It appears you have not yet Signed Up with our community. To Sign Up for free, please click here....



Thyroid Disorders Message Board
Post New Thread   Closed Thread
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-19-2001, 12:15 PM   #1
Senior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 104
blondegal HB User
Soy - can it be??

Lately I've been eating protein bars containing soy - could this be affecting the absorbtion of my levoxyl. My thyroid medication does not seem as stable for some reason. What foods DO affect the absorbtion of my medication - or at least what is the recommendation? My doctor has not been very forthcoming with this kind of information. I know, sounds like I need a new Doc.

 
Old 07-19-2001, 05:25 PM   #2
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Tree Frog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 875
Tree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Docs rarely tell us anything nutritional.

Soy should not be eaten more than three times a week, as it is very high in estrogen and it affects thyroid levels.. Esp, do eat it hours apart from from when you take your med. I take my female hormones 8-12 hours apart from the thyroid med.

 
Sponsors Lightbulb
   
Old 07-19-2001, 07:24 PM   #3
Senior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 104
blondegal HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Thank you so much TF. I have been taking all my meds together in the morning after breakfast - have never been told any differently but now it seems like it might be a problem. Maybe I should switch the thyroid to bedtime and the hormones in the morning - that would go along with what you have said. Usually any med upsets me if taken on an empty stomach but maybe lots of water???? It's weird how my body has changed with adding f/m hormones and different foods. Do you know where I might go to get better nutritional guidelines for hypo patients?

 
Old 07-19-2001, 07:41 PM   #4
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Tree Frog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 875
Tree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Hi,
I have a sensitive tummy too, but I find I can take the thyroid med on an empty stomach just fine. I take my med in the AM because that is the only time my stomach is guaranteed to be empty!

Take it when it works out for you.
I take my supplements when I eat breakfast.

Mary Shoman's Thyroid Forum has many archived articles you can access by doing word or phrase searches.
The book, The Thyroid Solution has much about self-help in regard to supplements, diet, everything about thyroid. It is my best source.

 
Old 07-20-2001, 08:49 AM   #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: TX
Posts: 35
Angie E HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

I take my thyroid at night and my soy based estrogen in the morning. I can remember the thyroid, it's getting in the habit of taking the estrogen in the morning. It's taken me a good 2 months to change the habit, but it seems to be working great. I can take my thyroid on an empty stomach as well without a problem.

 
Old 07-20-2001, 10:00 AM   #6
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1
jkennedy HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Not personal experience, but I know my Mom always took her thyroid medication in the morning because she needed the energy boost to get going. Don't know if this is usual, but the suggestion of taking it at night sort of surprised me.

Jennifer Kennedy

 
Old 07-20-2001, 11:42 AM   #7
Inactive
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: redditch
Posts: 14
AlabamaWhirlyUK HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

well u shuold definatly cut out milk we all no soy is bad 4 ur thyroid but milk is much much worse if u have 2 drink it get it organic. Also meat isn as restricted on groth hormones which are u guess it big fat injections of estrogen. I quit both yet still drink soy milk and ive lost my man breasts and any clingy fat i had b4 and my matabolism has become much more functional. Soys bad yes but its negligable when compared to so called mm healthy milk and lean meats.

 
Old 07-25-2001, 02:18 AM   #8
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Tree Frog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 875
Tree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

soy suppresses thyroid:
<A HREF="http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa083099.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://thyroid.about.com/library/weekly/aa083099.htm</A>

 
Old 07-26-2001, 08:06 PM   #9
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 40
ENUFISENUF HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

This is amazing to me! I know that we've been talking about soy here for a bit now. Today, I found an old vitamin bottle of soy isoflavones. I used to take these by the handful and I'd completely forgotten about it. Here's the kicker ... it was recommended by my doctor at the time! I'm not sure which happened first, but it was about this time that I was first diagnosed with hypothyroidism! (My first clue was fatigue followed by SEVERELY dry skin and other symptoms.) Also, my current doctor suggested soy products which I've already cut back on. Just thought this was interesting. "Coincidence" or not. If nothing else, I am now convinced that these articles are true and hopefully it gives you a firsthand account ...
<IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/wave.gif">

 
Old 07-27-2001, 05:33 PM   #10
Senior Member
(female)
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Posts: 104
blondegal HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

A friend of mine, male, bodybuilder type has always consumed quite a lot of soy. About 3 years ago I noticed his eyes were wide open (like a deer in the headlights), his hands were shaking, he was burning up when everyone else was comfortable and he was losing weight with no explanation for such a drastic reduction. At that time, I insisted he go to a doctor and check it out. He was diagnosed with Graves Disease and soon after that had his thyroid gland destroyed and began taking Levoxyl for his new hypothyroid state thus began the slow road to recovery.

He called me today and mentioned that he feels like crap, tired all the time inspite of good amount of sleep, bloated, no energy, emotions all over the place like a woman with PMS. I mentioned the soy factor to him and what a coincidence it is that he is still consuming a good amount of soy. He also mentioned that his lab tests looked fine that he had done about 3 months ago. I told him what we have talked about here on the board and he is going to try "life without soy" and see if it makes any difference. I have to say that I do believe it was affecting me and feel like a new person since I do not combine the two - Levoxyl and soy products.

In addition, Tree Frog and some others gave me some great suggestions on how to take my medication, when and what to avoid. Another of my problems is the f/m hormones that I take and I have switched so that I take them and levoxyl 10 hours apart. I seem to be getting more benefit from both f/m hornones and tyroid hormone now. Thanks to everyone! I'll add more about my friend's progress if he sees any and keep everyone posted.

Cheers to everyone!

 
Old 08-08-2001, 12:28 PM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 40
ENUFISENUF HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Hi. I haven't had a chance to look at these sites but I wanted to let you guys know that soy is in MANY protein shakes and energy bars. I hadn't realized that until recently. Just an FYI ...
<IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/wave.gif">

 
Old 08-08-2001, 03:36 PM   #12
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Tree Frog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 875
Tree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

It sure is...that is why I use whey, which is milk protein, for shakes. It is sold in bulk at Health Food Stores, in chocolate and vanilla flavors.

 
Old 08-08-2001, 04:05 PM   #13
Veteran
(female)
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 406
bride527 HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

All this talk about soy. I have always had a normal thyroid. I started eating soy everyday. Heard it was good for hormone balance...Well in April during my yearly check up which I passed with flying colors. My doctor told me I was of the boards hypothyroid. I was stunned cuz I felt perfectly fine. My TSH was 182.95. I couldn't belive it neither could he. He thought it was a lab mistake. Six weeks later I was retested and it had gone down to 88.95. I had stopped the soy by then. Five weeks ago it was down to 10.28 still high but greatly improved, again no more soy. I will be retested next week hoping it is down to normal range by then. I really think the soy had something to do with it especially after reading all of these posts..
I have absolutely no symptoms of hypothyroid. I feel fine..What could have caused this big jump? Bride527

 
Old 08-09-2001, 01:58 AM   #14
Senior Veteran
(female)
 
Tree Frog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 875
Tree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB UserTree Frog HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Could have been the soy!

 
Old 08-09-2001, 08:30 AM   #15
Junior Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 40
ENUFISENUF HB User
Re: Soy - can it be??

Holy goodness, Bride527! I can't believe your numbers were that high and you still felt fine! Thank goodness! Did your TSH go back down without any medication at all?! UGH! I thought I was being so good to myself with all these expensive, health food store products and they're SOY! Oh well - at least I've finally figured it out <IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/smile.gif">
Glad your numbers are going back down.
<IMG SRC="http://www.healthboards.com/ubb/wave.gif">

 
Closed Thread

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Board Replies Last Post
Retin-a-micro success stories.... Dom Acne 2 01-18-2003 07:06 AM
Rules of the Board - please read moderator2 Acne 0 06-10-2002 08:06 PM
If you feel suicidal, please read here.... moderator2 Acne 0 05-29-2002 06:54 PM
All members..... moderator2 Acne 2 05-16-2002 08:18 PM
How to use this message board.... moderator2 Acne 0 04-17-2002 07:33 PM




Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Join Our Newsletter

Stay healthy through tips curated by our health experts.

Whoops,

There was a problem adding your email Try again

Thank You

Your email has been added




Top 10 Drugs Discussed on this Board.
(Go to DrugTalk.com for complete list)
Armour
Cytomel
Levothroid
Levoxyl
Potassium
  Synthroid
Tapazole
Unithroid
Xanax
Zoloft




TOP THANKED CONTRIBUTORS



sammy64 (668), midwest1 (631), FinnMaid (313), Reece (227), lisa789 (196), Tree Frog (80), mkgbrook (72), cd37 (56), ladybud (47), Bran'sNana (44)

Site Wide Totals

teteri66 (1182), MSJayhawk (1015), Apollo123 (913), Titchou (862), janewhite1 (823), Gabriel (763), ladybud (760), midwest1 (671), sammy64 (668), BlueSkies14 (607)



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:34 AM.



Site owned and operated by HealthBoards.comô
Terms of Use © 1998-2014 HealthBoards.comô All rights reserved.
Do not copy or redistribute in any form!