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Old 06-23-2009, 04:36 AM   #1
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I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

Apparently my high levels of cortisol are causing more bone loss. My dexy scans were lower this year. I'm also contributing it to not being able to exercise for a year due to my thyroid causing extreme fatigue. My problem is I can't take any steroids or natural herbs that are supposed to lower cortisol. The herbs also lowered my blood sugar to the point that I was even more exhausted and felt nauseous all day. I recently took a short run of prednisone for a sinus infection, and that either caused or triggered acid reflux so bad I was having severe asthma problems and couldn't breathe. So I'm not sure what to do. I'm sure my endo won't believe me since they only test for Addisons and Cushings and they don't go by the saliva tests, which is what I had earlier this year. It showed my cortisol was way too high in the morning and was only at normal levels for one hour out of the day (between 4-5), the rest of the day and night it was elevated.

 
Old 06-24-2009, 10:55 AM   #2
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

There is a suppliment called Phosphatidylserine (PS) that is supposed to help lower cortisol levels. * Disallowed website and related information removed by hb-mod, moderator * the recommended dose is 300-1000 md at bedtime to lower excess nighttime cortisol levels. I presume you can take it in the morning as well for your high morning level. PS is derived from soy so you will want to limit any other soy intake.

Also Zinc 25mg or higher is supposed to lower cortisol.

I've got sky-high nighttime cortisol levels and plan to try the supplimentation myself to see how it works.

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Old 06-25-2009, 06:42 AM   #3
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

I tried Phosphatidylserine and it lowered my blood glucose to the point that I was dizzy and extremely fatigued. For some reason they think that high cortisol automatically means high blood sugar. In my case, being hypoglycemic, these supplements make my blood sugar too low, so I feel sick.

I'll try the zinc though. I've also been reading how high amounts of vitamin C can lower cortisol.

 
Old 06-25-2009, 08:00 AM   #4
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

I just came from seeing a hormone specialist who confirmed Adrenal Fatigue. I was also switched up on my thyroid meds, off .088 Synthroid and this morning started Thyroid 30x3 plus Cortef 2.5x4, however I never received the patient knowledge sheets, so I won't start that til I get the info. Progesterone creme is also going to the regime.

For 8 days I have also Phos....x2 at bed, along with Adrenal PX Balance x2 and Metabolic Nutrition. 2 mornings ago was the first time in a long time I woke early, kinda refreshed, and didn't have a nap.

I was told our fertility issues was most likely due to thyroid (which I already knew), and the AF was caused by the RAI (that I didn't know).

I'm very excited to get feeling better, but I'm sad for you with your inability to take Cortef.

The Adrenal Balance I take consists of;
Eleuthero root
Hawthorn Berry
Rosehip
Alfalfa herb
Sarsaperilla root
Vitamin C
Perhaps this stuff would help you.

tup

 
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

Yes, I'm somewhat confused with how to deal with the high cortisol levels myself. It's actually simpler to deal with low levels!

Tigger, are you also on thyroid hormones and have they helped your high cortisol levels? I was hoping that once I got the thyroid issues properly under control then I wouldn't be putting stress on my adrenals and they would calm down. I am planning to retest my cortisol to see how things are once I've been on the desiccated thyroid for a while.

I've also been reading up on estrogen dominance. I do have to take estrogen (I take it unopposed since I'm post hysterectomy) for continuous hot flashes but maybe I should look into the progesterone cream as well. This hormone stuff is mucho confusing!

 
Old 06-25-2009, 11:03 AM   #6
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

I am taking Synthroid 88mcg, but I don't think it's enough. I've been on that dose for 6 weeks now and I still have extreme fatigue and my neck still feels swollen. I've always read that until you have your adrenals balanced, your thyroid meds won't work properly, so I don't know if getting my thyroid on the right track will finally help or not. If I can ever get enough energy to exercise again, I'm sure that will help lower my cortisol.

Since my insurance doesn't seem to want to pay for the saliva test ($128), I don't know how soon I'll be able to get tested again.

 
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

With my situation, I was explained that my high output of cortisol at night was most likely due to the lows for the other 3 periods. This high output impacts my REM sleep, thus NEVER feeling refreshed from sleep no matter how much I get.

For Tigger...
I'd been on Synthroid .088 for close to 5 years, and just this morning started dissicated thyroid with T4, as he suspected conversion issues. We'll see how it goes.

For mcaimless...
Yes hormone issues are tricky...though I am learning a lot. Apparently, even though my Estrodiol is slightly low 3.6 (wants it at about 4 at minimum), I am still considered Estrogen Dominant because my progesterone is also a little on the low side..59(wants it at 100 minimum), but was told Estrodiol would most likely raise slightly once I added the p-creme. I'll start that tomorrow.

Hope any of this has helped somewhat.

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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

Tigger, there is a ZRT saliva cortisol test available through Canary Club for $99 if that helps any. I just ordered one because I suspect the one I got from my Naturopath from Diagnos Tech had a lab error. My nighttime cortisol level was 20x higher than range ... seemed a little extreme to me! I've heard some other complaints about Diagnos Tech-- I'm a little peeved with them myself because I requested another kit to re-do and they never responded.

 
Old 07-15-2009, 04:29 AM   #9
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

Thanks, but I can't afford $99 either. I'm afraid that by not being able to exercise, my cortisol levels have probably become even more elevated. All I find online to help high cortisol is to exercise, change your diet and get more sleep. If I was able to exercise at all or sleep better, I wouldn't have a problem with cortisol!!!

 
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

Tigger, how are you with your thyroid hormone levels? Have you done recent labs? My understanding is that once we get our thyroid properly supplimented then the adrenals will back off excess cortisol production since they won't be so stressed. My last labs show I've still got a ways to go but it's still early days on my Nature-throid (just up to 2 gr now). But the good news is my 6000 iu of D3 and 2000 mcg of B12 is making a difference as my vitamin levels are inching up.

Also you might be stressing your adrenals further by the synthetic T4 only medication you are taking. Perhaps you should consider a switch to Nature-throid or Westhroid so you aren't stressing your adrenals more by having to convert the T4 as the only source of T3 and you will also get other important trace hormones like T1, T2, and calcitonin. I'm very convinced this is a healthier approach to thyroid treatment.

 
Old 07-15-2009, 12:51 PM   #11
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Re: I'm desperate to lower my cortisol

I just had labs done yesterday, so it'll probably be a week before I get the results. I'll post them when I do. I have a feeling my FT3 will be too low, as it was too low the last time I had labs, but I was with a doctor who didn't know how to treat me. So if that's the case, maybe this dr. will switch me to another med. I'm having my Vit. D levels checked too.

Today my main symptoms are fatigue, tired eyes and a hoarse voice.

 
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