm just not sure where to go with this one. There's a very slight chance the drug might be a problem but there's no comfortable way to test the theory.

 
Old 09-03-2008, 05:54 AM   #20
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oak Ridge
Posts: 6,749
mkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Any new drug is difficult to test and get data on. Pity we aren't more like mice, then we would know for sure.. but if we were more like mice and only lived 3 years.. would we care? Hummm? I could get into running in the old hamster wheel and ball. I always thought they looked fun. Oops! Tangent. *pauses to chase my tail briefly* Okay, almost awake. MORE CAFFEINE! NEED MORE! I need a caffeine IV this morning. UGH!

Side effects can develope and increase or decrease in severity at any time. There is no set rule on side effects. When dealing with your body it is an ever changing chemical factory. Like an allergy to antibiotics or food it could take one or two dosings or years to develop an intolerance or allergic response. The degree and speed that such happens directly stems from our own immune system and tolerance for the foriegn substance. In the case of trying to determine if the symptoms are a result of the drug you need to know how/if your were suffering before and how/if it changed after the fact. It can take as long as a six month break from a medication to allow your immune system to reset and your body to loose any built up tolerances. Biochemistry and how each human reacts is highly experimental . You can not get a solid basis set because each human.. barring identical twins have significant differences in their body chemistry. Heck just males versus females.. and the age at which they are evaluated can cause dramatic fluxes in the body's demands and needs. Let us know what you figure out. I am off to see the wizard...

MG
__________________
If we learn by our mistakes, I am working on one hell of an education.

 
Old 09-03-2008, 08:26 AM   #21
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: US
Posts: 1,467
monkey5 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

mkgbrook, yes i totally agree about these meds! I am still waiting for the thyroid dr. to ithier send me a blood draw sheet for my levels. And or a phone saying i shouldn't need one and look at other factors as well. And i am truly wondering if it's my Lyrica causing the sweating and a recent heache. Although i have been sick and hink i might have a sinus infection i am going in the am. to get that checked because i have tried everything, felt good for a day and then bam hit me again double whammy i hate that! So till till next time i will keep you all update! Oh and mk, keep on top of things as well!
Helen, how's school?
Love, Mel

 
Old 09-06-2008, 09:09 AM   #22
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: greasy rock, tn
Posts: 3,340
accessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Sorry. Took off running. Mom had another small stroke from a bp spike on wednesday and I've spent the last couple days in icu at the trauma center 2 1/2 hours away. They actually got me permission to stay in the room with her the entire time since I know how to care for her. I had to drive and got there at 2am. Mom got to fly. They caught it immediately this time and got the bp under control and the bleeding stopped with only minimal damage. She's back home now. I got in last night and dropped like a rock. I feel like I take one step forward and then 10 back. I feel like hell.

Did you get your sinuses checked out? I have a bit of trouble with mine now and then but this year's pollen has been really bad and I've gone for weeks sometimes with that nagging sinus headache.

School's still fun. For the first time in my life, I'm actually enjoying studying. I'm a little behind right now though and have to cram today so I can take an exam by midnight tonight. Wednesday and friday were supposed to be my study days. I hope I can do it.

 
Old 09-08-2008, 05:52 PM   #23
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: US
Posts: 1,467
monkey5 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Helen, i know what you mean! I hope mom is okay and sorry to hear? I still havent heard back from the dr.s office, go figure but i'm dealing pretty well. Has the sinuses checked out, yup infection = antibiotic. I need another pill like a whole in my head I thought the dr. would send me a lab slip maybe i need to call back again? I get so tired of all these appt.s ect. My biggest problem is i need to get my head straight and i'm having really bad tension headaches. I find since i've gotten older i keep slipping back into down mode and not sure if it's the thyroid playing with me ugh! Now i'm off having to have a reffereal for a podiatrist for my foot that started after my back pain argh. Oh and i got a slip to take to get a blood pressure cup through my ins. They say i should keep track of it but yet not worry yeah right ! Well i hope your thyroid levels are okay? It makes it bad when you have alot of stress!
Love, Monkey

 
Old 09-09-2008, 04:41 AM   #24
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: greasy rock, tn
Posts: 3,340
accessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB Useraccessn12 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Yeah, mom's ok. We had another run to the er last evening though. The bp spiked again. They had the chopper hovering waiting for the results of the ct but it came back fine, they got the bp down and sent her home. Phew.

How long since you contacted the doc's office? Sometimes they forget to get back to you. So it was a sinus infection? You don't think that's what's been causing the "tension" headaches, do you? I hate antibiotics. The gp gave me a script for doxy for the pustular psoriasis cause it's known to have some potent anti inflammatory effects but I said no thanks. I'd rather have the creeping crud than spend the next couple months with the runs. The cream that I asked for instead seems to be working pretty well though. I'll save the antibiotics for infections when I have no choice.

I'd say part of it's the thyroid playing you up. It's hard to get your head on straight when your levels aren't right. Spending all that time worrying about trying to get your levels right doesn't help either. Work on the thyroid and give it some time. I really doubt it's old age creeping up on you even though it might feel like it. Hell, I'm 49. I'm not old. I just feel ill sometimes.

Actually everyone should keep track of their bp. It's one of those things that doesn't cause any symptoms and can creep up on you without your ever knowing. Your doc's right. Don't worry about it. Think of it as a preventive measure like brushing your teeth. I'll have to remember when my cuff wears out to get a script. I keep forgetting the insurance will pay for stuff like that.

Well I must run. I'm a little behind this morn and it looks like I'm going to be late for work if I don't scurry. Can't have the boss getting upset with me. ooops! I am the boss. I think I'll take my time.

later.......................

 
Old 09-09-2008, 05:55 AM   #25
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Oak Ridge
Posts: 6,749
mkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB Usermkgbrook HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

I have been the sinus infection queen my whole life. I used to stay on antibiotics 9 months of the year with the buggers. Now two sinus surgeries and a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy later.. I may get 2 a year. I still have to fight them off using Nasal oils and saline rinses.. but now I actually have minimal nasal membranes and added holes in my head all is better.

Low thyroid or imbalanced thyroid levels appear to have a link to migraines and sinus trouble. If you have allergies or a sensitivity to pollutants this can be compounded. A rip roaring sinus infection would give you classic and chronic tension headaches. you would know it was the sinus infection is takinga decongestant makes it go away. What antibiotic did they give you? I hate when the yank your chain and only give you a token dose of a non-dark cavity fighting antibiotic. You need a minimum of 14 days of a dark cavity anti-biotic. The premos are any in the Cillan family and cephalosporins.. cousins to the cillans. It has something to do with their mold properties maybe? Not sure why, but these antibiotics have the strongest presence in dark cavities.. like your sinuses. My favorite was Suprax.. until the discontinued it before it could go generic. *grumble, mutter, blah* I hate the tricks of the drug companies when it comes to pattent extentions and such.

Hopefully the antibiotics will set you straight in 48 - 72 hours.. keep taking them after the pressure lifts.. finish the buggers off. Sinus infections have a nasty habit of retreating into the ethnoid and rear sinus cavities to hold up and wait for the antibiotics to go away.. then they grow back stronger and nastier than before... if you were only given 5-7 days of an antibiotic, and you begin to have sinus pressure 3-5 days after you have completed your anti-biotics. Call for more anti-biotics... your sinus trouble is coming back.

Good luck on all fronts.. sinus and thyroid.
MG
__________________
If we learn by our mistakes, I am working on one hell of an education.

 
Old 09-09-2008, 08:04 AM   #26
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: US
Posts: 1,467
monkey5 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Hey there you two, you are so helpful! I feel like i need to make a soap opra of my life here in lala land lol. I guess i will have to call that stinking specialist back grr. It weird though they have never ignored me. I think they like me ha! The regular pc gave me amoxacillin(not my best choice) I am still having a headache though and it stinks. Of course with this thyroid and anything you always get every dr.s opinion. Like I asked my dr. if the thyroid level being so high for so long ect. and then lower it would this cause headaches, but she said yes and no and usually not the symptoms i'm having with the area of pain /pressure. I might have to call for more antibiotics i am still having alot of pressure on day 5 and alot of clearness. I also stuggle with these just not in a long time! Oh and when the dr. massaged ,my shoulders it felt so good So maybe i am under more stress than i think, dah i have five boys three of em teens, who would be stressed I am glad Helen that it was a false alarm with mom! Take care, and i will keep you updated!
Monkey

 
Old 09-09-2008, 08:23 PM   #27
Newbie
(female)
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 9
tbren HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Hi. I am new to the thread. It sounded like you are having headaches from changing doses. I have been on 0.175 for 13 years. They are lowering my doses and I am having migraines and different kinds of headaches so bad, I can hardly stand it. Can you tell me a little about your dose and what you started at and what you dropped to?
tbren1

 
Old 09-10-2008, 06:22 AM   #28
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: US
Posts: 1,467
monkey5 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

tbren1, I had a Thyroidectomy over a year ago and I started at like I think it was 75mcg-100 and i started getting really sick and then i finally went to the ER and my potassium was really low and they checked my levels and said that i wasn't getting enough meds, so they increased it to like 125 and i was on that dose for about 6-12 months and then i started feeling blah ect. again so i got back into the specialist and he did labs and said i was getting too much so they decrease it to 112 and then meanwhile waiting for my lab results they decreased it back down to a 100, and now since a month almost i have been having these headaches. It's kinda confusing but you could go over the thyroid posts and foolow my posts to get a better idea!( i know what you mean about the headaches, i don't even want to think most days ugh)
monkey

 
Old 09-11-2008, 05:54 AM   #29
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: US
Posts: 1,467
monkey5 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Update here. The office called me back yesterday and said stay at the dose i'm on and check in six months. And then i forgot to ask so i am waiting for another call back in seeing wht they say about this causing my headaches. Also my dr. called me back because i called them about the headaches and she thinks thier from my neck and spasms ect. so they did get me set up for PT for my neck and back. Shes also calling in a scripts for something. So between this thyroid dr. and my dr. i should hopefully get this straight, i hope! Take care, Monkey

 
Old 09-11-2008, 07:36 PM   #30
Newbie
(female)
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: st louis missouri
Posts: 7
tbren1 HB User
Re: I knew it was too good to be true.......

Monkey 5,
I am 39 and feel horrible too. My primary keeps saying its tension headaches. I did see a new endo today and he said he wanted to drop me super slow and let him know when my first sign of symptoms were so we could figure it out. I am still leary. I do not know what to do. I am back on my original dose of 0.175 and am still having headaches. Which I never had headaches before. I am taking Prozac with it and thought maybe this was causing the headaches. I tried stopping it but results were same. I am so confused and frustrated. The headaches hurt so bad, I can't even play with my two boys. I feel like I can't even be a mom to them right now. Can you please tell me what helps you get through the day and how to stay strong when dealing with this. I keep on praying everyday that it will get better than the previous day but I get weak sometimes.

Hope you are hanging in there. tbren1

 
Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
I knew it was bad...but this bad?? thewayiwas Weight Loss 4 07-10-2008 02:33 PM
I kind of knew this would happen.... Mileena42 Relationship Health 4 10-02-2007 05:27 PM
How many of you always knew nellie46 Infertility 15 08-11-2007 11:41 AM
I went and did what I knew I shouldn't ChaosAD Depression 37 04-26-2007 05:32 AM
Well...I knew it would come to this! dfroman1166 Addiction & Recovery 6 03-15-2007 12:13 PM




Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Sign Up Today!

Ask our community of thousands of members your health questions, and learn from others experiences. Join the conversation!

I want my free account

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:42 PM.



Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.comô
Terms of Use © 1998-2014 HealthBoards.comô All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!